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Title: Optimist RNG System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on June 13, 2009, 10:20:34 AM
Preface: This is a strategy specifically designed for the online RNG roulette.  It is a combination of various methods that put together form a powerful attack.  I have had good success with this system, but there is always room for improvement.

Procedure: You will need at least 35 units to play this system for the European Wheel.

Track the last 12 spins using a chip on red/black (or freespin if you have that option).  At this point we employ Iboba's Rolling Street System with two modifications.

Iboba's Street System: After 12 spins,  place a chip on all streets except the street where the number hit twelve spins ago.

So in case of the 35 chips, we place three chips on each street (modification) one chip on zero and one chip on the number that hit 12 spins ago.
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Execution:
Track 12 spins, then begin playing.  **From testing, I have discovered the alogorithm changes every 19 spins, so consider changing casinos or track a new 12 spins after the 18th spin.

On the 13th spin, you can choose to play all six suggested spins (depending on your risk tolerence), or play three or four before tracking the next 12 spins.

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Test #1: Captain Jacks Casino Real Money RNG: Starting balance $70

(Track 12 spins first)

1. #32
2. #20
3. #23
4. #20
5. #5
6. #5
7. #2
8. #31
9. #6
10. #10
11. #26
12. #31

On spin 13 we bet all streets except street 31,32,33 because #32 is the least recent of the last 12 numbers--AND add chips on zero and #32-

13. #26 (win) +1

On spin 14 we bet all streets except street 19,20,21 because #20 is the least recent of the last 12 numbers (from above)--AND add chips on zero and #20-

14. #20 (win) +1

On spin 15 we bet all streets except street 22,23,24 because #23 is the least recent of the last 12 numbers (from above)--AND add chips on zero and #23

15. #27 (win) +1

we continue until we reach the end of spin 18.

16. 10 (win) +1
17. 31 (win) +1
18. 12 (win) +1

--End session--OR change casinos OR track new 12 spins---

New bankroll balance: $76.00

Title: Re: Optimus RNG System
Post by: fqbien on June 13, 2009, 12:05:50 PM
question :
                 -does the number where we place 1 chip is modified when betting ?

                    for example, after 12 spins, number is 10, we bet, but doesn't it, are we changing the number by the new 12th or conserving the 10 ?

sorry for my english and thanks for share
Title: Re: Optimus RNG System
Post by: babs on June 13, 2009, 12:11:59 PM
Sorry, I do not understand this system. Maybe I am just stupid!?  I would love to try this since I can only play online.
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: babs on June 13, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
Interesting. I Played it for a quick game and it appears as if it works. The only problem is that winning is quite slow...
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: celiza427 on June 13, 2009, 03:34:25 PM
Looks good, but what do you do when you lose?  Just take it and start again?  Also, what if the zero comes up during the 12 spins that you are tracking?
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: iboba on June 13, 2009, 04:27:06 PM
Celiza dear,
Zero comes,zero goes...while tracking
Welcome in that stage.
.......................Iboba 8)
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on June 13, 2009, 04:40:40 PM
@ Celiza427: Immediately end session if you lose on the main betting part.
If the zero comes during tracking, that's a two unit loss, omit the zero and continue tracking until you have 12 numbers.

@Babs: "Winning is quite slow"--
The system makes a potential $6/minute...that's $360/hour or $21,000 per day @ 24 hours.
(btw a bot would be ideal for this system.)


Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: rss on June 13, 2009, 04:46:42 PM
Calm down mate!
Test it a lot before making such claims.
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: celiza427 on June 13, 2009, 04:49:10 PM
Well, I know it comes and goes lol, I just mean - if 0 is one of our 1st 6 numbers in the 12 numbers we are tracking there is no street NOT to bet on.
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: fqbien on June 14, 2009, 11:03:46 AM
thanks for your quickly answer via PM.
an other question, i'm playing on no-zero wheel, so, i can just bet 2 chips on the streets and 1 on the last 12th number, right ?

and, why not betting 1 chip on the street where the last 12th number hits ?
it will reduce the risk if you loose.

just and idea..
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on June 14, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
@ Fqbien:
Yes, playing on a no-zero wheel, you can just bet 2 chips (instead of three) on all streets, except the street of the last 12th number & play one chip on each last 12th number.

