I came up with an idea for a system last night. And I have started testing but I have some questions. It has been awhile since I have played roulette, I took about a 6 month break from it, so I am a bit rusty, especially with inside bets.
What is the average profit per spin that people usually look for? For example I just finished a 116 spin test and it finished +120 units. that is about 1.03 units per spin. I would love to make that much per spin but is that good enough? I forget what the expectations should be like for roulette. I would think that is good enough considering how hard this game is but I forget how long it takes to make 116 spins at a live wheel.
The original system that I started with covered 24 numbers. But I just couldn't figure out a way to to design a good progression around a 24 number selection. i tried playing splits and streets but I found that I would have to win a lot more bets than I lost to make a few units of profit. When I play the variation with 24 numbers I do win a lot more but then if i get a few losses it makes all that work to go waste. Is there a good progression for 24 numbers dealing with streets or splits?
For now I will continue to cover 12 numbers and I will continue testing.
Also I have one more question with some math. I just want to make sure that I am doing my math right because that is rusty as well..
If I cover 12 numbers for 3 spins and I win 2 bets and lose 1 bet then I will have had a total of 36 units (12*3spins=36) risked.
So 1 win should be equal to( 36 units-11)=25 units. 36 units is how much I win covering one number with one unit and 11 is how many bets were left on the table that did not win, which gives the profit of 25 units.
So since I won 2 bets that would be (25*2bets)=a profit of 50 units. And I lost one bet which would be (12 units). So I would subtract the 50 and the 12.
50-12=38 units in 3 spins...
Is my math correct?
thanks
John i dont know exactly what you mean but lot of thing is depenc how you play and how big value chip you use , so if you use 25 chips for 160 spins therefore carrefully player wil make arround 350-500 on even chances if is go all well and if you bet with the same amount numbers then god player will finish arround 1800 plus minus 150 ofcourse depenc on situation but surrely one hit is 900 so??? assume starting bank.500 minimum
Quote from: Bo0Merang on September 07, 2009, 03:10:20 PM
John I dont know exactly what you mean but lot of thing is depenc how you play and how big value chip you use , so if you use 25 chips for 160 spins therefore carrefully player wil make arround 350-500 on even chances if is go all well and if you bet with the same amount numbers then god player will finish arround 1800 plus minus 150 ofcourse depenc on situation but surrely one hit is 900 so??? assume starting bank.500 minimum
I was only using $1 as the base unit. If I had been playing with $25 dollar chips then I would make something like $3000 dollars in the 116 spins. Altogether I had $1 on each of the 12 numbers.
you see bro i was said carrefully player not an animal lool
hahah yea, but I have seen crazy people like that at the casino.
Quote from: John1234 on September 07, 2009, 02:41:20 PM
I came up with an idea for a system last night. And I have started testing but I have some questions. It has been awhile since I have played roulette, I took about a 6 month break from it, so I am a bit rusty, especially with inside bets.
What is the average profit per spin that people usually look for? For example I just finished a 116 spin test and it finished +120 units. that is about 1.03 units per spin. I would love to make that much per spin but is that good enough? I forget what the expectations should be like for roulette. I would think that is good enough considering how hard this game is but I forget how long it takes to make 116 spins at a live wheel.
The original system that I started with covered 24 numbers. But I just couldn't figure out a way to to design a good progression around a 24 number selection. I tried playing splits and streets but I found that I would have to win a lot more bets than I lost to make a few units of profit. When I play the variation with 24 numbers I do win a lot more but then if I get a few losses it makes all that work to go waste. Is there a good progression for 24 numbers dealing with streets or splits?
For now I will continue to cover 12 numbers and I will continue testing.
Also I have one more question with some math. I just want to make sure that I am doing my math right because that is rusty as well..
If I cover 12 numbers for 3 spins and I win 2 bets and lose 1 bet then I will have had a total of 36 units (12*3spins=36) risked.
So 1 win should be equal to( 36 units-11)=25 units. 36 units is how much I win covering one number with one unit and 11 is how many bets were left on the table that did not win, which gives the profit of 25 units.
So since I won 2 bets that would be (25*2bets)=a profit of 50 units. And I lost one bet which would be (12 units). So I would subtract the 50 and the 12.
50-12=38 units in 3 spins...
Is my math correct?
thanks
I guess that my first question doesn't really matter anymore because I after playing I realized that the profit will not always come in at the same rate. For example I just played a session where I made 116 units in 38 spins.
But I still am not sure if my math is correct.
tHATS the point John sometimes you can came on table and been done about 20 minuts with you target win im not experienced on that way but how i said is depenc how the game go i thing even long experienced player will say the same sometimes its time to leave without question if is bad time is bad time i see this when i play there come times when i know i have aproximattely 1 and half hour time i can quietly drink kofee and watch boobs or play even chances so i will splitt it quoter even chances and other that boobs and long legs ))
haha ok thanks
Hello dear John.
The profit per spin must be according to the profit you will need to overcome your max. loss session. This simple.
Remember, if not what you win, but what you don't lose what matters in the end (Ask Lanky! :))
As long as you can pull a profit consistently, the unit should increment and your actual money balance has to be on the rise.
1 win profit = 24, if you stop there.
2 win profit = 36, if you play the third bet, or 48 if you stop there.
Quote from: VLSroulette on September 07, 2009, 04:52:41 PM
Hello dear John.
The profit per spin must be according to the profit you will need to overcome your max. loss session. This simple.
Remember, if not what you win, but what you don't lose what matters in the end (Ask Lanky! :))
As long as you can pull a profit consistently, the unit should increment and your actual money balance has to be on the rise.
yea that is a very good point that you made. I guess that I should be happy with whatever I make as long as i don't lose anything.
Quote from: bombus on September 07, 2009, 07:13:10 PM
1 win profit = 24, if you stop there.
2 win profit = 36, if you play the third bet, or 48 if you stop there.
Thank you for helping me with that. for some reason when i do the math i get
1 win= 25 profit
2 win = 50 profit
I think that I am getting those numbers because I am adding the bet that I made to the profit. This is so easy to understand but I always get mixed up with this stuff
Quote from: John1234 on September 07, 2009, 08:18:12 PM
I think that I am getting those numbers because I am adding the bet that I made to the profit. This is so easy to understand but I always get mixed up with this stuff
Yes, add in the bet, but you only get paid 35, not 36.
ok thank you for clearing that up for me