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Title: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on October 29, 2009, 11:33:57 AM
As most here probably know i have been playing roulette for many years proffesional now.
i stopped working a long time ago and practise my hobbies (roullette / poker /Porsches).
i play a law off 3rd system and am happy with it ...........BUT.

A friend off mine seems to be succesfull with this system .
it invalves a progression and it bets on every spin,thats what i like about it ,that one bets every spin.
When i play my own system ,maybe i play 5/6 spins on a cycle off 45 spins,so another system that bets all the time would be welcome.

Now i handtested this system on 3000 spins off hamburg and it shows a profit.
It makes 1 or 2 % if i have to believe my buddy.

My question is if some wizzkid on this forum can program this system and test this on 100.000 spins or more.


I must state that i normally do not believe in this kind off system ,but handtesting this for 3 days now does show a small margin ,it could be luck but it could have a small edge maybe...

here is the system:

play double street (DS) for 5 spins flat with 1 unit
if no hit play that dozen for another 5 spins with progression:4-6-10-14-22
Session lost is  - 61 units start over again with Ds for 5 spins and then dozen with progr.
play all three DS / dozens at the same time


very simple but it does show a proffit.
I played DS 1-6 if no hit within 5 spins play dozen 1-12 for another 5 spins with progression
at the same time i played DS 13-18 if no hit within 5 spins play dozen 13-24 for another 5 spins with progression
at the same time i played DS25-30 if no hit within 5 spins play dozen 25-36 for another 5 spins with progression

Thats it.

losing sessions of -61 will show up,but when one playes all Ds and dozens simultaniusly it does show a small   profit in my handtesting.

Please can somebody program this and tell us the results on 100.000 spins or more
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Joker on October 29, 2009, 12:03:22 PM
how do you pick DS? which DS to bet first?
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on October 29, 2009, 12:12:39 PM
Hi, i played (in the testing) DS 1-6      DS 13-18        DS 25-30.

i play  all 3DS seperate for 5 spins flat then if no hit on that DS play the dozen for 5 spins with above mentioned progression where the DS is in (so for instance DS 1-6 is dozen 1-12),but meanwhile keep playing other 2 Ds.

Simultanious play on all three DS / dozens with above system
play them seperate offf course, so divide into 3 sifferent parts/ sessions ,but play them all the time .

I hope it is clear.


regards,

Petquesha
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Post by: iboba on October 29, 2009, 12:15:25 PM
Joker,
He told you............Iboba 8)
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Mike.OFF on October 29, 2009, 12:56:53 PM
1-2% profit EVERY spin
or
1-2% profit AFTER 3000 spins?
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on October 29, 2009, 01:49:40 PM
Sorry ,yes I explained that wrong.
Think its better to say between 0,1 / 0,2 units per spin profit.

Hopefully thats clear.

thx,

Petquesha 8)
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Post by: doms on October 29, 2009, 02:23:25 PM
what name of this system??
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Post by: iboba on October 29, 2009, 02:35:06 PM
Who cares.
As long as it wins.
But does it????
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on October 29, 2009, 02:43:11 PM
Well, why dont we call it 'the buddy system '..............

Regards

Petquesha

ps. anybody able to program this system? :whistle:

Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Joker on October 29, 2009, 03:10:03 PM
hey petquesha thank you.....

so how is living by just playing roulette? it seems like dream job to me? is it hard?  can you share how you play???

or tough to come up with profit?

let me know thank you

oh by the way... how do you deal with 0 or 00 for the system...thank you very much ...
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on October 29, 2009, 03:35:38 PM
About the zero ( i play single zero here in europe) just consider it a loss and keep playing following system rules as above.

About my life, i must admit that lately i make more money with my Porsche hobby then playing casino.
i do profit from casino but now play 2/3 times a week.
Must admit that sometimes i play blackjack as well as i really love that game ,got a large bankroll and at blackjack normally i come out a profit,but there are bad days!!

Roulette i play law off 3rd, i use a diagram that i made telling me when to start playing on nrs that have already fallen (within 37 spin cycle),quite simple actualy ,sometimes hard to place all the bets on time.
When 12 sleepers left, I play them flat betting.

very playable and long term winner,believe me (thats playing both sysytems .
Rule nr 1 to be succesfull is not to be greedy.
there is always a moment when my friends have mor ethen me when we pllay in casino,but i always leave with some profit where they normally go home broke or borrowing from me :rtfm:

But i would love to see how above system will hold on 100.000 spins, must be possible to program.

regards,

Petquesha

btw, i never take things for gratned and am thankfull for the live i live ,i live normall as wel spending wise,still buy the bargains in supermarket.
have been broke twice in my live ,thats when one goes to be creative ,but more important ,get respect for money,cause it doesn grow on trees, got my own collection off Porsches now ,and i love them all the same.
Roullete made this possible!
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Joker on October 29, 2009, 05:05:47 PM
wonderful thank you so much... so if 0 show up then ignore or consider as a loss?

and what is porche hobby?

