Hello
My name is Steve.
I have studied Roulette a lot of years and I had tryed all the systems and ideas that are based on all the systems in this forum.
But as u have seen with none of them u can make steady income from Roulette.
This is natural couse Roulette is Random and u can NEVER know what will folow ON THE NEXT SPIN.
But
there is something that is going on when the roulette is spining and make outcomes.
something that as I see here(or other forums) noone has catch and understand in order to take advantage and make money.
when u will learn the way. . . the 1st thing that u are going to thing is :HOW SO LONG I HADN T THOUGHT ABOUT IT?
and then of cource u will abandon ur jobs and be a pro Roulette player(exept if u love ur work and have roulette as an additional intcome. . . HUGE income)
the KEY that will lead u to this succes is "the law of propability"
which I see that a lot of u know this law. . . . . but u don t apply it with the correct way to win in roulette.
as many of u know or don t know. . . the law of probability is a sience.
its not magic. . . . its just something that is happening and we don t know why. . . its like gravity.
so u know that if u test with a coin. . . . 100 times. . . . the resault will be close to 50 50.
that is ur ADVANTAGE at roulette.
nothing more and nothing less.
when u find out how to apply this advantage in Roulette ,then the money will come.
I read so many things the last week on some forums.
BUT 2 cases made me suprised!
1st was this CHARLES story. . . about a consistant winning bet!
how much rediculus is this?and I read all the site. . . it was FULL of contraditions.
2nd was one man that was claiming that was betting 37 numbers and win. . . .
this is even more rediculus.
and the problem is that a lot of ppl beliving in them and trying to find the way. . .
with the law of propability I have made a way to bet. . . when the right moment has come. . . .
flat betting only
the BR needed is 20 chips( althought the most sessons u will need just 10. . . but 20 is for more safety)
then its ur desision about how many chips u want to win and leave the casino.
it is matter of how much time u have.
I go for just 20 at the point I am becouse I bet heavy.
the 1st weeks that I have disovered this way of playing and I didn t have enough money to bet heavy(and I also was afraid) I was betting 5 euro chips and when I was up 50 chips I was leaving casino.
now I am betting 100euro chips and I am leaving with 2. 000euros.
there will be some seasons that u will lose these 20 chips. . . . . but it is very rare. . . . . . in the end of 3 sessons u will be always up.
my sessons is something like win 10 sessons and lose 2 sessons
so 8 * 20 = +160 chips and 2 * 20 =- 40 so in 10 sessons the profit is 120 chips 120 * 100euros = 12. 000 euros
u can make even 2 sessons at one day . . . . but maby will take a lot of hours. . .
when I 1st started I was doing 2 sessons per day. . . couse roulette before this has sucked me much money and I needed them back.
now days I just do 15 sessons per month.
Anyway I am here to teach u how to make money.
OFCOURCE I can not come here and tell u "hey men this is exactly how I do it" couse to many will see it and these too many will tell others to many and then in a few months the casinos will be out of money!
and then I will not have an income anymore.
but I am here to help u.
the clever ones will undertand.
just ask questions and I will help u. . . . of cource the questions shouldn t be. . . . "tell us where and when u bet"
I can just give u clues. . .
also if someone will found out how. . . . I hope he will be cleaver enough not to tell anybody.
if you are not intrested in all this I will just desapear as I came in. . . .
Has percentage distribution got something to do with your play? and the re-balancing of the distribution?
Cheers
Diarmaid
Diarmaid
EXACTLY!
u are very close.
now the only thing to do is find when and where to bet
Do you play outside bets or inside, maybe sectors???
I have looked at this before and I always found a problem with the fact that when a bet becomes unbalanced it could actually be re-balancing from previous spins that I never seen before I started playing. So this way there is still a 50:50 chance that when I start betting for re-balancing to occur it could go the wrong way an I lose.
Cheers
D
i can t understand what happened?
i just came to help.
i tryed to post my reply into my theas but it was denying.
Diarmaid. . . . . .
ITS NOT A BET OF STRAIGHT - SPLIT - TRIO- QUARTER - LINE .
NOW U ONLY HAVE TO SEARCH THE ONES LEFT.
I see that the moderators here doesn t want the ppl to learn how to make money!
so as i said as i came i ll desapiar.
Good luck Diarmaid. . . . . u are very close.
mr vls
the forum s administrators just made the ppl that are smart and willing to make money from roulette to lose their chance to do it.
twocatsam
can u see now why I can t tell anyone the way??
why u to have the way if u are not smart?
u posted
"Somebody stop this person before he bankrupts the casinos and I can't make my measly 20 Euro per day!"
I told u u can win as many chips u want. . . it depents on ur time.
and I told u that u will bet heavy. . . . .
so betting 25 euro chips even if u go for +20 u will make +500 euros.
spike
as u see u are not good for finding this way too.
