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Title: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on August 20, 2009, 07:17:04 PM
Wait for an observed unbetted win; then start your betting on the next observed group and so on.


1 + 2 + 12 + 21 - Bet only when 12 or 21 has landed twice within 9 spins. Bet for 9 spins max.

1 + 3 + 13 + 31 - Bet only when 13 or 31 has landed twice within 9 spins. Bet for 9 spins max.

2 + 3 + 23 + 32 - Bet only when 23 or 32 has landed twice within 9 spins. Bet for 9 spins max.

0 + 10 + 20 + 30 - Bet group when any group numbers land twice within 9 spins. Bet for 9 spins max.

11 + 22 + 33 - Bet group when a number lands twice within 9 spins. Bet for 12 spins max.
 

I hope whoever plays this system does aswell as I have done and knows when to quit when they are ahead. Godspeed.


Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: hideseek on August 20, 2009, 07:22:25 PM
Definitive looser. I have tested variety of digital group combinations and end digit combinations. Just check in member download area, u will find the rx code. Just change your number and number of spins and u will find how beautifully it tanks.
Thanks
HS
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on August 20, 2009, 07:38:40 PM
@hideseek

A bird does not sing because it has an answer. It sings because it has a song.

Godspeed.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Compa on August 20, 2009, 07:56:19 PM
13-31,, 12-21,, 23-32,, 1-10,,2-20,,3-30,, 19-11,, 22-29,, Cadence1-9/0,, Figure 1-9 ,,they will all come,, or not,,forget it. Its a loser..

Its amazing how people stick to things that does not work...If You want to win in Roulette look elsewhere once and for all.

/Compa
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: hideseek on August 20, 2009, 07:58:28 PM
Hi Uly,
        I dont understand. Anyway, the following is my ans:

Bird never sings! Its your selective memory decipher the noises as songs!
Regards
HS
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on August 20, 2009, 09:06:28 PM
@compa and hideseek

When striving to achieve the apparently impossible, it is never wise to prejudge a system by assuming that you know what it can or cannot bring forth for you. :agree: 
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Jeromin on August 20, 2009, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on August 20, 2009, 09:06:28 PM
@compa and hideseek

When striving to achieve the apparently impossible, it is never wise to prejudge a system by assuming that you know what it can or cannot bring forth for you. :agree: 

Ah yes, but in this case, they are post judging, not pre judging. Based on the evidence, the computer tests with actuals, over tens of thousands of spins, it fails. If we are not judgmental, of systems, though not of people, we cannot advance knowledge.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on August 20, 2009, 10:09:01 PM
Hey Uly I'm game.  Any particular brand RNG (i.e. Microgaming, RealTimeGaming, Playtech, etc.)

Another question, any particular time frame (i.e. 15-20 minutes--or 8:30pm to 8:45pm)
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: hideseek on August 21, 2009, 12:05:11 AM
 This system itself is a repost. Uly reinvents his own system :rtfm:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/roulette-and-gambling-framework/the-ulysses-pseudo-random-number-generator-roulette-system/msg38713/#msg38713 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/roulette-and-gambling-framework/the-ulysses-pseudo-random-number-generator-roulette-system/msg38713/#msg38713)

I played with real money and lost. I was also vivid believer of DR and end digit play. Now I no longer play these games.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: cabbage on August 21, 2009, 05:56:37 AM
May this be a lesson to ye all, post not that he have doneth before  :angel:
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on August 21, 2009, 06:25:03 AM
@hideseek

QuoteDefinitive loser. I have tested variety of digital group combinations and end digit combinations. Just check in member download area, u will find the rx code. Just change your number and number of spins and u will find how beautifully it tanks.
Thanks
HS

Could not find the rx code? Can you post the code here? Or do you have something to hide? Is it even coded correctly, we are only sub-human, we all make mistakes?

@jeromin
QuoteAh yes, but in this case, they are post judging, not pre judging. Based on the evidence, the computer tests with actuals, over tens of thousands of spins, it fails.

Name one roulette system that didn't tank over a hundred thousand spins jeromin except for possibly the GUT?

The other point is if it starts to skew you stop playing and use your observational ability as a human being to judge when the observed results allow you the best chance to start betting again.

@proofreader
Williamhill Playtech and Luckyred RTG. The time frame depends on which course the game takes. And no set time of day. Anyway I thought you had given up on algorithmic generated roulette like most at this forum.

Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on August 21, 2009, 06:28:35 AM
@cabbage

It's not the same dude!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: hideseek on August 21, 2009, 06:57:52 AM
I am not sure about coding. If 1 of the # hits it will play all of those #s for X spins.
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=306 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=306)
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on August 21, 2009, 07:16:01 AM
@hideseek

QuoteI am not sure about coding. If 1 of the # hits it will play all of those #s for X spins.

Your rx coded program doesn't describe this system in any way shape or form?

