This subject always kills me. Most (not all) believe that EVERY roulette method/idea has already been thought of and played. (I disagree) I dont need the exact date or what the method was or the author but can someone tell me what YEAR the LAST roulette idea was conceived? Thanks, Ken
Quoteevery idea has been thought of?
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Considering roulette is a game which can serve for aiming to make a profit at any payout possible from 1 to 35 numbers covered and since each and every one of the possible numerical groupings formed can be attacked from a different methodology... how come ALL the ideas have been thought!!!
Not to mention the different approaches for the different numerical groups can be combined (I.e. the more-coverage ones -such as the even chances- can finance the riskier and higher-paying ones -the single number, splits, streets, corners or double-street bets-... these type of approaches are something not unheard of).
Claiming everything is invented is like claiming all the numerical combinations have been already spun!
Victor
Thank you. We might be in the minority on that sir. Ken
I'm one hundred and ten percent with Victor on this one.
In a game of nearly infinite possibilites/combinations and a world where math and the combinations you can make with it are also nearly (if not actually) of an infinite proportion, I'm pretty sure "every idea" won't EVER be thought of.
you will not live long enough to read all that has been written about roulette. the internet has million of roulette systems all they say will make you rich. put you in the poorhouse more likely, when you can have nine picks on the even money chances and still lose. that should put you off roulette for life. people write in to say they will be barred for winning too much. are they living in a dream. from my wandering around the casino most people i see are losers. win today give it back tomorrow. are there any long term winners. i would like to see the casino records. of all there players. to see if there are any winners. still i will be gambling today. good luck
FOR ALL >>> Some guy had a GREAT idea how to beat this game many decades ago. So again, what YEAR was the LAST good idea conceived for roulette? And before that year, would you agree that most likely the other roulette players THOUGHT that EVERY good idea was ALREADY thought of? So technically......they, at THAT time, were wrong. For example....you cant say that in June of 1765 in a SPAN of four minutes, every good and every bad betting idea for roulette was conceived. There has to be a beginning (of the thought) and an end *IF* the end already came and went. If it did, what year would that be? Ken
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(Was that overkill?)
Sam
I like it! Ken
...well I dont know nothing about.but IF i know the person who did it I will kick him ass personally. ZERO :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
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this question makes no sense. there are new ideas about how to beat roulette every minute of every day.
Mr J makes no sense, ever. :haha:
Thats ok Bombus, I make more money at roulette than you do AND I dont scam or "cover" for others. Sucks to be you bro. lol Ken
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Thats ok Bombus, I make more money at roulette than you do AND I dont scam or "cover" for others. Sucks to be you bro. lol Ken
I make more funny than money you don't AND I'm wearing thoughts for shoes, but they don't see me broken on the sidewalk, like moon men. Don't EVER stop not playing different new ideas for roulette because of the last one ever thought of by DATE mate. Any takers before this subject kills me? lol Bombus
Mr J, how do you know you make more money than bombus?
Funny, different forum, SAME class clowns. BTW, I make (net) more than you as well Number Six. Kind of sucks, hey?? lol Ken
Simple question: how do you know?
Simple answer...I make more than you. I can do this all day long OR until one of the cronies CREATES a fake reason for a ban, followed up with, "it wasn't me, the members have spoken". ROFL Are you jealous for not being successful? You should be. Ken
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Are you jealous for not being successful? You should be.
Successful at what? In general or roulette? Again, how do you know?
And back to the original question, which you predictably evaded, how do you know that too? There really isn't even a reliable criteria we could use to make some sort of judgement since there are far too many factors to consider. Or is making nonsense statements part of your grand scheme to martyr yourself? Like anyone will care if you get banned. But you're on an 8-year long jihad aren't you? LOL!
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I can do this all day long
Of course you can. You've got nothing better to do. LOL!