I just feel sad for the ppl that wanted to make money.
admins and bad members just cut their chances.
if the admins and the bad members had their eyes a little open they would see that I only did 3 posts in my original topic and I have expose the 70% of the way!
so as u should have seen so far I am not a man that want to make u tired. . . . .
JUST by only 3 posts I have shown to u all a lot of hints.
and for the 2nd and 3d post the reason that u all got that 70% help is the clever member Diarmaide
I hope u will take that chance that I am willing to give u and do the same thing that he did. . . . . ask questions!
if I will see anything that leads to an insolt again I will have to permantly leave from this forum.
in my "village" we have a wise phrase "the hand that feeds u , u shouldn t bite it!"
I also want the insulting posts to be deleted in order to continue to help u.
its ur choise only
Okay, let's have the first question:
"ITS NOT A BET OF STRAIGHT - SPLIT - TRIO- QUARTER - LINE . "
Streets, dozen/column or even chances? :)
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Kind regards.
Victor
Back into post theme .. you use any kind of progression ?
I have understand that when you think is the "moment" you bet heavy, but flat or progression ?
I'm just curious to know you point of view :)
Lulloz
my friend take a look at my original post and ur answer is already answered!
I told u I have told u the 70% of the way in just 3 posts
Quote from: stevetracker on August 30, 2009, 10:34:14 AM
Lulloz
my friend take a look at my original post and ur answer is already answered!
I told u I have told u the 70% of the way in just 3 posts
Sorry Steve, i have missed the original post.
Question answered :)
Hi Stevetracker,
so is your bet on the dozens ?
the columns ?
or the even chance positions ?
or could it be combinations of all of the above ?
What do you use as a trigger to know when to bet ?
or is the trigger exposed every spin ?
Kind Regards,
Davemd.
Hi Steve thanks to your i have actualy couple questions one of them assume that i play just flat bet i have problem with many misses even when i wait a pretty long for right time to bet still missing 3 orr max 5 spins which make me disgust my self. Time which i spend on game dayly its long enough to practice mindset but. . . i try diferent wheels time to times switch aproximatly after 300 spins and actualy still the same problem do u have any advice for this?? i do not like bet 5 times i would like make myself better it is there way how to do it ?? Thank you
DAVEMD
I can t tell u exactly what I bet. . . . but the help is this:: think of what is better to give u more chances to be up.
also the other help is that some times ONLY IF THE LAW OF PROPABILITY shows u that. . . . u will bet with combination. . . and this is the safest and more quick and the most profitable way!. . .
but u must not exclude the no combinations bets. . they are also profitalbe. the onlY thing is that u maby need 30 spins to make ur target profit
TINO
sorry I am fot familiar with flf-dbl-dtl.
I told u that its my 1srt time in a forum and I don t know these orologies.
BOMERAG
I don t know if I understood what u are talking about. . . but if I have the answer is that:WHEN U FIND THE WEEKER BALANCE ,THEN THE OODS ARE TAKER CARE.
WINKEL
i hope u made a joke with this question
Admins
I deleted the posts that was out of topic couse I wanted to help ppl here to read the Juice and not to confused theiselfs.
I am tryng to help u the best I can (I hope u have realised that)but please don t tell me to tell the exact way.
I know for sure that the clever ones will find out the way. . . (maby they have already have and test it)couse I give the best and closest clues
QuoteI deleted the posts that was out of topic couse I wanted to help ppl here to read the Juice and not to confused theiselfs.
No beef, you are free to do so in your own threads. The whole purpose of granting users the remove button is for posters to take the threads where they want to.
Thanks Stevetracker,
thats a bit of food for thought,
but can I just ask you again about the trigger to bet ?
in your opinion is there a trigger exposed every spin or a trigger exposed after a certain series of results ?
Regards,
Davemd.
DAVEMD
WELL DONE perfect question. . . . u are in the right track!
BUT i will answer u by one question. . . .
CAN u find the weeker balance(law of propabilities) by only one spin?????
I don t know if I understood what u are talking about. . . but if I have the answer is that:WHEN U FIND THE WEEKER BALANCE ,THEN THE OODS ARE TAKER CARE. Apreciate, your answer actualy i did it couple time the same way when was weekest time i was bombarding 8 spins in max bet fuul lenght part of wheel definitly right .. but the time is not right sometime to come this point it long way we talk about 4oo spins what is with people around table nearly 6hours
CAN u find the weeker balance(law of propabilities) by only one spin??
No you cant,
so examine the results using the law of probabilities to expose the trigger ?
am I now on the right lines ?
Regads,
Davemd.
BOOMERAG
nono 400 spins would be a desaster. . . not only couse as u said u will need a lot of time ,but couse it would ruin the RIGHT balance observation and advantage.
U should find the GOLDEN RULE of how to track.
DAVEMD
EXACTLY!
i know that u will find the way
Quote from: stevetracker on August 30, 2009, 11:38:58 AM
BOOMERAG
nono 400 spins would be a desaster. . . not only couse as u said u will need a lot of time ,but couse it would ruin the RIGHT balance observation and advantage.
