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Title: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 04, 2009, 10:37:20 AM
Hi guys.  gonna post a system i use when i go to brisbane and gold coast casinos. Used succesfully for about 10 years though not for everybody.  In this play there is no going up when you are losing, all flat stake bets on 4 numbers straight up.  Occassionally 5.  The numbers i play are Always the same colour that has just been spun.  so 29 black has been spun, the 4/5 numbers i am going tp play are all black  and if 19 red just was spun, my numbers are red.  Easy hey  but how do i pick the numbers.  Good question and if anybody read the jack wise book, they would know how mind blowing and brain graining his theories are.  You can in reality play clockwise  or counter clockwise from where the last number showed.  eg.  29 black showed  and you are playing counter clockwise so you next bet will be 22,31,20,33.  the only varience is if the next number which is 24 has shown in say the last 20 spins, play that as well.  The other thing ill say, if your going to play counter clockwise,  play that way forever.  never change as you will have quiet days but also massive days.  if you change, you may miss the huge days.  i usually plat about 38 spins in a session but that is not essential.  but when i get to 100 chips in profit, i give myself 5 more goes or approx 20 chips, if no more hits stop, but it can fire up and you can 200 up before you know it.  This is a great way to play as you only need to hit 4 out of 36 spins to be square pending on how may postion no. 5 you have played. There is a more advanced way to pick your numbers that works better and if anyone is interested, ill tell you no prob.  Please test on spielbank numbers to get the hang.  and work out for youself if it suits you.  Its the only way i know and i have done very well over a long period of time. Remember there are losing days and winning days so get and average over say 50 sessions.  I try to go 15 to 20 times a month and get a % of prfit over that time to give me an accurate result.  Monthly results not daily.  Anyway  good luck  steve
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 04, 2009, 10:45:20 AM
sorry and another thing.  If you go play live,  it will seem that every spin, the ball is landing inbetween your numbers so the opposite colour in the right area.  This will drive you insane if you let it. Just remember this is factered in. Dont start playing the inbetween numbers or placing 4 chips on the opposite colour, BEEN THERE DONE THAT. Makes no difference in the long run i can assure you. So if you have the patience and just play by the rules you will be successful. If the colourstays the same, you have a 1 in 4 and a half chance of hitting.  see ya ;)
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 04, 2009, 10:52:27 AM
Finally, with a little practise, choose your numbers this way.  keep a chart or use the scorebord on the wheel, try and find two numbers that have show going in either direction.  so 8 black has hit, do we go left or right.  we see previously that numbers 3,0,17,22,11 have shown previously so no,s  17 and 11 are within our 4 slot range so we head that way.  c, clock from 8 black.  Simple really but i like to be on the previously hit numbers well 2 at least with 2 no shows as well.  remember look to see if number 2 had shown as well, the 5 th black number from 8 going c lock.  if so, play it to.
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on November 04, 2009, 11:06:57 AM
Hi Robski,  ;)

I have dabbled with Old Ken's stuff in the past. Looked ok but yes those numbers hitting inbetween made me looking for other greener pastures. I might just now revisit this way of play.

Cheers mate
Jakk
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: sharp on November 04, 2009, 04:08:50 PM
Hi,

Thanks for sharing your system. Could i ask, is it best to bet 4 new numbers every spin or stick to the same numbers

thanks
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 04, 2009, 06:44:58 PM
Hi Sharp.  playing the same numbers really dosnt work but who know you may be lucky.  just pick your 4 after each spin going on finding 2 that have come up previously, or pick a direction and stay with it.  cc  or clockwise.  try it, you may be surprised.  good luck buddy
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 05, 2009, 03:35:07 AM
I see there is an area devoted to jack kennedy system.  He plays both c.clockwise  and clockwise as well as high and lows.  low being positions 1, 2, 3, 4.   high being   5,6,7,8.  you need a computer to play this way and it isnt much better than playin low positions all the time.  i.e   1,2,3,4,  with psition 5 being the variable.  If the number that is in slot 5 has shown within last 20 positions, play it.   Had a good day today,  walked into brisbane and found a table which would not have had a hit in 10 spins.  settles myself down and waited for a hit (just pretended to play).  went 22 spins then a hit. So i start to play and i played 28 spins hitting 7 times.   outlay of chips was 28 spins x 4  = 112 plus on 8 occassions i played position 5  so total out lay was 120 chips.   7 hits x 35 return =  175  so my profit was 55 chips.  Not outstanding but solid enough for an hours work.   steve
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: sharp on November 05, 2009, 06:16:01 AM
Hi Steve,

I played this system while using the GUT on real money dublin bet last night :) +53 units. I have also done a RX file for it and ran it with some acuals, seemed to preform ok too.

Above when you say high and lows, do you mean either play the first 4 numbers CW/ACW which are low or you can play the 4 after that which are high ?

Good Luck

Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 05, 2009, 06:29:49 PM
Yes Sharp thats what i mean.   high are positions 5 to 8 from the current number,  lows are positions 1 to 4 from current number.  remember to play the 5th position i.e  1,2,3,4,5,  when 5th number has shown in last 20 spins.  goos work on your win.  see ya later
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: bene126 on November 05, 2009, 06:56:03 PM
Hi.Robski or Sharp can you give me some example on this 50 numbers?


23
1
25
4
16
17
19
0
15
17
15
3
12
29
24
34
24
36
5
32
16
4
23
12
34
32
15
22
32
18
11
15
24
31
32
26
1
28
4
26
21
1
5
4
7
8
3
22
35
31
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 05, 2009, 09:33:10 PM
bene  going to work now, but as soon as i get in later, i will play each number and explain why i played it.   steve
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: sharp on November 05, 2009, 09:47:09 PM
QuoteHi.Robski or Sharp can you give me some example on this 50 numbers?


