I notice that 'the other site' has posted some betting advice:
TEST THIS:
LOOK VERY CAREFULLY (you should, its your money and risk) AT WHAT THE TOTAL RISKS OF USING A "BOT" ARE ? AND IF ANY PROFIT MARGIN, AND ALL THAT CAN AND WILL GO WRONG. ALSO ASK..WHAT DOES IT "ACTUALLY" DO...THAT YOU CANNOT DO YOUSELF ????
THE ACID TEST:
BET ANY OR ALL EVEN CHANCE BETS WITH THE SAME UNIT OF MONEY, FOLLOWING THE PENULTIMATE RESULT.
STOP AT 3 UNITS WIN. STOP LOSS AT 6 UNITS. GOOD WIN RATE. !!
THATS IT !.....YOU WILL FIND IT IS EASIER, IT IS MORE PROFITABLE THAN ANY "BOT" EVER ! AND THAT DEAR DELUDED, IS A "FACT" !!!
PS. B & M CASINOS ONLY OF COURSE.
I've tested this, with negative results. Anyone else have any success? I was getting -6 many more times than +3 units.
I havn't tested this yet but looking at the post there is a question that comes to my mind such as:
-PENULTIMATE RESULT(the 2nd to last in a series or event)
-What series do we look at?
Also I might add that the original author stated that we need to develope this bet in order to be successful.So:
-This bet on EC's would seem to be only a part of a series of bets.
-Developing this bet would most likely be done by studying random results?(Really study)
-Look for a bet within that bet?
There is a five to 4 ratio b-e and r-o when you use that bet if your penultimat bet is black bet the even to to go with that, now thats your double edge bet it should take care of the randomness .
Quote from: WARRIOR on June 19, 2009, 01:31:38 PM
There is a five to 4 ratio b-e and r-o when you use that bet if your penultimat bet is black bet the even to to go with that, now thats your double edge bet it should take care of the ranomness .
So lets get this straight shall we!
There are eight each red evens and eight each black odds
So lets just imagine we take those completely out of the game for a minute.
We are left with, as TINO says, ten each of the red odds and black evens PLUS a zero.
It might take care of ranomness but it won't take care of RANDOMNESS.
TINO you need to change your thinking.
New people take note!!!!
Werdna,
If the penultimate result shows its traits more often than expected, then a bet constructed on the table to maximize this occurance would be a successful formula, yes? A successful trap to receive more winners than losers could tip the favor.
werdna i have great results with the explanation above that i gave , execept for the mistake i made on the 2 letters on randomness im not sure what you mean on change my thinking im far from being closed minded. and always respect what you have to say .
QuoteThere is a five to 4 ratio b-e and r-o when you use that bet if your penultimat bet is black bet the even to to go with that, now thats your double edge bet it should take care of the randomness .
Well the way I read this if the penultimate bet is black you would bet all the black plus all the even numbers for a total of 26 numbers. Is this correct?
yes goldfinger thats correct why thats not a good bet.
To me your answer is exactly what the bet says to do. It is a slow grind, but still depends on how we will interpret the randomness.
yes your right the randomness is key .
We have have a saying in the martial arts world, Werdna as you would no the saying is, go with the flow, in my world we say flow with the go so when it comes to thinking you dont , you dont have time to think you react , without thinking second nature ,I am a humble man werdna and always open to be a student in life my thinking is in constent change therefore there is nothing to change for nothting does not exsist.Roulette is the same you have round wheel that can be like the coloseum in Rome when you enter be prepared to fight and remember flow with the go ,let the results give you the bet it can be 1 2 or 3 on the table all the best werdna, your friend Tino
Quote from: WARRIOR on June 19, 2009, 11:35:34 PMlet the results give you the bet
Hi Tino. Unfortunatly i do not agree. It does not work. Either You may strike a good Fluctuation. And the next moment a bad one. The Game is not readable.
Cheers
/Compa
Compa i think your right the game is not readable,its only another tool just like everything else we talk about on the forum ,my thinking is win a little and get out and live to fight another day .all the best compa
Warrior, I had negative results too unfortunately but your point had much sense though - I think we gotta look for the winning variable within this bet - the "owner" of the website (I wouldn't call him in this way but since over here now censorship rules.........) said it once that the bet has many variables but only one is a consistent winning one.