I give you a little credit Bombus, you know WHEN to shut up. lol Are you and Number Six still playing, "just the tip". I have stated several times...roulette only and in NET terms. Jihad? Sure, why would it be cancelled? Hey Number Six...you still lurking around at roulette sites, pawning yourself off as a REAL player that goes to a REAL casino and bets with REAL money? I guess its all fun and games on 'Planet Number Six', where anything can happen? Will you be a rodeo rider next week or perhaps a firefighter? lol Who in Gods name posts (on more than one board) and does NOT play for real? Walk it like you talk it coolbreeze. A guy who ONLY posts......must be gratifying, I guess? Ken
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Something I thought of that we'll never know the answer to....... All my posts (including deleted) on all boards, over the years. If we counted the number of times someone posted OR emailed, "hey Ken, thats a weird/dumb question" AND we also count "hey Ken, I never thought of it like that, interesting question". What would the ratio be? Also, every poster is counted only ONCE.
Why you ask? Because if we added up ALL of the negative remarks addressed to myself from Bombus, Anandram, Steve, Poit and Number Six, it would be around 300-350. Soooo, one poster, one remark over the years. I wonder what the totals would be? lol THATS THE PART THAT BOTHERS the five I just mentioned. They are 'in charge", yet very few people like them. Its not suppose to work like that, thats what they hate. Ken
"So.....every idea has been thought of?" >>> And still a great question on multiple boards. I'm kind of curious, what ever happened to that RULE (for here, not RF ;), no attacking other peoples thread/questions and putting them down? Is that a rule only when its CONVENIENT? Oh, oh, here comes the bias again. Good luck with sales bro. :dance1: Ken
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roulette only and in NET terms.
How then can we make a comparison?
As for the rest of your childish drivel, it means nothing, though in your own mind I'm sure that pretending someone is not a "real player" is the ultimate insult. LOL. It IS rather gratifying to be me, thanks. Also, back to the original question, which you've evaded twice now, how do you know you have won more than the next person over the years? Do you think there is someone somewhere that is under you in the leaderboard, or would you say you are top of the list?
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thats what they hate. Ken
I don't waste energy "hating". What is the point? I'm an emotional black hole anyway. You just don't like ME because I speak what's on my mind and I've got you all figured out.
"As for the rest of your childish drivel, it means nothing" >>> Well of course it means nothing. Thats because it makes you look terrible and bias. I also would not want to address it. lol Not top of the leader board but I would answer like this.....GRANTED, the math would be tough but I look at it in terms of 'percent'. Net only for roulette. All forms of play including AP (cough). Over the last 3 years.
All members on the major roulette boards. In terms of 'percent', thats tougher. How many visits per month/year? What about 4 times a month? (which is low) 144 visits. Its hard to count someone who bets once, $500 on red, wins and then walks out the door. I THINK you would agree? Anyways, I would say I'm in the "top" 7%, based on NOTHING so no need to ask that again. Or ask, I dont care. Ken
"You just don't like ME because I speak what's on my mind and I've got you all figured out" >>> You think you speak your mind more/better than me? No fricken way, sorry bud. Ken
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Anyways, I would say I'm in the "top" 7%
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Ok...funny rotating head, thats neat. 7%, I'll meet you half way. If YOU (or anyone) feel they are under OR over 7%, thats fine, no argument from me but thats where I AM AT. Like it, dont like, no big deal. Dont tell me you are getting jealous AGAIN? lol Calm down Number Six, I'm sure you're good at other things. Ken
Something I thought of that we'll never know the answer to....... All my posts (including deleted) on all boards, over the years. If we counted the number of times someone posted OR emailed, "hey Ken, thats a weird/dumb question" AND we also count "hey Ken, I never thought of it like that, interesting question". What would the ratio be? Also, every poster is counted only ONCE.
