This is a system I've been mucking around with and seems to be good :pleasantry: so far :pleasantry: It involes using the wheel layout:
0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26
Record spins until you have a gap between the numbers of either 7 8 or 9 then bet the numbers in between:
15
4
13
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0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26
x x x
Now you would bet 21,2,25,17,34,6,27 flat bet 1 unit until you get a hit. If the bankroll is lower than previous up the units by 1 on the next game until in profit then reset back to 1 unit again.
Here is a 101 spin test, the first line down shows the size of the gap, the second was how many spins before a number in the gap hit, the third is the bankroll after each game, and the forth shows where I had to up the units to recover the bankroll:
9. 2 +18
7. 4 +26
8. 1 +54
7. 1 +83
8. 1 +111
7. 1 +140
8. 5 +136
7. 4 +152 (2u)
7. 2 +174
9. 6 +156
8. 1 +212 (2u)
8. 7 +192
7. 3 +222
:ok:
Forgot to say when you get a win wipe all the recorded numbers and use the last winning number to carry on ;)
had a run of 13 before it hit in 1 of my tests which was pretty bad so maybe need to cap it to 6 or 7:
9. 1 +27
8. 5 +23
9. 1 +77 (2u)
9. 2 +95
7. 1 +124
9. 3 +133
9. 13
Also a couple of time the numbers have fallen in such a way that it makes it impossible to get a gap of 7 8 or 9 so I just wiped all the numbers and started again.
Hey mate,
Just to inform you, I spent months working on the wheel layout. Using the amount of slots from last number.
And I can tell you that it makes no difference. For example if you divided the jumps in half, 1-9 and 10-18, you now have a EC setup.
But I can tell you that it creates the exact same waves of results as the outside EC's create, random is random and there is absolutely no getting away from it no matter what you dress it up as, its still random.
After all this work, I have totally dumped the idea. Weeks ago. I now just track the dozens and columns and attack trends for a few units a day.
You are testing this using some sort of a pluscoup or progression and obviously you are going to get some good results but then I can assure you if you continue testing you will notice that it just wont work.
I my opinion you need to look at the bigger picture, watch the flow of WL's and find entrance points and use them flatbetting, and only when you have mastered the flatbetting, then you can be more aggressive and use a slight progression or whatever.
Just my opinion, mate.
Regards
D
Quote from: Diarmaid on September 15, 2009, 09:05:45 AM
Hey mate,
Just to inform you, I spent months working on the wheel layout. Using the amount of slots from last number.
And I can tell you that it makes no difference. For example if you divided the jumps in half, 1-9 and 10-18, you now have a EC setup.
But I can tell you that it creates the exact same waves of results as the outside EC's create, random is random and there is absolutely no getting away from it no matter what you dress it up as, its still random.
After all this work, I have totally dumped the idea. Weeks ago. I now just track the dozens and columns and attack trends for a few units a day.
You are testing this using some sort of a pluscoup or progression and obviously you are going to get some good results but then I can assure you if you continue testing you will notice that it just wont work.
I my opinion you need to look at the bigger picture, watch the flow of WL's and find entrance points and use them flatbetting, and only when you have mastered the flatbetting, then you can be more aggressive and use a slight progression or whatever.
Just my opinion, mate.
Regards
D
I can respect that Diarmaid, i know you done alot of testing on this kind of thing.
thanks
Quote from: Diarmaid on September 15, 2009, 09:05:45 AM
Hey mate,
Just to inform you, I spent months working on the wheel layout. Using the amount of slots from last number.
And I can tell you that it makes no difference. For example if you divided the jumps in half, 1-9 and 10-18, you now have a EC setup.
But I can tell you that it creates the exact same waves of results as the outside EC's create, random is random and there is absolutely no getting away from it no matter what you dress it up as, its still random.
After all this work, I have totally dumped the idea. Weeks ago. I now just track the dozens and columns and attack trends for a few units a day.
You are testing this using some sort of a pluscoup or progression and obviously you are going to get some good results but then I can assure you if you continue testing you will notice that it just wont work.
I my opinion you need to look at the bigger picture, watch the flow of WL's and find entrance points and use them flatbetting, and only when you have mastered the flatbetting, then you can be more aggressive and use a slight progression or whatever.
Just my opinion, mate.
Regards
D
Hi Diarmaid,
When you say "watch the flow of WLs and find entrance points", can you give me an example of that?
Thanks
cabbage you are foxy man i see you day to day more clever my friend give me please some nice system as well... just evenchances thats all:_)
If you must wait for the gap between numbers - say 7,8,9 from prior number, why don't you just play for that gap. Like a Fibonacci code. the distance from last number to next chance. Sometimes it will repeat distance from number. Numbers will be 5 - 14 - 7 - 0 All in one direction on the wheel with 6 spaces from prior number. Now you can play the gap from numbers like this. Number 6 is the last number, you like the gap 7,8,9 play 15 and the neighbours and 23 and neighbours. If the movement of the ball is in one direction on the wheel or the dealer like to go to one side of the prior number play the numbers , with GAP , to that side. Dealers signature - Spin clock and anti clock, but still the next number is more to the right or left of last number. The ball can only end left or right from the last number. If last number is 6 and dealer spins more to the left of the number play Tiers and orphans. 6. 27. 13. 36. 11. 30. 8. 23. 10. 5. 24. 16. 33. 1. 20. 14. 31. 9 This is an even chance, you play 50% of wheel. If the dealer jump between left and right from last number play trap the opposite side from last number.
hope it helps
Twocando
Quote from: curious on September 15, 2009, 08:07:36 PM
Hi Diarmaid,
When you say "watch the flow of WLs and find entrance points", can you give me an example of that?
Thanks
Use multible systems and while tracking, record the WL's and look for imbalance in one and wait till one starts to rebalance and jump in and make a few bets.
I'm not going to go any deeper than that into my methods. But use one of the money management ideas on this site also because you can get it wrong and when you are not winning you need to be breaking even and not losing.
Cheers
D
Quote from: Diarmaid on September 16, 2009, 05:57:25 PM
Use multible systems and while tracking, record the WL's and look for imbalance in one and wait till one starts to rebalance and jump in and make a few bets.
I'm not going to go any deeper than that into my methods. But use one of the money management ideas on this site also because you can get it wrong and when you are not winning you need to be breaking even and not losing.
Cheers
D
So, let's say that Black is showing LLLLLLLLLLWLW, you are saying that you might jump in here because Black W is going to have to rebalance the long string of losses?