OK, here goes. One run through the numbers as that's all you would get if playing for real. First let me preface this by saying it certainly seems something is going on with this software. Many, many times it picks the number higher or lower or the number it picks just came or comes the next spin. I can't believe this is a random thing. Too many close calls and actual hits. We know you can guess single numbers all day long and not hit one, don't we. This program uses the Martingale Progression. The first results:
2/16/07 100 spins Hits on 38th, 63rd and 93rd spins. Profit 139 units.
TwoCatSam
(a two-cat man)
Hi Sam
Thanks for running this mate will look forward to the results! ;D
Keith
Keith
I have noticed something strange. You can't undo the last number input. If you make a mistake, you are up the creek. Any thoughts?
Sam
Hi Sam,
I assume you meant you CAN'T undo the last entry into the program if you make a mistake?
I found this very frustrating too and have asked the support team at ezesoftware what to do if this happens, they sent me the following reply:
As the program progresses the history has more effect, if you make an error in the first 5 spins the effect will be negligible, after this I would start again and input as much history as you can obtain.
I asked them if they were going to release an update to the software and if they could include an "undo" function. Also it would be nice to be able to input a figure for your bank rather then clicking up arrows for ages!
They said they took my comments on board :-\
Wee shall see if/when they release an update! Maybe its too complicated to "undo" the last entry in the software logic?
Its very annoying when you are testing I know as its happened to me too! >:( ;D
Good luck with the testing mate!
Of course I mean "can't" I fixed that.
That's what I was thinking, the software would have to stop and re-compute. This could be critical if one were betting real money. Might not have time to get all the numbers back in.
Not the time to click with reckless abandon, huh?
Sam
No your right its best to concentrate!
Especially if your 50+ spins down with no winner yet LOL ;D
More results
2/16/07 100 spins Hits on 38th, 63rd and 93rd spins. Profit 139 units.
2/17/07 Same Hits on 4 22 and 68 Profit 94 units. ..........my mind wandered so I quit on spin 80. I would do this.
1/20/07 Same Hits on 12 26 80 Profit 46 units
2/22/7 " 33 87 33
1/31/7 : 41 80 84 92
Session from hell 1/23/7 Lost 200 units
Still more results:
2/16/07 100 spins Hits on 38th, 63rd and 93rd spins. Profit 139 units.
2/17/07 Same Hits on 4 22 and 68 Profit 94 units. ..........my mind wandered so I quit on spin 80. I would do this.
1/20/07 Same its on 12 26 80 Profit 46 units
2/22/7 " 33 87 33
1/31/7 : 41 80 84 92
1/23/7 5 8 Session from hell <200 units>
2/2/7 33 Almost as bad. <166>
2/15/7 25 36 63 36
2/19/7 14 16 64 71 91
2/21/07 26 37 91 76
So we have a profit of 241 units for the trot of 1,000 spins.
This program seems to always hit in less than 36 spins except for the one time. I am wondering if I should start the program anew each time it hits or just keep putting in numbers.
Any ideas?
Sam
Live test from Suite332. Naturally, I hosed up on about the 30th spin and had to start over. Still made $34. Notice I was running two programs at once and they both picked 6. This is what I have called a "double advantage number".
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Sam
Hi Sam
Thanks for those results, and that pic of suite332. I love the quality of that camera showing the closeup of the wheel. MUCH better than DB eh!
As for the results well thats not the first time i've heard that 36 seems to be the optimum "bail out" point before starting afresh. I believe some other guys stop after 36 spins and start over, taking the loss.
Also I did think that the program got worse the longer the test and tried stopping it after every win and resetting but not sure it improved things much?
That "double advantage" thing you spoke of is interesting too was that the first time that the 2 programs "synchronised?"
Thanks again for your continued work on this system I for one appreciate it!
Keith
Yes it was.
Hmmm that might be worth monitoring then! ;)
Still more results:
2/16/07 100 spins Hits on 38th, 63rd and 93rd spins. Profit 139 units.
2/17/07 Same Hits on 4 22 and 68 Profit 94 units. ..........my mind wandered so I quit on spin 80. I would do this.
1/20/07 Same its on 12 26 80 Profit 46 units
2/22/7 " 33 87 33
1/31/7 : 41 80 84 92
1/23/7 5 8 Session from hell <200 units>
2/2/7 33 Almost as bad. <166>
2/15/7 25 36 63 36
2/19/7 14 16 64 71 91
2/21/07 26 37 91 76
6/19/8part 2 Riverbelle 52 97 134 193
Hi Sam,
Its a long shot but do you have records of the dealers for those sets of spins? Just wondering if those bad sessions are from certain dealers?