Why you ask? Because if we added up ALL of the negative remarks addressed to myself from Bombus, Anandram, Steve, Poit and Number Six, it would be around 300-350. Soooo, one poster, one remark over the years. I wonder what the totals would be? lol THATS THE PART THAT BOTHERS the five I just mentioned. They are 'in charge", yet very few people like them. Its not suppose to work like that, thats what they hate. Ken
Naturally neither you nor your claims can be taken seriously.....unless......unless you can elaborate on the "nothingness" upon which your 7% benchmark is based. For example, you are part of a global percentage, both historical and present. Therefore you must have a number in mind that represents the total number of players to have ever played to the standards of your criteria in order to be a percentage of something real. For this you would have to factor in a myriad practically inestimable variables. While you're on a role could you explain to us mortals how to build a propulsion system for faster than light travel?
"represents the total number of players to have ever played to the standards of your criteria" >>> Wrong answer coolbreeze. I already posted the guidlines at which I estimated at 7%. You are getting too goofy with EVERYTHING included.....what if it was cloudy in London and Phil was going to play but it started to rain so he cancelled. Who knows, he might of NETTED 5K that day? lol I posted it, agree or not, thats cool. I win and you PROBABLY dont. Thats the BEST compliment I can give you. I refuse to "up" your status just because you are mad for not winning. I'm not the enemy, blame the casinos for that. Ken
The point is, for an average player like you who might visit two different casinos in his lifetime it's impossible to estimate. For all intents and purposes you are even insignficant. In your world, which is limited to roulette boards and the people on them, it might SEEM plausible to say "I'm in the top 7%", in the real world it's unacceptable and nonsensical.
LETS TRY THE CRITERIA AGAIN >>> Not top of the leader board but I would answer like this.....GRANTED, the math would be tough but I look at it in terms of 'percent'. 1) Net only for roulette. 2) All forms of play including AP (cough). 3) Over the last 3 years.
4) All members on the major roulette boards. 5) In terms of 'percent', thats tougher. 6) How many visits per month/year? What about 4 times a month? (which is low) 7) 144 visits. Ken
Though I misread your initial post, I have concluded that your claim is no less absurd even considering the criteria since, like you admitted, it is based on nothing and therefore means nothing. It's a simple fantasy you're happy to indulge yourself in and cannot one bit be taken seriously. But if it makes you feel good
(I was waiting for that) Let me ask this....what if I stated, IMO, I was in the top 90% (same guidelines) for LOSING at this game? I would bet, you would either agree OR have no comment. You would not say......"your claim is no less absurd even considering the criteria since, like you admitted, it is based on nothing and therefore means nothing". Would you stand up for me? "Hey Ken, go easy on yourself, the top 90% for losing? No way Ken, I find that hard to believe". Damn, I ask the good questions. These are the SAME questions deemed as, "Ken sure starts trouble". lol Ken
Yes, whether negative or positive, if something has no substance it has no substance. However, if you were to say, "for every dollar I wager I lose between 5 and 6 cents" I would probably believe that. 7% is a ballpark figure in your own mind that has no meaning because you have no idea how many people constitute the criteria and how much they win or lose...truly you are in the top 7% of nothing. You obviously know this. To compose a leader board it would actually be better to use some sort of points scoring system that factors in net winnings, among other things, to produce a survey that reflects performance or effectivness rather than just raw winnings, though it still couldn't be done due to confirmation bias (there has to be a proportional element between how much people can win in relation to how much they have at stake and how much they can stake). Realistically it is nothing but a fantasy and I would even suggest that you retract your claim. LOL
No way, I won't delete the 7%. We dont agree, no big deal. It won't be the last time for that. I love roulette, its a fun game. I think too many people are afraid to play, IMO. I have tried to win with flat betting, I cant. I have tried to win placing bets based on NOTHING, I lose. Over the years, I STRONGLY BELIEVE that trial and error is most important but again, thats my opinion. Ken
"YOU DONT BEAT THE CASINO SO DONT TRY IT COS YOU WILL LOSE" >>> Ok, thanks for your opinion. Ken
All.....and I do appreciate your post, I wasn't joking. Ken