U should find the GOLDEN RULE of how to track.
Thats what im talking about Steve.... i no longer need 400 spins im happy with max 180. but that balancing give me little asskick as you said as i totaly agree RIGHT balance observation its need to know plus from DAVEMD v ery goood said, so examine the results using the law of probabilities to expose the trigger ... so the golden rule .?
one more help .
when u will find the right idea of the way.
u must do tests to find the GOLDEN RULE of how to track in order to find the right trigger and also find how many spins to bet there.
u will find all these by tests. . . .
tip.
do not be greedy!
i have already told u that 20 chips is the BR of 1 sesson. . . . so now u have the steady valiu in order to test if ur GOLDEN RULE is right or wrong
:) Hi Steve,
thanks for your willingness to try and ponit us in the correct direction.
Would you track a cycle of 37 spins?
Would you track Red/Black, Odd/Even, Hi/Lo? Then after a 37 spin cycle say we have 15 Reds/ 22 Black, 12 Odds/ 25 Evens, 24 Hi / 13 Lo
So then for it to balance in the next 37 spins we would play Red, Odds, Lo. Is that correct?
Thank you
Cheers
jakk
BOOMERAG
if u see that 180 spins are ruining the balance . . . . (ofcource they are!!!!!!)
then do tests in order to find the GOLDEN RULE.
JAKKALSDRAAI
yes is something like that
BUT
u should find the GOLDEN RULE as I told u so many times.
also think if it is good for u to bet 1 or 2 or or 4 or more chips...and also the most important...if u must NEVER bet an odd that will never take u UP.
all these will be clear from ur tests.
Quote from: stevetracker on August 30, 2009, 11:46:47 AM
one more help .
when u will find the right idea of the way.
u must do tests to find the GOLDEN RULE of how to track in order to find the right trigger and also find how many spins to bet there.
u will find all these by tests. . . .
tip.
do not be greedy!
I have already told u that 20 chips is the BR of 1 sesson. . . . so now u have the steady valiu in order to test if ur GOLDEN RULE is right or wrong
im actualy im exactly there 20 chips 2 bets on ocasions never go dawn to 14 steady profit loool..but there is still but and u know what i mean have good day and thank you again
Let;s say for instance that we had 12 Reds and 25 Blacks in a set of 37 spins.
We could assume that we now need 12 Blacks in the next set and 25 Reds in the next set.
So we could now wait for say 12 Blacks to have been spun in the next set of 37 spins and then play only Red for the remainder of the set.
So effectively when 12 Blacks have shown that would be my trigger to bet on Red.
Cheers
Jakk
BOOMERAG
maby u have found the right way!
i can t understand ur english....but from ur tests it seems that u found something good.
NOW be carefull
1)do not get greedy on ur profits...if u need more u must go in an other table and apply the golden rule and continue from there!
2)this way is for U!!!!and the ppl that are clever and found it
DO NOT EXPOSE!
continue be smart!
ohh just forgoth u can please specific what is EXACTLY TRIGGER means???
Thank's Stevetracker,
I will now run tests and observe how to find the golden rule to exspose the correct trigger,
Many Thank's,
Davemd.
DAVEMD
u will find it i know..it is so simple with all these clues i gave u.
when u will keep it for ur self...continue be smart and make money and go bye a FERRARI.
and cover all ur needs.
BOOMERAG
trigger meen that now that u have done with the golden rule the tracking and u see that there is advantage to this table.....start betting
DAVEMD there is not to much testing but much obserwe as i did pretty hard obserwe for 2 reasons the more u know then more u can change...
U all just needed the right guide to look for.
all the other ideas of wiining is just losers and u have seen it so many years.
one more clue
u all know the system "waIT for 1 colum or dozen not to hit 6 times and then bet on it with progration"
u all see that u win some but u lose more.....
THE REASON U LOSE IS THE SPINS BEHIND THIS DOZEN OR COLUM"
IF U WILL TRACK U WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEEN
QuoteTHE REASON U LOSE IS THE SPINS BEHIND THIS DOZEN OR COLUM"
IF U WILL TRACK U WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEEN
Trying to understand. This reminds me about bjb007,
He said something like: why one should be surprised if dozen 1 slept for 20 spins if before it has been very very hot, appearing way more than expected?
Also, one should add: why to be surprised if dozen 1 appears 7 times out of 10 spins if it had slept long and being under-represented for a large amount of previous spins.
WHEN U WILL THINK THAT U HAVE FOUND THE WAY.
POST HERE THE RESAULTS AND ACCORDING TO THEM I WILL HELP U BY TELLING U WHAT TI DO TO IMPRUVE AND GET IN THE RIGHT TRACK
THIS WILL BE MY LAST HELP.
POST ONLY THE RESAULTS NOT THE WAY!!!!!!!!!
OK THATS IT....