The older version of this system you pointed out was coded by breeze88 I believe, who asked if he could take it to the MMM community and stated the results where scarily good. I don't know where that is now or what results where gained, if you know breeze you could ask him how he coded it?
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: hideseek on August 21, 2009, 07:40:46 AM
Correct. Code is for end digit play. For ex. your
Quote0 + 10 + 20 + 30 - Bet group when any group numbers land twice within 9 spins. Bet for 9 spins max
.

if we wait for 1 hit and play all of these group for 9 spins, it tanks. I expect the same for 2 hits and play condition.

This is my last post in this thread.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on August 21, 2009, 08:04:31 AM
@hideseek aka :girl_wacko:

Quoteif we wait for 1 hit and play all of these group for 9 spins, it tanks. I expect the same for 2 hits and play condition.

This is my last post in this thread.

(1) By the way it's 9 spins max e.g. if you win on the 2nd spin you don't continue on up tp 9!!!!!!

(2) Your prog tests for 1 hit then betting. And you expect the same for 2 hits? What are you a PreCog?

Glad it is your last post in this thread. Same here I will not post a reply to you again. Thanks for your atempts of skewing the facts, your a real star.   
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on August 21, 2009, 08:32:20 AM
@ Uly: I had given up on RNG Roulette until I learned a new way to practice my systems.  I love RNG now :)
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: seykid29 on December 12, 2009, 02:02:06 AM
I know this thread is couple months back,but believe me its a winner,to what degree,let your greed be the judge.And i try this system on automated,i see even if live ball a software is in place and pattern in place.And what you say about those numbers is true,it was hitting 31 13 not far,i told a friend bet some money on 13,31,1,3 he was laughing..then in 3 spins,3 hit 2 times one after the other..for 23,32 i realize same thing.Likewise for 10,20,30,0,00,000...yes 000,i think some who read my post know i play automated with triple zero + 3 gold star.So i have 42 slots to beat with payout 35:1.Why play?I love that little machine,we understand each other,after having known for 3 years.
seykid.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: hermes on December 12, 2009, 09:52:56 PM
Guys, not so much negative positivism! Let the guy breath. He tried. Who never try has nothing. The 1000 miles journey starts with the first step - he made it!
Hermes
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on December 13, 2009, 03:16:11 PM
Quote from: seykid29 on December 12, 2009, 02:02:06 AM
I know this thread is couple months back,but believe me its a winner,to what degree,let your greed be the judge.And I try this system on automated,I see even if live ball a software is in place and pattern in place.And what you say about those numbers is true,it was hitting 31 13 not far,I told a friend bet some money on 13,31,1,3 he was laughing..then in 3 spins,3 hit 2 times one after the other..for 23,32 I realize same thing.Likewise for 10,20,30,0,00,000...yes 000,I think some who read my post know I play automated with triple zero + 3 gold star.So I have 42 slots to beat with payout 35:1.Why play?I love that little machine,we understand each other,after having known for 3 years.
seykid.

Triple zero + 3 gold stars  :o I take my hat off to you Seykid.

I think the reasoning behind the system seems illogical to hermes and co as it is so simplistic. As long as the system methodology has helped one person see that patterns do exist, then I'm happy someone besides me has taken some good profit away from the casinos.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 30, 2009, 10:27:46 AM
Hello Uly.  How this system going? I've played it with some success, but I am having a hard time determining when to stop as the RNG stops allowing wins at some point--and after a win, the RNG I've noticed will take back the win by landing on zero enough times advancing the wheel.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on December 30, 2009, 03:39:11 PM
hi proofreader, its going well for the 11, 22, 33 combination and the 0, 10, 20, 30. With the other combinations only getting limited success.

I will only play when I see a strong bias in any of the combination groups. For instance if say the 11's, 22's or 33's are predominant over 10 spins. I will then play these and win (mostly) and then back off until I am sure it is a continuing bias and bet again or if the bias has faded then I will look for other combination group biases. Also I will play my other systems as well as or instead of. It all flows ~~~ on what I observe to be the next wave ~~~ of bias I can predict.

I mentioned to you on the other system the fouroulette system that I have found an important link between 18 & 33 and 11 and 28 so I am constantly in a conundrum of deciding which to play the 11, 22, 33 as a normal 3 unit bet, or to double up on it and play the 18 and 33 as a cover 1 unit bet thereby fusing the two systems together. Overall its doing pretty darn well.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: seykid29 on December 31, 2009, 02:46:02 AM
Hi again,
I was donig the same deductions.On the triple zero 3 groups recommended to play.11,22,33  like to cluster in a bias way,likewise 10,20,30 but as i have 3 zeros,0,00,00 i play them in their own group.So with this 3 groups you have to wait,but is a wait that is worth it.Havent recognize the 28 and 33 though.But the 3 groups above i must put them into full use.
Seykid.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on December 31, 2009, 07:19:37 AM
Hey Uly.  I tried again the 11,22,33 and 0,10,20,30 along with 9,19,6,16 with Pamper Casino (software) Real Money RNG Roulette.  It did win, but no more than 9% of my bankroll before it crumbled.

