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This is not for arguements, PLEASE keep that in mind! If I had to pick the ONE item I notice the most in terms of disagreements here and other boards it would be this......."prove it/how do you know". If we all kept that to a minimum, I think we could get along better, just my opinion.  Ken

Mr J

Are you accepting no dissenting opinions?  I have a totally different point of view, but if you want your post to stand as the definitive and final word on the subject, I guess I'll live with it.

Sam

Quote from: Mr J on June 27, 2009, 10:30:04 AM
This is not for arguements, PLEASE keep that in mind! If I had to pick the ONE item I notice the most in terms of disagreements here and other boards it would be this......."prove it/how do you know". If we all kept that to a minimum, I think we could get along better, just my opinion.  Ken

Do you know how much work goes into proving anything here. I program software just to see what is happening. Even that is questionable because of RNG squabbles. People don't easily accept proof. Perhaps getting along is a tragedy too. People are rightfully skeptical. Nobody has handed everyone that Holy Grail. That causes tension too.

@TwoCatSam >>> Post what you want, I dont care. My OPINION stands regardless, it won't change.  Ken

 "People are rightfully skeptical." >>> But it goes beyond that Gizmo. Even if your method looks damn sound, if you are NOT LIKED, you're in for one hell of a bashing from others. "Well either prove it or shut-up"! I mean, come on guys. @TwoCatSam >> I was a bit harsh, sorry (was drinking big time, lol), I would like to hear your opinion sir.  Ken

Mr. J

Opinions are just what they are, nothing more.  I will relate a true story about Hank Williams.

Hank was in this record producer's office singing him a few of his songs.  The guy did not believe Hank had written them so he said he would go to lunch and by the time he got back he wanted a brand new song.  Hank sat there and wrote YOUR CHEATIN' HEART.

Hank could have just got up and left, but--being a pretty salty songwriter--he just applied his craft.

When someone begins to boast about how they can do such and such, I see no offense in asking them to write us a song!

Sam

Quote from: Mr J on June 28, 2009, 12:12:44 PM
"People are rightfully skeptical." >>> But it goes beyond that Gizmo. Even if your method looks damn sound, if you are NOT LIKED, you're in for one hell of a bashing from others. "Well either prove it or shut-up"! I mean, come on guys. @TwoCatSam >> I was a bit harsh, sorry (was drinking big time, lol), I would like to hear your opinion sir.  Ken

I have a far better idea. I went through believing each of my new systems was the one that would deliver the goods. Luckily for me I did it all privately, long before the internet. Then I added computer run simulations to my vast information learned about probability. Again, long before I ever discussed anything on a forum. I did all the heavy lifting including going into casinos and losing. I then saw my first elegant pattern and I attacked it. I walked with 50 times my bankroll. It got my attention. That's the point. It got my attention, the only attention that ever mattered.

So what happened when I shared the epiphany of well formed patterns with the enlightened gambling class of the internet. It was rejected by the experts completely. At that moment I knew how to treat people in this field, like t**ds. There will never be a time that I give the liars and system fools an even break. BTW, people are starting to get the truth. So bring it on Ken. I'm a genius at this and everyone else is stupid. There is no reason logically to be nice. The worst thing you can do is give others bad advice regarding gambling. That's all there is, mostly, just a bunch of system guinea pig willing to claim they have it. What's missing is the vast numbers of those that have admitted that they have not found it. That's the true process. You learn what won't and can't work first. Everybody is "stuck on stupid."

P.S. You want and demand proof? I've already said it. You can prove it to yourself. In the end you will only believe your own research. I have begun the process that will change gambling forever. It's up to you to catch up. "Run Forest Run."

People are stupid until they learn & stop being stupid. I've given enough. I've shared enough. I'm done with this forum crap. I no longer wish to share talk about roulette. Goodbye sports fans. Don't be stupid. It's embarrassing.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on July 06, 2009, 12:49:28 AM
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Gizmotron,

Don't be a such a child! We know that "this forum crap" is part of your "everyday enjoyment in life". Don't give up on it.
Most of the people here try to keep the atmosphere on this forum friendly and positive. And I think most of us would love you to stay.

Speaking personally, I have to confess that I'm not always clear on everything in your posts. But I want to learn.
I, for one, really enjoy your contributions... and I believe there are many more like me out there. Come on, we don't want you to leave. ;D

Regards,
m

Quote from: Gizmotron on July 06, 2009, 02:06:22 AM
People are stupid until they learn & stop being stupid. I've given enough. I've shared enough. I'm done with this forum crap. I no longer wish to share talk about roulette. Goodbye sports fans. Don't be stupid. It's embarrassing.

I sincerely think you would make a great favor to this forum if you would quit it forever. Anyway, you have not learned to discuss intelligently or to express your thoughts in a coherent manner. Good bye and good luck.  :thumbsup:

That was a pretty salty response, potatochips!!

I agree; I hope he's gone. 

Sam

@Gizmo >>> My post was in no way an attack on you. I was speaking "in general", nothing against you in any way, shape or form.  Ken