GOOD LUCK
Quote from: Mr J on August 30, 2009, 01:10:32 PM
Clues and hints, you're lucky I'm not drinking. You sure sound like WWM. You have some of these guys on a leash, you should be ashamed of yourself. Ken
Mj. Steve have a god point arround this poitns costs TIME AND OBSERWASION AND EFFORT WITH CLUES . U ARE nut sorry!! triggering and right tracking is point make it work so waste your time with progression and not here i know u r great system maker and perfect contributor to this forum but now u r wrong littlebit. sorry
Quote from: Mr J on August 30, 2009, 01:32:21 PM
I bet the guy promised to clean your car too? HE * WANTS * ATTENTION! (I have another idea who this might be) Ken
no he was promiss me clean my brain from your rubish )))) what ever is orr who ever is it i dont care i care about facts no riddles JUST FACTS.
...... ohh yeee here we go again..
I too was stuck on the idea that betting on an even chance to "even out" was the way to go for awhile. It is easy to see why such an idea is so appealing. I mean, if you flip a coin 100,000 times the percentage will be at 50/50 (or very close to it).
Unfortunately, this idea doesn't work. I won't just say that and leave however, I'll explain why it doesn't work.
There is a difference between the number of times Red/Black has appeared and the percentage of times Red/Black has appeared.
The percentage will almost always work its way out to be 50/50 (I'm typing this example as if there were no zero...for simplicities sake). However, the number of times will almost always be skewed more in one way than another.
For example:
Lets say you spin the wheel 100 times. You get 49 reds and 51 blacks. That is 49% for red and 51% for black and a difference of 2 between Reds compared to blacks.
Now, you spin it 900 more times. You end up with 495 Reds and 505 blacks. That is now 49.5% for Red and 50.5% for Black and a difference of 10 between Reds compared to Blacks.
See how the percentages are getting closer to working themselves out and yet the difference between the number of times Red has appeared compared to black has actually gotten larger?
I'll continue: Lets say you spin the wheel 9,000 more times. Now you have 4,980 Reds and 5,020 Blacks. That is now 49.8% for Red and 50.2% for black and a difference of 40 between Reds compared to Blacks.
Eventually (due to so many numbers being tracked) the percentage will work its way out to 50/50, but the difference in the actual number of times Red has appeared compared to Black will be huge. Large enough to throw off any type of "even out" system.
Now, some will say in response to this, "this phenomenon only happens when tracking large amounts of numbers, so I'll just play short sessions and always leave a winner."
Again, that would be great, but unfortunately that doesn't work either. The reason for that is because you don't know where you're "stepping in". I mean, there have already been X amount of spins that happened before you ever laid your chips on the table.
I have posted an RXtreme .DGT file for you to actually see what I've explained happen yourself. You can download the RXtreme file here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=421 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=421)
I also let that RXtreme file run on my computer for 44,220 spins. Here were my results (there is a picture below):
Number of Reds: 21,434
Number of Blacks: 21,641
Difference between number of reds and number of blacks: 207
Percentage of Reds: 48.4%
Percentage of Blacks: 48.9%
(I was using a single zero wheel)
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rj
who told u to do it like this?
I have told....find the bet(s)that is not getting u down!
u are way far from the way.
3-4 members are very close!
if u need to make money from roulette...
ban the members that said all these bad words in this thread!
ita a same that some members that can t understand simple things to take with them in the botoom the clever members!
its ur last chance to learn the how...
but even if I will not continue to post clues the best clues are on this thread!
clever ones ...when u will find it...DO NOT EXPOSE IT!
good luck DAVEMD,BOOMERANG,VLS
as u see some don t desearve.
thanks for the expirience beening in a forum...
its ur choise what to do ot not...
I have spoken!
rj
this is the advantage!
how u think i am making money the last 2 years?
its just becouse U haven t seen when and where to apply this advantage....
i spoke about a GOLDEN rule...remember????
Hi Stevetracker
Here a a method that James explained,this is only the basic way to track....what do you think?
31 High
5 Low -1
3 Low 0
12 Low 1 -1
29 High 0
7 Low -1 -2
13 Low 0
0
18 Low 1 -3
24 High 0
32 High 1 -2
36 High 2
35 High 3 -3
29 High 4
5 Low 3 -2
6 Low 4
12 Low 5 -3
18 Low 6
28 High 5 -2
36 High 6
3 Low 5 -1
35 High 4
21 High 5 0
4 Low 4
10 Low 5 1
11 Low 6
24 High 5 2
23 High 6
4 Low 5 3
18 Low 6
31 High 5 4(WON +3)
:)
Thanks
MAX
MAX
what is this??? a joke?
where are all the clues i had given u applyed on this??? u followed 0 clues.(i bet the clever members i just post above will lauph at ur example!)
anyway if u ppl need to make money ban these members and i will be here to help u as i did before these insults.