If we find a consistent losing one out of this one and then reverse it...
THE DANGEROUS SEQUENCE: RRBBRRBB....SAME FOR THE OTHERS !!! NOW WORK ON THAT !! KEEP IT SIMPLE. KEEP IT SIMPLE.
NO NOT NEVER OR EVER>>>ANY PROGRESIONS
That b***h sequence was the reason of the negative results
To cope with the RRBBRRBB sequence
Go opposite the penultimate (not follow), if loose 2x to RR or BB then follow last outcome until next loss, then revert to opposite of penultimate.
If strike a Zero then no bet for next 2 spins, then restart
Tested on 300 spins is +12 units
Quote from: Werdna on June 19, 2009, 06:05:46 PM
So lets get this straight shall we!
There are eight each red evens and eight each black odds
So lets just imagine we take those completely out of the game for a minute.
We are left with, as TINO says, ten each of the red odds and black evens PLUS a zero.
It might take care of ranomness but it won't take care of RANDOMNESS.
TINO you need to change your thinking.
New people take note!!!!
Werdna what you say makes perfect sense,
but please tell us,
how do we take care of RANDOMNESS,
Regards,
Davemd.
Quote from: Davemd on June 21, 2009, 10:10:07 AM
Werdna what you say makes perfect sense,
but please tell us,
how do we take care of RANDOMNESS,
Regards,
Davemd.
Quote from: Davemd on June 21, 2009, 10:10:07 AM
Werdna what you say makes perfect sense,
but please tell us,
how do we take care of RANDOMNESS,
Regards,
Davemd.
Quote from: Davemd on June 21, 2009, 10:10:07 AM
Werdna what you say makes perfect sense,
but please tell us,
how do we take care of RANDOMNESS,
Regards,
Davemd.
With randomized procedural attitude.........Iboba
Hi Iboba,
thats what I need to learn then but where do I start,
Davemd.
YUMMY!!! What an Avatar mate...lol. :laugh:
Cheers
/Compa
Not To put more Oil into the fire ... but
here are 2 posts i recieved some weeks back. from someone who claims to have a consistant winning bet .. and no its not charles ... .. hope someone finds something in there .. i didnt ..
but anyway .. here you go ..
I will give you another pointer.
It is a 4 bet combination, not all Even chances but all outside, not streets.
It has at least 1 column involved.
Of course there may be more than one way.
Regards,
Pat
Here's some BIG help for you.
Try this: Make yourself a combination bet that covers a lot of numbers, maybe only 3 or 4 real losing numbers.
How about this? What if you were to bet 2 dozens and 2 columns. Bad?
It seems like bad odds, bet 4 units and the maximun win is 2.
For now just forget the zero.
But you have 16 winners of 2 units.
You have 16 Losers of ONLY 1 unit.
You have 4 Losers of 4 Units <<<< without that you would have a winning bet, would you not?
Without those 4 losers the odds are actually 2 to 1 and 16 of each. Very Good.
If you could stop those 4 numbers losing would it be a winner?
Or even make those 4 numbers win?
Try betting like that, see if you "can predict" when those losers are coming, the rest is irrelevent.
The bet is only for tracking really, to see when the losers are coming.
How do you make a loser into a winner? Easy. bet on it at the right time.
Betting on 4 numbers as you know you only need to win every 9th spin to break even.
Obviously you can't win long term by betting every spin, but it doesn't matter how often those numbers come in. If they are not as random, ie. fairly equally spaced out, then you have some idea when to start betting them.
As for a trigger, yes you need a trigger. Betting 2 columns and 2 dozens you can easily find a trigger based on the last spin, or the one before it, whichever you prefer.
Kind Regards,
Christ now Im even more confused ???
over at gambler's glen there's a thread called "one big hoax". in it's lower part a guy claims to have found such ab bet and also gives some hints.
SINCE THE NUMBER 3 IS THE MAGIC NUMBER, BET THE 3 BEFORE LAST EVEN CHANCES AND GO FOR 12 UNITS GOOD RESULTS PS.AND ITS SIMPLE , FORGET THAT LOST IT ALL .
...... intresting!! I thought that Casinopitbull said that it was an inside bet.....?