However, I just played it on TheVirtualCasino (RealTimeGaming) Real Money RNG Roulette and it won 300% of bankroll!  
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If two numbers of another group come up while you're playing, do you bet all numbers on both groups or just stick to your original group until a  hit or stoploss?
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this would make a superb bot running overnight btw.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on December 31, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
hi Seykid, its (11 & 28) and the other linked pair is (18 & 33) not 28 & 33, keep an eye out for them and see if you can see any bias with them.

Also if you are seeing, and proofreader, and I, are seeing a clustering bias with number groups. How is it that Spinning7 believes I am a stupid, bull shitting, untruthful, retard.

I think this is the mantra of a phucked up delusional individual who probably believes he is the character Neo in the Matrix. No one is forcing anyone to test or play this system, its a roulette forum where ideas are shared, that's all. If you disagree Spinning7 then just say so.



Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on December 31, 2009, 07:19:37 AM
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If two numbers of another group come up while you're playing, do you bet all numbers on both groups or just stick to your original group until a  hit or stoploss?
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this would make a superb bot running overnight btw.

proofreader, this is a tough one, as a few groups come up around the same time and I normally just play one group at a time and then am gutted when the other groups win that I didn't bet on. That's life I guess, it all depends for me if I see a strong bias forming on any particular group for me to bet it. I'm not rigid in that sense of play, I tend to go with what feels right at the time. P.S nice going on tripling your bankroll, but be careful of Virtual Casino, I'm sure I read somewhere it was not the best of casinos. Not sure though.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: hermes on January 14, 2010, 06:01:55 PM
All the systems similar to yours tanked up. Like Roberta, Enigma, Gamlet and so on. They all are not reliable. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't but you don't know if today is sometimes or not? Tapping in the dark like the creators of the systems. That's not negativity but precaution. It is guessing system that's for sure.

If new group comes out during betting you can bet also the second group (diversification) but better results were reached with jumping on the last new group and bet that one till hit.
Hermes
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Ulysses on January 15, 2010, 11:20:14 AM
thanks for the input hermes, I think  :-\ When I play I am more fluid in my approach, you develop a skill of when you can predict is a good time to bet and I play multiple systems over a single game. On its own this system is profitable only if you have the skill to use it. For you, it can only be used as a guide until you develop your observational skills. Read up on Victors strategy of 'time lines' there is an ebb and flow in the game, that's the key to understanding when to bet and when to wait. There is not a system on earth that will win all the time everytime, but to me it's about gaining the advantage to win most of the time and that's what this system does.
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: hermes on January 15, 2010, 02:36:11 PM
You mean intuition? I work all the time with it we are team.
Hermes
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: rayhd63 on April 19, 2012, 05:37:03 AM
Hello Ulysses,

have played your system with actual number aroung German casinos and it looks good  :thumbsup:

What du you think of 1 - 9 - 19 - 29  when 19 or 29 has hit ?!?

or even    2 - 9 - 19 - 29 

I would think to bet on 1 - 2 - 9 - 19 - 29

Greetings
Ray
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 19, 2012, 11:35:51 AM
Well I spend a lot of time in front of an RNG at Riverwind.  I will print the first page and do a little study.

More and more people are coming to the conclusion that certain numbers hitting "encourage" other numbers to hit.  I call it the "Birds of a Feather" phenomenon.  It seems to work very well for a short time and then quit.  This is the rare time I advocate winning and getting out before the birds all fly.

Don't be discouraged if you sit down at the wrong time.  Wait for some virtual hits.  Then shoot a bird or two.

Sam
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 19, 2012, 10:11:42 PM
Today my wife and I spent three hours + in front of an RNG screen at Riverwind.  I saw this trigger about seven or eight times and only one lost during the allotted number of spins.  Many won on the first two or three.

Uly, I sent you a P.M. but I hope you will answer me here.

I had several occasions when the 21 hit and then 21 hit again and then 1 hit--a winner.  Now, do you stop betting on that first winner?   Because we had three more hits from that group before the nine numbers were off the screen.  Four winners not counting the two 21s.

Thanks for this great little idea.  So easy to watch for and bet.

Sam
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: rayhd63 on April 21, 2012, 01:59:46 PM
Hi Sam,

I played this system a couple of times an what I do is , if it doesn't hit after 9 Spins I add one piece for another 9 spins. The most I had to add was 5 pieces.
We also had that occasion when after a Hit the same numer (Combination) comes up and I wonder schould I continue or wait..... :scratch_ones_head:
Either so, when I continued it worked out and also if I waited for the next pair....

The most loosing streaks I have is with 11-22-33 , so I'm thinking if I schouldnt bet on them....

Even so, I dont realy understand that method. But it seems to work great !!! And as long it does..... Lets play it   :dance1:

Ray
Title: Re: Logical Positivism System
Post by: Proofreaders2K on April 22, 2012, 10:18:34 PM
It would be nice if someone could create a tracker for this one.