Not long ago I said I would give an example of my "New Eyes on the Marquee" idea when I found a suitable system and example. The system is Turbo's "Four Number System" and the numbers come from JLP.- (Roulette=Ancient Game of Monks. Post 617)
What are new eyes on the marquee? It is simply another person who sits down quite some time after you do and he sees a new perspective on what is happening. My ideas are these, and I'm not sure I'm willing to accept them as truth, but here goes.
There are two times when your system will fail.
1. When the new eyes, playing exactly by your rules, finds a bet you must pass on.
2. When the new eyes, playing exactly by your rules, does not find the trigger which caused you to start betting. (I will say, I am used to seeing ten to twelve numbers on the marquee at Dublin or Riverbelle or CasinoWebCam. A person who tracks for himself is a different story.)
We will be using the street 25, 26, 27 for our example from Turbo's system. He says bet the number that came, 26, and continue to bet it until another, 25, kills the bet.
The following is a cut-and-paste from JLP.-'s post. My words fall after the -----------
Here is the test.
DUBLINBET TODAY
DEALER GOSIA
26---------------This is a trigger to bet #26
33
18
33
32
18
5
5
31
10 I.B.= 500
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7 W 502
2 L
13 L
10 L
19 W 504
20 W 506
31 L
25 L------------This comes from the same street at 26, thus killing 26 and all numbers in that street. However, seventeen bets have passed since the 26 came and a new player would see 25 as a signal to bet. We continue with JLP.-'s numbers.
11 L
7 L
21 L
13 L
31 L
0 L
9 L
10 L
7 W 524
31 W 528
15 W 530
27 W 532-------Here 27 would kill the bet on #25. Would the person who was originally betting on 26 now begin betting? If not, why? We continue on.
5 L
23 W 533
17 L
17 W 534
14 L DEALER CHANGE OTA
6 L
18 L
0 L
30 L
7 L
16 L
0 L
17 L
17 L
12 L
23 L
29 L
16 L
9 W 550
18 W 552
2 L
7 L
32 L
16 L
3 L
20 L
18 L
3 L
34 W 552
4 W 554
6 W 556
8 L
4 L
4 W 556
27--------Here we have #27, a winner for the person who saw the earlier 27 as a trigger.
A woman once asked me how to people could play the same system and one win and one lose. I think this could answer it in part. One might be betting and tap out while the other is waiting for a trigger.
This whole idea is by no means etched in stone and I would appreciate input.
Hi TCS,
the Question is interesting :thumbsup:
But: What would you say, if instead of 27 there had been the 25?
The "new eyes" would have got the win!
It´always the same question: Stick on your bet or change?
The answer: It´s all the same! Youl will be right as often as you are wrong.
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winkel
winkel
Thanks for your reply.
I am not talking about staying or switching at all. If I conveyed that, I did not mean to.
All I am trying to convey is what does the new person just sitting down do, and why aren't you doing it. Let's take Jakkalsdraai's reverse number system. Bet any number you can turn inside out: 23 becomes 32. Just for funsies.........
Here are my eleven imaginary numbers:
23
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
32 <------------bettor number one just won on this number as he was betting 32 to reverse 23. Player number two just walks up and sees this:
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
32 <----this is player number two's trigger to start betting for the 23. It was player number one's winner and player number two's trigger. At this point they would be playing the same system but player one could not bet and player two could.
With clothdog's root system, this cannot happen as you only stay with it four bets. The new eyes would see the same thing to bet on but perhaps see that it had missed a couple of hits.
I prefer playing systems where any and all people, if playing strictly by the rules, would all be betting the same and at the same time.
Sam
Hi TCS,
so let me ask this:
let us look at the triggered Numbers only, there may be any balls in between:
what is the difference between these orders:
23 32 23
23 32 32
32 23 32
32 23 23
if you can tell any difference in the chance that one of these rows will appear more often than the other?
I think they will all have the same chance, don´t they?
[highlight]I prefer playing systems where any and all people, if playing strictly by the rules, would all be betting the same and at the same time.[/highlight]
You should better play systems, that give you at any position/starting point the right answer of what to bet.
So if your starting point is 32 bet 23
and if your starting point is 23 bet 32
both triggers must be right! And 23 or 32 should appear both in the nearest future.
I hope my broken English lets you get my idea.
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winkel
winkel
You have broken English; I have a broken brain---together we will go far!!
Seriously, I've been sniffing paint fumes all day and am goofier than usual. I do see your point.
I will study on it as the oxygen gets to my brain.
Sam
It was my impression - (and didn't test this) that if another player
came in / sat down and began playing "eventually" both players would
be betting on the same numbers..
I'll have to look into it - I assumed that the system would give the same results
no matter when you begin charting (eventually)
Interesting idea.
Turbo
Taking the reverse-number game: If I were betting 32 because 23 had hit some twenty spins ago, and 32 finally hit, do I consider the 32 a trigger to begin betting for the 23? The person with new eyes on the marquee would definitely see the 32 as a trigger as he sat down long after the 23 had moved off the marquee.
So, I would either be betting every reversible number to reverse even if I had just won on it, or the new eyes guy and I would be playing leapfrog. My winner is his trigger; his trigger is my winner and we are never betting on the same number.
This phenomenon happens in many systems, but never in one where you are waiting for red to hit five times and then start betting black. Everyone sees a bunch of reds, even if the whole marquee is red and they would start betting on black. Just a silly example, you know!
TwoCat