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Main => Roulette & Gambling framework => Topic started by: RichardGraceFan on June 09, 2008, 03:32:18 AM

Title: HANDLING HOSTILITY
Post by: RichardGraceFan on June 09, 2008, 03:32:18 AM
If you play in casinos regularly then you may someday come up against a hostile member of the staff.
It may be a "Floorman" who watches your every move, or a pit-boss who accuses you of counting. You
could also encounter an unfriendly dealer.

However, if you encounter hostility, here's how to handle it. Get up slowly, take your chips, cash them
in and leave. There is no benefit in getting into arguments or playing when all eyes are on your every
move. Far better to stop playing altogether and go somewhere else than have to fight against a tide of
tension as well as the house edge.

Richard
Title: Re: HANDLING HOSTILITY
Post by: EddessaKnight on July 02, 2008, 10:09:45 PM
100% agree with this pragmatic advise as there is no winning an argument with hostility.

Furthermore, anytime a player encounters a contentious dealer/pit critter who demonstrates the intention or ability to defeat the player- he should pick up his chips and leave immdediately before a pit call is made upstairs to:

1. ID the player

2. videotape player

3. call security

CAVEAT EMPTOR-
*Also keep in mind if player believes if the game has been unfairly manipulated or he was cheated or anused, he can exit off property and place a call to the State Gaming Control Board and ask for an investigative agent for assistance. Naturally keep a record of events, including names of dealers and witnesses for his report. And if playing for large $ always be accompanied.


Good Luck-
RoB :)
Title: Re: HANDLING HOSTILITY
Post by: toey on July 13, 2008, 08:59:33 AM
I've always wondered about this- what actually happens 'upstairs'?
I know cameras are watching every table all the time, but what do they watch for? Errors of the dealers? Systems of the players? Possible cheating?

If someone is winning a lot, do they start to intimidate them?
Title: Re: HANDLING HOSTILITY
Post by: EddessaKnight on July 13, 2008, 09:20:26 PM
Toyey, et al-

Eyes in the Skies,
Well you just about covered all the major casino concerns.
The pit critters are there to see that the house is getting it's predicted cut, when the action or hold at the table drops under expectation then the pit swings into action to see what has gone wrong with the game. The PB can call upstairs and request a matching video profile checking on specific players, or ask for a recording to ID a new portential threat for their books. Depending on the casino, winning starting  at between approx $2500 to $3500 will act as a trigger signal. Suspected collusion beween player  & dealer will get instant attention.

In brief, anyone who proves he can consistenley overcome the odds, in whatever way, is considered a threat and is a nominee for various casino reactions. Although it may look like Oz it isn't and the mgt will take whatever necessary counter action to disccourage or ban any players who making withdrawals
at their expense. In Vegas the posted law gives the casino the right to stop or evict any player without cause.

BEFORE GETTING THAT TAP ON THE SHOULDER FROM A FLOOR MAN CONSIDER-
So after you have finally figured out how to over come the odds of the table of your choice, now all you have to do is defeat the casino and their professional all star team. ;)


After 15 years of investigation this is their generic shared mental mgt attitude: The casino provides an illusionary entertainment on their property with a losing propoistion called gambling which the patron pays for at the losing rate and not an opportunity to make substational money nor earn a living.

Not all casinos and not everytime mind you and some off shore casinos are more lenient and relaxed.

Hope the overal philosophy behind their practice assists the understanding.

Back to the salt & pepper mines >>>>>


Good Luck,
EddessaKnight  :)