Quotethis is beting straight on numbers no dozens no columns corners bet black orr red w hoo sgive hell u play for profit not for joke so think about its is huge advantage becouse
u know where to exactly bet and when is not win nevermind next
couple spins will be ok just pation there is couple time miss but this is just bad sequence numbers normaly u can aply any
playng condition becouse what its it RAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM JUST stick with that one day come light
no worry))))))))))) ))))))what a surprise ))))))))))safely play u can use
1 st bet dozen after use that win for corners )))))))))))))))))its up
to u im go stright on inside NO LEARN NO EARN AND DONT WIN TO MUCH )))))))
Carlitos 8)
Hi Carlitos,
I think the confusion is lying in the fact that there are winning consistant bets to be found using the outside bets,
and a winning consistant bet using the inside numbers.
If we know there are 4 bets to be found they are not all the same bets or method's,
and remember you dont have to place a bet every spin,
Davemd.
Hi Davemd,
Thanks for clearing the confusion :good:!!
Carlitos 8)
Its just my guess Carlitos,
Ive been testing allsorts but cant see the wood for the trees,
I think other people are having some luck but Im just to thick !
Davemd.
.... maybe we just need to learn and earn..... like CEH says!!
Carlitos 8)
Yes Carlitos it is all about learning and earning,
learning to read randomness,
the latest is playing col 1+2+black or col1+3+red,
but you have to place the bets at the right time,
and consider playing col1+2 with red and col 1+3 with black,
trying to cover more of the randomness of the table,
but the key is when to place the bets,
and I dont have the key,
but Im working on it,
Davemd.
Hey Dave! Forget playing Col 1+2 with RED and the opposite. Its not working. I just want to save you some time mate.
Cheers
/Compa
It is working--wait for same of 3 colours,then bet opposite
with correspond columns,with suitable progression.
...............................................Iboba 8)
LOL@Iboba! ;D
Well guy's Im having very very mixed results,
some great,
but then it goes right down the pan,
Davemd.
I know mate..
/Compa
From my testing I have determined that there are no advantage betting systems like if red then go col 1,3 , or even opposite eg col 2
All results eventually end up at a loss.
The only way is to bet after a trigger.
After 1 year of searching and 19. 8mb of spreadsheets all I have found so far for betting dozens is this:-
1. Bet against dxd ie a repeat of the penultimate dozen eg 12[1] or 23[2] or 32[3] etc
2. If a dozen repeats then stop until the next change eg 12[1][1]3 now continue
3. So the trigger is - if there is no repeat dozen, then bet
4. Testing so far show an edge of about 10% playing dozens/columns at the same time ie 4 chips or 4 bets
5. Flatbetting
see if it can be improved upon.
example
Dozen or column. We are placing 1 chip on both dozens opposite of the penultimate
3
2
2W
2NB
3W
1W
1W
2W
0L
3
3
1NB
1W
1NB
3
3W
3NB
1W
2W
3W
2L
3L
Thank you Lanky
That is the first part.
The DELETE does not work
I wish to have my a/c cancelled
Can you do that ?
Cynic
Hi Cynic2,
what are you trying to delete my friend ?
Davemd.
Quote from: cynic2 on July 03, 2009, 07:28:08 AM
Thank you Lanky
That is the first part.
The DELETE does not work
I wish to have my a/c cancelled
Can you do that ?
Cynic
Cynic.
I have Deleted Your account as per Your request.
Lanky.
Davemd
Cynic said he was a professional roulette player who wanted to help us.......but he said that Victor pulled the plug on that.
So he deleted his account.
Now I can see why CEH is not happy with roulette forums, maybe they really are run by the casino industry.
Which is why we may never see a real winning flat bet posted here.
Hi Tastec ;)
Just out of interest have you read any of the above posts?
You posted :-
Cynic said he was a professional roulette player who wanted to help us.......but he said that Victor pulled the plug on that.
IF you were to read the above posts you would see that your quote is quite simply NOT true.....
BTW, FYI Victor is NO longer Admin & therefore CANNOT delete anybody's account.....
Xman1970
Obviously, you did not read Cynics post.
Lanky did
Quote from: tastec on July 05, 2009, 04:21:21 PM
Xman1970
Obviously, you did not read Cynics post.
Lanky did
Guess we will agree to disagree on that Tastec.....
IF Cynics had replied to the PM a sent him, his account would of been deleted even sooner.
Believe it not, the Mods & Admin are here to help...... 8)