TOWCATSAM,Philc,Winkel,Warrior,Mr j.
they are just cancer to this forum.
its ur desision....
i think it would be better for u to vote...thats what i would do!
i ll be here 2 more days...after that if i see no progress
i will leave pernmantly....
just been check some my numbers interesting point u was make with missing columns and dozens seems like they work back to back any explanation on this mean this is that balancing between advantage and bad weather game hmhmhmhmmmm i need to littlebit thing about thisnew clue ...anyway thank you Steve
boomerang
just test ;)
From my local casino I tracked red/black Hi/Lo and Odd Even
one session 24red/16black 22Hi/18Lo 21Odd/19Even
23red/15black 18hi/20Lo 14Odd/24Even
18red/14black 13hi/19Lo 18Odd/14Even
14red/22black 12hi/24Lo 13Odd/23Even
Cheers
jakk
Quote from: MAX on August 30, 2009, 04:17:19 PM
Hi Stevetracker
Here a a method that James explained,this is only the basic way to track....what do you think?
31 High
5 Low -1
3 Low 0
12 Low 1 -1
29 High 0
7 Low -1 -2
13 Low 0
0
18 Low 1 -3
24 High 0
32 High 1 -2
36 High 2
35 High 3 -3
29 High 4
5 Low 3 -2
6 Low 4
12 Low 5 -3
18 Low 6
28 High 5 -2
36 High 6
3 Low 5 -1
35 High 4
21 High 5 0
4 Low 4
10 Low 5 1
11 Low 6
24 High 5 2
23 High 6
4 Low 5 3
18 Low 6
31 High 5 4(WON +3)
:)
Thanks
MAX
I never seen shitless numbers like this ...this can piss off realy f**k in odd and even baaaaah no way thats have to be oposite what a hell just joke)))) yaya this is exatly where i miss spin odd and even <,,> piss off my self
i am sorry ...
u are in a bad track but i can t help....
i will be just observer
TBo0Merang
These are numbers from CASINO WIESBADEN20090601_3
:)
Regards
Max
TOWCATSAM
Thank God I am not U!
Hello Steve and all
this is my first post on here im just finding may way around. just one question for steve. . . why do you say move tables after 20 units? does the bet have a timer on winnings? surely if it wins it will keep on winning/eh?
Horsey
Quote from: MAX on August 30, 2009, 04:47:28 PM
TBo0Merang
These are numbers from CASINO WIESBADEN20090601_3
:)
Regards
Max
Max thank you friend i do not have problem exactly with numbers i have problem how they structured if u see them that some of numbers realy piss me off mean in joke to true this numbers if i see i will lost becouse i heat odd. i run wiesbaden numbers ass well for controll another numbers from another casinos and se them result together regards booss
Just for Horsey
My frend of cource u will keep wining as many chips as u want....
but
to do that u must aply the GOLDER RULE that u should find urself.....
and in order to apply it u need some fresh spins...so in order not to sit in that table that u won ur chips target and have fresh numbers instantly...u can go to an othar table
although if the seeson will last long,then u will have the new numbers to the table u have just won and continue from there....
i just told this with the deferent tables for ur good
thanks for the reply steve numbers are numbers though. does it matter if they are fresh? or if someone else used them other that you/eh?
for some reason you can not track from numbers you have used? assuming that the balance is corect/eh?
Horsey
exactly!
couse the ballance will be on ur side the time u will bet.
and after ur win u will need more numbers to show up in order to contunue....
so in order not to wait....u hit an other table
Ahhh! gotcha now. thanks steve :good:
Horsay well done!
now if u excuce me jentlmen i have to go and work.
in casino i meen ofcource
i hope when i wll be back...good things will happen in here
have good session>)Steve
Just came back from casino.
good seasson.
1st table very good balance(bad i meen)
so by playcing 2 chips in 2 diferent bets i was up 14 chips in just 6 spins(bigest loss 3 chips bigest win 14)
so then i hit an other table....good balance there too.
with a single bet i made 6 more chips that i needed to finish my sesson.(bigest loss 6 chips bigest win 6 chips)
profit target competed 20 chips*100euros=2000euros in 40 minutes.
so i see that here the things are getting worst.....
ok then sit here and try to find how to make money from roulette
i just tryed to help u but u didn t need that help as i can see.
clever ones:all the clues u need are in this thread.....
i even posted u the way i won tonight in order for u to see more clues....
good luck
May be your system is like this...
Only Guessing.
Example
In 11 spins
5 reds
6 blacks
Bankroll 20
On 12 spins bet on red, 1 chip if lose continue flat betting on red 1 chip
Up to the time you increase the bankroll to 21 then bet again 1 chip to color black
If lose continue flat betting 1 chip on black up to the time your bankroll increase to 22
And keep on until you reach your desired profit.
I got positive result for few spins.
Thanks
Steve,
Firstly thanks for posting, personally I am always interested in anyone that encourages people to think more about the game. The more we can learn about the laws of probability the better as far as I'm concerned.