let me know please thank you for your info

joker
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on October 29, 2009, 05:17:32 PM
Yes consider the zero as a loss, just keep going in the 10 step bet progression(DS 1-1-1-1-1-DZ 4-6-10-14-22)

Porsche hobby means ,i buy Classic Porsches in Europe / usa and drive them then sell them to other classic porsche lovers, trying to make a profit and make somebodies dream come true.

best regards,

Petquesha
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Kingspin on October 30, 2009, 04:08:23 PM
I have done some  session testing over 1000  spins total. Good results on rng except for ladbrokes rng where virtually any system fails very quick .  Worst rng on the planet is ladbrokes but I guess most pro's will know that anyway! ;D Most live games the player should walk away with profit . This system is worth playing for sure but only on a wheel.
I only play 1 double street and the dozen at  a time , playing all 3  at the same time I don't like.
eg 1 - 6 ds five spins then if  no win next attack the first dozen bet with the 4 , 6 , 10 , 14,  23.
Once a win comes I move to a different Double street I move to 13 - 18 and play the middle doz progression if no win on the ds. Once a win comes then move to the 31 -36 ds and play the top dozen progression if no hits on the ds.
I played it for real money at get minted casino on rng, (should be re-named get skinted) put ten pounds in and played with 20p chips , bankroll went up to £17 then lost a full progression , lost another progression soon after!.  I have to say I always thought the rng at get minted casino is fixed , it uses wager works software- I am sure wager works is a complete cheat and this proves it.  Basically avoid rng  at all costs with this system, I tried it at ladbrokes rng and went £35 up then lost the profit soon after. I would quit at +30 chips on rng with this system as the rng makes it lose. Target wins are always in a dozen which rng is fixed to force losing bets on target dozens. Rng is superb at dozen  dodging and ds dodging.  Top ds street hit 8 times consecutlvely to make me lose.
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on October 31, 2009, 06:45:20 AM
thx Kingspin, but i think it is important to play all 3 sections at same time ,because when we lose a progression we will still be winning at the other sections, that is where the profit comes from.

Shame nobody will program this to see if the profits will continue,i guess its back to hand testing ,i am not computer literate anough to program a system.

Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Kingspin on October 31, 2009, 06:25:09 PM
 Only problem is when green hits it could  hurt playing all three at same time. :)
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: sharp on October 31, 2009, 07:17:46 PM
Hi

Thanks for sharing your system. Im just finishing off a couple jobs on RX, when im done ill have a go at programming it in there for you.

Regards

happy winnings
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on October 31, 2009, 07:33:10 PM
Thats good news,thanks so much.......

Kind regards,

Petquesha
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: hermes on October 31, 2009, 11:48:13 PM
The problem with this "system" is that one dozen sleeps often more that 10 spins. You have a bad luck if you catch it sleeping!
Hermes
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: hoper35 on November 01, 2009, 12:02:51 AM
Yes, but a more important question is "Can you recover your losses when it sleeps for too long?".  :)


A statement like "A dozen can sleep for x spins doesn't say much".  It can also sleep for 2x spins.


Ron.  
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on November 01, 2009, 07:59:51 AM
Yes you will lose 61 units now and then,but in my tests there is still small profits on my hamburg nrs.
off course ds/dz sleeps for more then 10 spins ,very true.
But you are winning on the other 2 sections while you lose and they make up for some losses not all,then there are sessions also from when all 3 are hitting within the 10 spins.

Keep playing the sections simultaniously.

Lets wait for results when it is tested by programming this system,I just hope I explained it all correct.
As with any progression there will be losing sessions,but when I tested on around 3000 nrs (10 days in hambrug, full days, there was a profit showing every day.

best regards,

petquesha
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Post by: Mike.OFF on November 01, 2009, 11:55:47 AM
I'm waiting for test results too.
Very interested...  :)
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: sharp on November 02, 2009, 04:03:03 PM
Hello,

Ive added the roulette extreme file for this system to the downloads area here

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=448 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=448)

I didnt run it with real wheel spins only the RNG on RX (didnt look good :(  well for long term any ways however if you set a modest profit target say 50 units - it makes it most times :)

bets as in the first post from petquesha.

Good Luck
Sharp
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Lulloz on November 02, 2009, 06:40:16 PM
Hello Sharp, many thx for your work but there is a bug on the code.

The progression after a loss cycle have to reset to DS bet and not continue to DOZEN BET or i have understand it wrong ?

Many thx.
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: sharp on November 02, 2009, 07:08:21 PM
Hi Lulloz,

Yes i had thought that might be the case. Perhaps Petquesha could clarify and i will make the necessary adjustment to the file.

