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Title: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: Mr J on October 07, 2009, 11:00:42 PM
I played today my method of find furthest back hit street (min. of 27 spins), wait till street hits, start progresion etc etc. I only had a few wins before going home but talk about a BORING method. lol Get this, the 28 29 30 street went 126 spins before it hit !! After that hit, it DID hit again with my progression 37 MORE spins later!! UNREAL is the only thing I can say. Ken
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: Marven on October 07, 2009, 11:57:21 PM
That's about the equivalent of an EC going missing for 21 spins, hitting once, then missing 6-7 spins more.

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Rare indeed, but possible. :D
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: Mr J on October 08, 2009, 12:10:18 AM
And that is why the OLD way I use to play this, I lost 3K a couple times. The old way....as soon as I located that furthest back hit street, I would THEN start betting but I only get 42 tries. I like this method dont get me wrong but you can NOT play it on a busy table, my opinion.  Ken
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Post by: VLSroulette on October 08, 2009, 12:22:04 AM
Quotethe 28 29 30 street went 126 spins before it hit !!

Wowers, that's like 378 spins for a single number.
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: bombus on October 08, 2009, 12:55:13 AM

I am the street meister...

It's not that uncommon for streets to sleep for long periods.

Personally I think you're much better off playing the busy street, not the sleeper.

The longest sleep I have seen and recorded was 184, street 19 20 21.

It's no surprise to me that it was street 28 29 30 that slept so long, mr j.

From my experience there are 3 streets worthy of extra caution... don't ask me why, it's just knowledge I have gleaned from playing the streets almost exclusively for about 8 years.

They are streets 0-2-3, 19-20-21, and 28-29-30.

I place special conditions on these 3 streets any time my strategy suggests betting on any of them.

I track for 28 spins then bet on the busiest street (up to two), providing it has hit at least 4 times, with all manner of shunting possibilities, meaning I might end up betting on the second, third, or fourth busiest street, or I might drop the lot and bet on the same street as my previous bet. On occasion I will even bet on the sleeper, but not often.

My view is that streets do sleep all the time so you should be trying to avoid them, because once they go to sleep, they can stay that way for long periods. Luckily there are plenty of streets to choose from so with a bit of educated guessing (I can't believe I just said that) it's not too hard to keep putting your cash on the right street, especially if you are using long progressions. 
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Post by: bombus on October 08, 2009, 01:38:32 AM

This is from Poit's 12 million spin stats post, which is something everyone should refer to.

Notice that streets 0-2-3, and 28-29-30 take 1st & 2nd place in the longest maximum interval column ( 0-2-3 is just ridiculous and equates to a single number sleeping for 693 spins!...More actually).

Street 19-20-21 is not so prominent, but it's up there, and was probably up there more often than the others.

Anyway, you can see that 163 spins (your total mr j) is about right to happen from time to time.

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi499.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr351%2Fskakus%2Fmax-int.jpg&hash=7fdd5cf85c09c30189bb351ab9ffa6ea6f3d9d95)
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: Mr J on October 08, 2009, 01:48:59 AM
"you're much better off playing the busy street, not the sleeper" >>> I didn't play the sleeper. I played it after it hit, HUGE difference.  Ken
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: bombus on October 08, 2009, 01:50:15 AM
OK,

Happy waiting.
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: Spike on October 08, 2009, 02:05:21 AM
Ken, do you monitor high/low while playing? They can dominate for 30-40 spins and that will kill you if you're betting the opposite.
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: Mr J on October 08, 2009, 02:07:42 AM
Its all in the wording. *IF* (in the past/future) I'm gonna get slammed for playing sleepers (which I do very LITTLE of anymore), its my obligation to defend myself regarding the wording. Like I said before regarding THIS method. I like my chances...... the SAME street being a sleeper back to back???  Ken
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Post by: Mr J on October 08, 2009, 02:12:40 AM
"do you monitor high/low while playing?" >>> I keep an eye on it but as far as recording? Honestly, no.  Ken
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Post by: Spike on October 08, 2009, 03:28:49 AM
I would bet 2 streets. Pick a high street and a low street. If the last number was high, FTL and be your high street. If its low, bet your low street. If you get a streak, just follow it till it till it ends. Might be a good method for your progression.
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Post by: rouletteplay on October 08, 2009, 04:21:16 AM
Bombus, have I read your table right - are you saying that a single street can repeat up to 7 times in a row? Does anyone have any data for the maximum repeats on a double street?
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Post by: bombus on October 08, 2009, 07:15:34 AM

Quote from: rouletteplay on October 08, 2009, 04:21:16 AM
Bombus, have I read your table right - are you saying that a single street can repeat up to 7 times in a row? Does anyone have any data for the maximum repeats on a double street?

Yes, and here are the 6-line stats.


(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi499.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr351%2Fskakus%2F6lineintervals.jpg&hash=2f72df8c8778eb61970fd5594f738f5c99d5d2e0)

You can get all this information here,

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/12-million-rng-spin-stats-shared-by-poit/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/12-million-rng-spin-stats-shared-by-poit/)
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: bombus on October 08, 2009, 07:20:39 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 08, 2009, 02:05:21 AM
Ken, do you monitor high/low while playing? They can dominate for 30-40 spins...

30-40 spins?.. that's a bit much, maybe 20 at a stretch... you're dreaming Spike, really.
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: bombus on October 08, 2009, 07:23:29 AM
Quote from: Mr J on October 08, 2009, 01:48:59 AM
"you're much better off playing the busy street, not the sleeper" >>> I didn't play the sleeper. I played it after it hit, HUGE difference.  Ken

Yes, much better off because you won't have to wait eons for a bet,  and you're just as, or more likely to win.
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: Mr J on October 08, 2009, 10:50:15 AM
"you're just as, or more likely to win" >>> No, wrong answer.  Ken
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Post by: rouletteplay on October 08, 2009, 02:53:14 PM
Bombus, those stats are from RNG - do you know how much it differs on real live wheels?
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: bombus on October 08, 2009, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: rouletteplay on October 08, 2009, 02:53:14 PM
Bombus, those stats are from RNG - do you know how much it differs on real live wheels?

Over that size spin sample, not one speck.

No one has been able to tell the difference between 20 or 30 spins, so over 12 million?
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: Spike on October 08, 2009, 06:08:15 PM
that's a bit much, maybe 20 at a stretch... >>

You never seen high dominate for 40 spins? It happens all the time. 35 highs and 5 lows (or any of the EC's), in different combinations? You need to play more.
Title: Re: OMG, I have never seen this.......
Post by: bombus on October 08, 2009, 06:26:39 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 08, 2009, 06:08:15 PM
You need to play more.

Yep, thanks for that.