Now for some questions/observations:
"Roulette is Random and u can NEVER know what will folow ON THE NEXT SPIN"
- Yes but you can know what preceeded on the previous spin(s) - I assume this is used in your system?
"flat betting only"
- Your system does not use any kind of progression - what do you mean by " also think if it is good for u to bet 1 or 2 or 4 or more chips...and also the most important...if u must NEVER bet an odd that will never take u UP."
"the BR needed is 20 chips (although the most sessions u will need just 10. . . but 20 is for more safety)"
-It is good that it is not a large BR, as other 'balance' systems seem to need a huge BR. I am sure there is a clue here!
"ITS NOT A BET OF STRAIGHT - SPLIT - TRIO- QUARTER - LINE . NOW U ONLY HAVE TO SEARCH THE ONES LEFT. "
- So it leaves dozens, columns and E/C's - have I missed any?
"think of what is better to give u more chances to be up. Also the other help is that some times ONLY IF THE LAW OF PROBABILITY shows u that. . . . u will bet with combination. . . and this is the safest and more quick and the most profitable way!. . .
but u must not exclude the no combinations bets. . they are also profitalbe. the only thing is that u maybe need 30 spins to make ur target profit"
- Are the more chances to be up the Even Chances?
"WHEN U FIND THE WEAKER BALANCE ,THEN THE OODS ARE TAKEN CARE OF."
"CAN u find the weaker balance(law of propabilities) by only one spin?? No you cant, so examine the results using the law of probabilities to expose the trigger ?"
- That makes sense!
"u must do tests to find the GOLDEN RULE of how to track in order to find the right trigger and also find how many spins to bet there, u will find all these by tests. . . . "
- Ok I will have a look
"u all know the system 'wait for 1 column or dozen not to hit 6 times and then bet on it with progression', u all see that u win some but u lose more.....THE REASON U LOSE IS THE SPINS BEHIND THIS DOZEN OR COLUMN, IF U WILL TRACK U WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN. Who told u to do it like this? I have told....find the bet(s)that is not getting u down!"
- I will look into this further
"1st table very good balance(bad I mean)"
- It is obviously 'good' that the balance is bad?
"so by placing 2 chips in 2 different bets I was up 14 chips in just 6 spins(biggest loss 3 chips biggest win 14)"
- You are obviously playing combinations of bets with different odds - are you always staking the same?
"with a single bet I made 6 more chips that I needed to finish my sesson.(bigest loss 6 chips bigest win 6 chips)"
- It is hard to see how you would have done that on a single bet with a stake of 2 units - can you please explain?
NOW FOR MY LITTLE RANT AT THE OTHERS:
If you turn on the tv or radio and there is nothing on that you feel is any good then you can change the channel or turn it off. You all have the same options here in the forum. If you dont believe that there is anything in what Steve is saying then move on to somewhere else. What is the point in hanging around and bringing it down with negative crap?
Why does it always happen in forums that threads become littered with rubbish from the minority of idiots? Like I said, turn off or move on
Roulette play interesting post what remaind me one question / the no no spins are sometime painfull eve if they profitable there i aply odd action plus cover i call it what if:)
Lanky man you have so right:)))thnx
Lanky
ooo my god!
U understood finally that i am a scam!!!
now ppl should thank u for this ...well done ZORO!U saved the pll again.Did ur black horse helped u to realise that?
;D
ooo MY clever and no clever members!
u are like the pll that send Jesus to the CROSS.
he was telling that he came to this life for good perpose and the resault was nobody to belive him and sent him to death!
was the Jesus were telling the truth?
of cource he did!
how many did they beliaved him? only a few...what happened to the few?they went to heven!
the answer to the question why i was so fast came back from the casino,was of cource couse the casino is 5 minutes far from my house by the car!
and i had bought this house espesially for that reason!
i was so exited to tell u the resaults of the sesson (the way i played it,couse i needed to help u with more clues!!!)and i posted imediately to the forum everything.....and now look what happened!
question!
IF ONE OF U HAVE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE MONEY FROM ROULETTE.....WHERE WOULD HE BYE A HOUSE?
answer
OUTSIDE FROM A CASINO!
when i 1st found the way and started making money i played to all the casinos of my country.
but there wasn t enough!
i had to travel!
so i did 1 time the round of the world...i played in a lot of casinos and i visited many countries and had fan.
i came back with a huge amount!
i did investments.
now days i don t want to travel anymore and i have bought a house near the see and also near the casino!
why to have to be far from my job if i can bye a house near it?
U ppl will never learn how to think
i am sorry!
Hello.
I dont know if Steve is a scammer or not if he's been sarcastic or not, but I really dont mind.
The important thing here, is that he posted some interesting ideas to work about how to find the best system to beat roulette.
And he has told us at least 2/3 important ideas to think/work about.
Thank you.
i don t care if u think i am a scam or not
jyst for a day don t thing of me at all!!!
just as
zuanatiko said read again the help i have given u
i ll be in the chat for a little....take advantage of that!