Wouldnt have been so bad if you had stopped after just the 1 win per session tho as every session got at least one win is that right?
Any more "double advantage" numbers cropped up or are you sticking to just one copy of RR running at the moment?
Keith
I am currently trying to land upon a field of study, as I am now pulled too many directions by too many ideas.
A direct answer is no, when I downloaded those numbers I was testing a system that does not depend on dealer signature. And look at this statement from Manque..."Do not believe in dealers' influence on the game, believe me: they don't have it." It's posted under Victor's notes.
I want to do less testing and get back to real gambling at Suite332 or Riverbelle. I like to gamble, record those numbers, and then spend a while running them through systems for testing.
Sam
Hi Sam,
I understand mate no problem I appreciate the testing you have done with RR already!
Good luck with your real gambling! You must have a fairly solid system you use and trust.
What do you use when playing for real mate?
You dont have to answer that if you think I'm being nosey! ;D
I'm going to use bj's "Last Six" and the Roulette Raid.
well good luck with those Sam!
Are you going to play RR as it comes "out of the box" or use the 36 spin rule?
I was thinking of flat betting with it and using 36 spins as a limit. Obviously the sooner the win the more profit you win!
I pm'd BJ for a copy of his prog so will take a look at that when I get it!
haven't decided....
Have now got the last 6 numbers program so will give that a go too! ;D
Just doing a test on DB now with RR and last 6
Already had FOUR wins with RR in 40 spins! This is one of my best ever tests with it! Shame its in demo ::)
The wins came like this:
Spin 7 (profit #25credits)
Spin 14 (Profit now stands at #58)
Spin 24 (profit now stands at #84)
Spin 40 (Profit now up to #104 credits!)
Thats starting with #1 credit stakes
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Using RR
Calling me travel agent!!
Sam
Awesome results sam!
From what I can see from that your betting on the number and its surrounding ones?
How is the money management doing it that way? Did you cover 6 numbers to get that win? Hard to see from that piccy! ;)
Keith
Keith
Glad you asked! This was a time when everything went wrong. I started with about #5000 and somewhere along the way, I used up my two hundred I put into RR and had to add more. Then I clicked the same number twice; very easy to do. So I decided to stick with it and see what happened.
I hit the #10 maximum per bet on Dublin and started surrounding the number RR picked by placing corner bets and splits using the number and neighbors. I hit enough near-bys to keep me afloat until the big hit of #1422 which got all my # back and put me up #200 for the fifty some-odd spins.
I also used the method I posted which no one liked and Carlo poked fun at (I took it down.) and did very well with it. When I say "very well" I mean I ground out a profit over the 53 + spins. It always does.
I am thinking about buying this RouletteRA as it is an analyzer.
Sam
Well done Sam.!
I think I'm just unlucky, because I can't seem to get a profit from RR. :-\
Hi Sam
Sounds great!
Yeah RA seems like a good little tool for testing sector based systems, do you think it would help you with the system your using here?
Keith
P.s R787 I thought you were doing OK with RR?
Keith
I'm sure it would be fun to play with, but I have too many irons in the fire as it is.
It'll be there in a month if I want it then!
Sam
Quote from: keith4444 on July 06, 2008, 07:08:30 PM
P.s R787 I thought you were doing OK with RR?
There are ups and downs, but the overall result is break-even.
Not really confident to put real-money on to it.
hello friends , anyone can email me the Key for roulette raid to make it full version plz?
Joesaliby@hotmail.com
thanks
Quote from: Roulette787 on July 06, 2008, 07:02:19 PM
Well done Sam.!
I think I'm just unlucky, because I can't seem to get a profit from RR. :-\
Reply about RR from kingspin.
No your not unlucky RR just plain sucks. Anyone who uses this software regular will loose a fortune. On real cash play i have won nothing and on fun chips am hundreds down. Honestly i think it is very bad software. A looser for sure....
Anyone now a good casino for Roulette Pro ? I used Roulette Pro 3 years ago at Platinum Play casino, i started with a deposit of 20$, got a bonus of 68$ (due to the freebonus preplay) and ended up at +3000$ before they decreased my bettinglimit from 250$ on simple chances to 80$ and the single numbers to a maximum of 10 $. that made my bankroll decrease to 1600$ before i decided to cashout. Since then i been looking for a casino with equal winrate. On Captain Cook it was something like it to start with but after i went from 100$ to +600$ betting on single numbers (one at a time) they closed the casino for maitenance right in front of me and when i logged in again i lost it all (including the 100$)