"Why not betting 1 chip on the street where the last 12th number hits?"-fqbien
If you have 2 chips on every street on a no-zero wheel, you will not win new chips.  It is the same as betting red and black at the same time equal amounts.


Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: fqbien on June 14, 2009, 04:07:58 PM
think you have not correctly see my question.
i'm saying about betting just one unit on the last 12th street insted of betting on the last 12th number, in order to limit the losses.
'cause i don't think that the reach of this system is to hit the 12th number, am i right ?

thanks for your answer and keep the good work ;)
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: Jettonbuster on June 22, 2009, 02:15:04 PM
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on June 13, 2009, 10:20:34 AM
Preface: This is a strategy specifically designed for the online RNG roulette.  It is a combination of various methods that put together form a powerful attack.  I have had good success with this system, but there is always room for improvement.

Procedure: You will need at least 35 units to play this system for the European Wheel.

Track the last 12 spins using a chip on red/black (or freespin if you have that option).  At this point we employ Iboba's Rolling Street System with two modifications.

Iboba's Street System: After 12 spins,  place a chip on all streets except the street where the number hit twelve spins ago.

So in case of the 35 chips, we place three chips on each street (modification) one chip on zero and one chip on the number that hit 12 spins ago.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Execution:
Track 12 spins, then begin playing.  **From testing, I have discovered the alogorithm changes every 19 spins, so consider changing casinos or track a new 12 spins after the 18th spin.

On the 13th spin, you can choose to play all six suggested spins (depending on your risk tolerence), or play three or four before tracking the next 12 spins.

-------------------------------------------
Test #1: Captain Jacks Casino Real Money RNG: Starting balance $70

(Track 12 spins first)

1. #32
2. #20
3. #23
4. #20
5. #5
6. #5
7. #2
8. #31
9. #6
10. #10
11. #26
12. #31

On spin 13 we bet all streets except street 31,32,33 because #32 is the least recent of the last 12 numbers--AND add chips on zero and #32-

13. #26 (win) +1

On spin 14 we bet all streets except street 19,20,21 because #20 is the least recent of the last 12 numbers (from above)--AND add chips on zero and #20-

14. #20 (win) +1

On spin 15 we bet all streets except street 22,23,24 because #23 is the least recent of the last 12 numbers (from above)--AND add chips on zero and #23

15. #27 (win) +1

we continue until we reach the end of spin 18.

16. 10 (win) +1
17. 31 (win) +1
18. 12 (win) +1

--End session--OR change casinos OR track new 12 spins---

New bankroll balance: $76.00




Hello,

For RNG casinos I play not more then 20 minutes sessions with my Roulette Sniper Software and it works OK with proper money management and stop - loss settings.

Profit between 10-20 € per session. If you open multiple accounts 10-20 it will be 300 - 500 € amount/month.
Do try to rotate and play in every online casino every 3th day from last play.


Jettonbuster.
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on June 22, 2009, 02:51:02 PM
Thanks for that, Jettonbuster.  I've been trying to pinpoint the proper exit for RNGs for a while now. :good:
btw, nice to meet you and welcome.
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: betatester on June 22, 2009, 03:30:12 PM
Hello Forumers.
Hello ProofReaders2000.

Nothing like a test with real (past) spins.
I do the work with one month from Hamburg, Table 2, January 2004.

There are 8211 spins in all that month from that table.
I just put them one after the other and count the misses.
I know that this is not "the way" suggested to play this system.

We are called to wait for 12 spins and then bet the next 6 spins. (Or less: 3,4 or 5)
Well the system, played in a continous way lose 8253 units, so a few more than 1 unit x spin played.
457 times we lose 35 units.
7742 times we win 1 unit.

8211-12 first spins= 8099 played spins.
8099/457 = 17,7221 spins (in mean) before a lose bet of 35...