Quote from: stevetracker on August 30, 2009, 06:21:56 PM
Just came back from casino.
good seasson.
1st table very good balance(bad I meen)
so by playcing 2 chips in 2 diferent bets I was up 14 chips in just 6 spins(bigest loss 3 chips bigest win 14)
so then I hit an other table....good balance there too.
with a single bet I made 6 more chips that I needed to finish my sesson.(bigest loss 6 chips bigest win 6 chips)
profit target competed 20 chips*100euros=2000euros in 40 minutes.
so I see that here the things are getting worst.....
ok then sit here and try to find how to make money from roulette
I just tryed to help u but u didn t need that help as I can see.
clever ones:all the clues u need are in this thread.....
I even posted u the way I won tonight in order for u to see more clues....
good luck
5, 9, 5, 19, 28, 22, 1, 5, 17, 0, 21, 29, 26, 17, 12, 4, 0, 26, 32, 24, 2, 26, 18, 2, 7, 29, 21, 3, 18, 6, 32, 0, 11 Steve i just been in DB this was happened how u see between this couples spins now can you tell me something about?
YES bOOMERAG I WILL HELP U.
THESE NUMBERS U POSTED...ARE NOT SHOWING A GREAT ADVANTAGE...
SO IF U WERE IN THE CASINO U WOULD LEAVE THIS TABLE AND GO TO TRACK AN OTHER ONE TO FIND UR ADVANTAGE THAT WILL LEAD U TO UR PROFIT TARGET.
WE ALWAYS PLAY SAFE!
1 MORE GREAT HELP IS COMING!
OBSERVE THE DIAGRAMS FROM RX AND UNDERSTAND AS MUCH AS U CAN...IN THIS SESSON WE HAVE +15 PROFIT.....WE TRACKED 2 DEFERENT TABLES
(//)
Thank you Steve this is what i look for exactly this is what confuse me the short parts wasnt give any choice option if we dont have another table just wait until that wawe come out and this can be pretty long sometimes. i ve seen 8 wawes like that where this happened and why <>< u see im not missing the point im missing just small parts to finish right. now if u realy excuse this question which didnt give me sleep couple days and i like sleep nicely. what a hell have with this to do math??? be straight becouse im realy cant find answer for this well odds and law of chance anything more?? the graphs yes clearly understand what you mean.
Hello again
We have some interesting clues, but I am still struggling to find the exact moment (the trigger) to start betting.
I can track 10,20,37. . or wathever number of spins, of course R/Odd/ for example, can pop up 70% in that number of spins, but in the next spins, to reach the way to 50%, sometimes the way is tooo long and we could have large drawdowns on the way (but I believe eventually we got that 50% and profit)
Zwanatic, I totally agree with you and this is where I'm struggling too, we know it will eventually even out but it could take a long time, or the imbalance could have been due to previous numbers that we havent seen - that's the problem!
BOOMERAG
1ST U USE THE LAW OF PROPABILITIES TO FING THE TARGET
2ND U USE THATHS TO SELECT THE BEST ODDS THAT WILL GIVE U THE PROFIT
IF U ALL READ AGAIN ALL I HAVE GIVEN....IT IS SO OBVIOUS WHERE U MUST BET!
ok MEN.
THE NEGATIVE POSTS ARE GONE FOR U!
NOW U HAVE ALL THE JUICE TO WORK WITH WITHOUT CONFUSION AND EASY TRACKING
Ummm, Lanky says you can't delete my posts anymore unless I'm very frank! I'll be quite nice and challenge you to put up or shut up. Are you up for a test? Is anyone willing to help me test this guy?
He says he can walk on water; I say let's carry him down to the lake!
Can I get a witness?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 31, 2009, 10:02:41 PM
Ummm, Lanky says you can't delete my posts anymore unless I'm very frank! I'll be quite nice and challenge you to put up or shut up. Are you up for a test? Is anyone willing to help me test this guy?
He says he can walk on water; I say let's carry him down to the lake!
Can I get a witness?
Sam
Hi Sam .
Even though this is being rectified as We speak.
If You put Your post over here.
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/questions-and-comments-about-the-stevetracker's-way-thread/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/questions-and-comments-about-the-stevetracker's-way-thread/)
Then this Guy has no control over what post can or can't be removed.
Lanky.
Lanky
I have publicly challenged this man in two places to go to chat and show us what he can do. I will personally supply the numbers and some mod can sit in to verify.
Man, this is sickening! We know you claw a dollar away from a casino. You fight and darn near bleed! I'll admit, I've cried a couple of times. And this guy says his knowledge will bankrupt the casinos of the world.
Some mod step forward and volunteer to be the verifier and let's test this person.