Also im sure this method could be adapted to be more profitable, short term sessions seem to be ok with RNG test on RX. Hopefully someone may test on live spins.

thx.
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: sharp on November 02, 2009, 07:21:40 PM
Updated the file to return to betting on line if a progression loss on the dozens as per Lulloz post above......... shows alot better graph this way on the rng in rx

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=448 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=448)

Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Bazeegar on November 02, 2009, 07:47:49 PM
If I am not asking too much, can you please post the graph? I do not have Rx.
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Post by: Lulloz on November 02, 2009, 07:54:59 PM
Many thx Sharp, now is working good  :thumbsup:
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Post by: hermes on November 02, 2009, 10:13:26 PM
Petquesha, I don't eat hamburger and I don't take flu shots either. I love myself. And I don't go to casinos for bargains also.
Hermes
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Post by: Gaza001 on November 03, 2009, 05:08:12 AM
All my numbers are from live roulette .com,

From 28/9/08 to 12/10/08 24 hours a day  recorded on sky


Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on November 03, 2009, 06:28:59 AM
Thanks for that hard work guys...
it seems to lose on the graph that is shown above ...
Shame!!

it is correct that the 1st 5 spins is flat bet on DS and after that (if no win)  one bets the DZ with the 5 step progression.
After win or loss reset back to flatbetting 5 spins DS again,I hope thats clear and if any questions please ask.

Thanks again,

regards,

petquesha

Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Joker on November 03, 2009, 12:22:35 PM
hey there thank you.. i think problem i had with this system was that dozen progressive can lose easily then you lose bit of money.....

can you program Simon's system? it seems like this never lose....

start 1 and 2 dozen , if lose 2-3 dozen use 7 progressive...i think this was posted on Best system on VLS.. and indeed i haven't lost with this as well...
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Mike.OFF on November 03, 2009, 04:07:54 PM
Quote from: Joker on November 03, 2009, 12:22:35 PM
can you program Simon's system? it seems like this never lose....

start 1 and 2 dozen , if lose 2-3 dozen use 7 progressive...I think this was posted on Best system on VLS.. and indeed I haven't lost with this as well...
Haven't lost yet...? My congratulations)
Progression would be - 1,3,9,27,81,243,729 = 1093 units * 2 dozens = 2186 units (if loose)
And it's just a 7-step progression, I've seen that the same dozen was hitting 11 times in a row... but it's on RNG, not sure about live wheels
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: hermes on November 03, 2009, 04:57:11 PM
Dozen 11 times in row? I saw it also on live wheels.
Hermes
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: insidebet on November 03, 2009, 07:29:21 PM
I have tested this on RX for about 6 000 live spins.  Loose big time.  Well! not really big time...
Just 3% which is about normal.

Insidebet
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Phishalot on November 17, 2009, 01:56:43 AM
I have played your buddy's method every day since you posted it. I have been looking for the wall. Today is the first day I have come home with a loss. I did put in a win goal of 40 units and a stop loss of 240 units. The longest it has taken me to make the 40 units has been 3 hours. Today is the first day I have hit the stop loss. I am way up, think the method is good if you use your head while you play.

Thanks for the Post
Phishalot
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Landis on November 17, 2009, 02:51:25 AM
Quotepetquesha wrote, " As most here probably know I have been playing roulette for many years proffesional now.
I stopped working a long time ago and practise my hobbies (roulette / poker /Porsches).
I play a law off 3rd system and am happy with it ...........BUT."


Sorry, but I don't for one mintue believe you're a professional.  For starters, nobody, is making a living playing the law of the third.  

Here's why:  The law of the third is really not much different then the law of 1 in 38....  It basically tells you what the likely distribution of numbers will be after a series of spins.  It does not tell you on which number to bet, and the distribution of numbers doesn't exactly always follow the law of the third.  In other words, you're not playing with an edge.  If you continue trying to play professionally over enough spins (without the edge), then you will eventually wind up broke, and remain broke, never to break even again.




-Landis.
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: petquesha on November 17, 2009, 05:25:58 AM
You don't have to believe me .
If everybody would live the life that i live there will be nobody working normal jobs anymore and the world would stop.
The world needs followers that cant think outside the box ,the government loves these 'salaryslaves '.

I don't have to prove my point to nobody , I actualy only play 2 times a week at the moment,you are welcome to come and see me play.

kind regards,



Petquesha
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Number Six on November 17, 2009, 09:58:08 AM
Landis, didn't you know? Nearly everyone on this board is a professional roulette player. Publicly saying so helps them to fill great big black voids of unimportantness in their lives. Eventually they all put their foot in it.
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: Phishalot on November 17, 2009, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: petquesha on November 17, 2009, 05:25:58 AM
the government loves these 'salaryslaves '.


There is the truth :clapping:

And if you are not one they come after you. >:D
Title: Re: Buddy off mine playes this system with good results, would like testers please!
Post by: bernie on November 19, 2009, 05:51:51 AM
Hi Joker,

I checked this out today at the casino. 

Start on dozen's 1 and 2 then go to dozen's 2 and 3 then back to 1 and 2  then 2 and 3.  Play like this every spin including after a zero.

After 72 spins I was up 50 units.  The highest step on the progression was step 3, 9 units.

I'm not recomending anyone play like this, I'm just presenting the results of today's session.
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Post by: VICLIMKS on November 23, 2009, 09:56:47 AM
guys,,,,,do u think this system works???