We can say that we lose a little less than the expected !!!
8099 * (35/37) = 7661 expected wins vs. 7742
8099 * (2/37) = 438 expected loses vs. 457

I'm now running a test with a fixed lenght of 18 spins and I will count how many times we crash btw runs of 12 track + 6 bets, and then again...

There will be 7 possible results=
+6 (we hit 6 times and go)
-35 (we lose in the first spin
-34 (we lose in the 2nd spin
-33 (we lose in the 3rd spin
-32 (we lose in the 4rd spin
-31 (we lose in the 5th spin
-30 (we lose in the 6th spin

I will run the test with the same spins (january, table2, Hamburg 2004)

We can know the results in a glance.

Did somebody wait for another % than the "continous" one that I've run yet...?

Not me  8)
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: betatester on June 22, 2009, 04:05:39 PM
Hello, hello... here again...

The same month (january 2004, Hamburg, Table 2)
But in runs of 18 spin...
Track 12, play 6 (if we lose before spin #18, we follow tracking spins until 18, but witouth playing, and then start over again).

8211 spins / 18 = 456 runs + 3 last spins = 8211

In 456 complete runs we find the next:

314 runs gives us a positive result of +6 for a total of 1884 Units.

while in the same time we lose:

31 times -35
32 times -34
19 times -33
15 times -32
26 times -31
19 times -30

For a total of -4656 Units.

The result is -2772 Units.

We have played:
314 * 6= 1884 spins
31 * 1= 31 spins
32 * 2= 64 spins
19 * 3= 57 spins
15 * 4= 60 spins
26 * 5= 130 spins
19 * 6= 114 spins.

For a total of 2340 spins (played non continous) we lose 2772 units... so a little more than in the continous way....
As we have lost 142 times we can see:

2340/142 = one crash each and every 16,4788 spins.

I'm very sorry... and tired of dismounting always the same....

- 2,7 %

:agree:

Thank you very much...
Betatester
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on June 22, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
Hamburg spins---Actually I was thinking after the 12 spin (in which you get the street to not play except the 12th number hit) running it continuously playing every 6th spin.
*Moreover it is imperative the first 12 spins take place for the trigger.

Master plan: $1 unit pers six spins on RNG.  60 minutes $60:  Overnight in a bot (5 hours=$300) per casino.



Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: Jettonbuster on June 22, 2009, 06:12:20 PM
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on June 22, 2009, 02:51:02 PM
Thanks for that, Jettonbuster.  I've been trying to pinpoint the proper exit for RNGs for a while now. :good:
btw, nice to meet you and welcome.


IMPORTANT TO ALL. :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm:

Now another important detail for all on line casino players with RNG...
I know from very "a source" that in fun mode play the numbers don't come from the SAME RNG as the REAL playmode.

I try to explain it to you all, I am not a computer freak but I understand the principle...

Here I go:

All the numbers generated in the real RNG will be stored in a so called temporal file, once you play in funmode this file or partial file will be used as YOUR RNG in fun mode. All systems and tactics you try will give you the "illusion" that you on something good...

HOLY GRAIL perhaps???

Then you go to real mode and baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Play to long it will suck you empty.
Suddenly your system or tactics don't work as in fun mode and you wonder why is that?
What is wrong it worked so well in fun mode!



Be aware all of you.



Jettonbuster. 8)




Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: Jettonbuster on June 22, 2009, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on June 22, 2009, 02:51:02 PM
Thanks for that, Jettonbuster.  I've been trying to pinpoint the proper exit for RNGs for a while now. :good:
btw, nice to meet you and welcome.


No thanks!

See my other comment about RNG (also posted today) about on line casinos FUN mode against REAL mode.

Be aware of it!!!


Jettonbuster.
Title: Re: Optimist RNG System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on June 22, 2009, 07:38:06 PM
I DO think it is important for people to know the hidden danger of RNG gambling games.  I want to put emphasis on the idea that RNGs are also beatable and can provide a good living with a strong system.  Thus the name: Optimist