Sam
Two cat nothing wrong about your opinion im just a littlebit thing... if you check any of live wheel numbers which result you got
nearly every 50 spins ???? you can choose number which you like and find diferent aproach how that number catch it is it symple as I said now assume that someone have little experience with VB plus some math skils ??? and he s not hungry about how much he can take home .................... JOB IS DONE nothing magic anyone can do it track your number orr quoter and bet on that right time this is all what Steve said and ufortunatally for others he have right. with probabylity law as you know when to wait for another 40 spins I doubt that situation is clean that anyone know that your number not come every 10 spins ,ocasionlly happen ofcourse. I just said which way I see Steve info
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 01, 2009, 09:11:53 AM
Lanky
I have publicly challenged this man in two places to go to chat and show us what he can do. I will personally supply the numbers and some mod can sit in to verify.
Man, this is sickening! We know you claw a dollar away from a casino. You fight and darn near bleed! I'll admit, I've cried a couple of times. And this guy says his knowledge will bankrupt the casinos of the world.
Some mod step forward and volunteer to be the verifier and let's test this person.
Sam
I can see that Sam.
Any of the Mods can do it for You Mate.
Maybe Spiders Kiss or any other Mod that aligns with Your Time Frame.
Its nearly 11 pm here now So I am out.
Good On Ya Mate.
Lanky.
Hi
By all means Sam,if Im about when its going down just holler me..it would be a pleasure :)
TSK
Gents
I'm off on vacation today and it's a five or six hours drive. I will sit up all night tonight if need be to see what this fellow has.
Thanks, Lanky, TSK.....
Sam
The only thing stevetracker beats regularly is the monkey, lol
steve the 10000euros offer was a joke i wouldn't pay 10cents for it or your roulette computer but thanks anyhow.
horsey
when we spoke though chat u seem to me very sirious about offering money...and u were desperate!
now i think u posted this because u know i would never accept any money and u just afraid that the other members (like the clever boomerag did)will make fun of u that u are offering money for a system.(u also told me when i was advising u not to ever give money to anyone that u have already did it!)
admins
i can t underatsnd what challenge u want to offer me?
boomerag
u will be rewarded for ur attitude!
steve you are right i did "seem" desperate to buy your system. so i must have done a better job of convincing you that i want to buy it than you have of convincing the members of this forum that you have a winning system. at the last count there were 2 people that are willing to listen to you and they are really the desperate ones that you would love to take advantage of. i would love to bet that you will not accept the challenge from twocatsam/eh?
you have no shame.
Horsey
well guys if ican say about this something . have look properly on this thread i didnt see any system which everyone try pretend i even didnt see that Steve said he s winning all time if i read well he said that from 10 sesions he will 2 sesion loose becouse that can happened i didnt see any holly grail but...what i see is goood advices how to track your numbers for winning session so anyone cant say he is scamer orr trying to make picture that he have something what we dont have he didnt nothing wrong if the someone want tryit can try just choose your number track him and bet for that. what is iloggical about this orr maybe im tottlay naive..
Quote from: Philc on September 01, 2009, 02:13:16 PM
Viper5, if you can't understand Sam's challenge there is no hope for you. You failed to beat Roulette, get over it and move on.
Casinopitbull, well done for coming back (like a boomerang) and working out Steve's system, great.
well .... we know you are the clever one... /DO YOU SEE ANY SYSTEM ??? / I didnt work out nothing I just said what I can take from that and I will....
Quote from: Philc on September 01, 2009, 02:28:58 PM
Yes Casinopitbull, totally naive.
"steve" also said he has been winning with this system for 2 years. That is a total lie as it loses just the same as all the other systems he created in his past life as Viper5.
Either that or he has just discovered what he thinks is a winner.
More likely I think he is trying to be the next Dyksexlic (your hero), but he can't even do that.
well u have right I have quiet .Dyksexlic is best fun what I ever seen on forum whe he catch good weather I cant stop laungh pictures with some slogans are so funny I like it I like it that guy maybe he sometime make no joke but I like it . What is your opinion its your no one will be said this is not like that. how I said u have right I have quiet
why.. you say sorry ??? do what you like if you bored and you need kick ass soemeone just do it i dont care i have other problems see ya but anyway, nice to meet you one more friend hmmmm
Stevetracker, the challenge is simple. Twocatsam has explained it in clear detail. Without even having to disclose your method, you prove, via a trustworthy party, that the method is a winner. I don't know why you wouldn't accept the challenge if you have what you claim to have. From now on I think I'll be keeping a blacklist of all verified scammers, time wasters and BSers. Accept the challenge or shut your pie hole for good.
no6 and admins
i never said that i will not take the challenge!!!
tell me what u need me to do!
the only way that i will not accept it is if with this challenge i will see that my way will be exposed!
if not then give me the challenge!
but when i will win...then try not to cry!
becouse after that i will not give any clues...
because u were all unfaithfull!
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If i cant do it nobody can right Vipe.. oh.. I mean Steve?
If this gets deleted it's Viper..
couse who else spells cause like it???
I win many seasons LOL