23
1
25
4
16
17
19
0
15
17
15
3
12
29
24
34
24
36
5
32
16
4
23
12
34
32
15
22
32
18
11
15
24
31
32
26
1
28
4
26
21
1
5
4
7
8
3
22
35
31

Hi here is how I would of played a few of them

Playing Clockwise, if you get a pic of the wheel in front of you, you should follow it easy. I play the next 4 on the wheel each time of the same color as the last landed number. If my selection crosses the 0 I dont play as the color changes from red to black or black to red so you would not be playing the same color as per the system. So on a loss I will be -4 units on a win +36 units.

23 - bet 5,16,1,14 (23 spins in and I bet the next 4 of same color clockwise and continue in this manner)
1 -  bet 14,9,18,7 - WIN +36
25 - lose - bet 34,27,36,30  
4 - lose - bet 2,17,6,13
16 - lose - bet 1,14,9,18
17 - lose - bet 6,13,11,8
19 - lose - bet 21,25,34,27
0 - lose - bet 15,4,2,17
15  - bet 4,2,17,6 - WIN +36
17 -  bet 6,13,11,8 - WIN +36
15 - lose - bet 4,2,17,6
3 - lose - crosses 0 no bet
12 - crosses 0 no bet
29 - crosses 0 no bet
24 - bet ,33,20,31,22
34 - lose - bet 27,36,30,23
24 - lose - bet 33,20,31,22
36 - lose - bet 30,23,5,16
5 - WIN -  +36 and I would finish my session here +100 UNITS.
32
16
4
23
12
34
32
15
22
32
18
11
15
24
31
32
26
1
28
4
26
21
1
5
4
7
8
3
22
35
31
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 06, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
hi guys. wont go through every number of the full 50 as that would take forever. will post the hits and explain how i came to choose those.  i also play the zero on every spin  i.e  if 28 black hit and i am playing clockwise, 0 becomes a black  and if im playing from 19 red c.clock   0 becomes a red.  hope that makes sence.  0 is both black and red when im passin through.  ill show you.  rather than playing clockwise or counter clock, i use previos numbers to determine my direction.  so if you go down to the 3rd black number that hit which was 15.   prev blacks wer 17 and 4 ok. so from 15 i look at the numbers and see 17 and 4 are both in side my hit zone in a clockwise direction so i play 4,2,17 and 6.  17 hits.   from ther i head straight back towards  15 and 4  both previous  so i play 2,4,15and 0 and 15 comes up again.so from there i will go back towatds 2,4,17 and six  but 3 comes out, i am a loser.    So from the last number hit  look back to previous numbers, either black or red pending which colour your playing,  the first 2 numbers to hit in the hit zone( within 5 slots of the current number) thats my direction.  gives an ever so slight better hit rate over time than just clockwise or counter.   Went for about 22 spins without a hit until 24 black arrives after 15.  so i look above and see 22 and 29 are my first 2 in my zone so i play 33,20,31.22,  and also 29 (position 5)  why  because looking back  no 29 has shows a fair way back  so i play 5 numbers on this spin.
31 obviously hits.   go down a few and 28 blck hits.   using the 26 and no 4 prev.  i play clockwise 35,26,0,15 and 4.   4 prev number so i go 5 numbers again.   4 hits.    i then head back to 26 and 28  prev numbers and play 15,0,26,35,28 also.  (28
prev number just came out) 26 hits.
so tnhat is how i make my direction decision.   There is 2 more hits further down, try and work out which ones they are.
will post some more over the weekend.  rooted now. :girl_wacko:
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: bene126 on November 06, 2009, 07:23:07 PM
And can i play it on online casino?
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: sharp on November 06, 2009, 08:09:13 PM
Personally i dont play RNG wheels, i play online live dealer wheels.
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 07, 2009, 03:49:34 AM
Hi Bene, you can play online so long as its a real wheel like spielbank.  I think thats real.  In saying that, i only ever play live in the actual casino.  Another thing i will mention is once you can pick your numbers fairly quickly, when i go in to the casino, i use the scoreboard and quickly work out how i would be going if i played the 15 or so numbers which are on the board.  If i find a table where i would have had no hits, i sit and wait for a hit to occur.Not playing, just mentally playing those numbers.  If you are lucky enough to find a gap of 15 or more losers, I wait for a hit and play from there solid through 50 numbers taking of the pretend ones i played.  S0 no hit for 18 spins, hits on 19 spin ,  I play the remaining 31 spins.  By doing this consistantly,  your win rate goes even higher.  Sometimes, you shy away from tables that have hits everywhere and they keep hitting.  Thats all part of the mental conumdrum i suppose.    steve
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: Rocky on November 07, 2009, 06:45:23 AM
G'day robski

Don't know if it was you, but over time I've certainly seen  a few play similar to this in Brisbane. They were certainly successful, though most times playing 8 numbers or so. Still every time they were making a packet. Now I know the basis of their play. Thanks for sharing, who knows may see you in there one day.

All The Best

Rocky
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 07, 2009, 09:11:09 AM
Sure Rocky that would be great.  You dont own a car yard on the southside of brisbane by any chance.  May be a different rocky.   I have played 8 numbers in the past but it isnt as profitable as 4 or 5.  the periods of no hits just wipe you.  You can play that way but over much shorter periods  ie 3 or 4 spins and continue if hitting and stop if your not.  My problem is the stopping part.  LOL   take care steve
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: Rocky on November 07, 2009, 10:57:47 AM
Hi robski

My name is David, nickname was Rocky when younger, looked liked him a bit, had a few altercations while playing League, there was a few fights in the scrums in those days.

Anyway, that was a while ago, very peaceful now, will be there, in Brissie during most days this coming week, may see you, if in town robski.

All the best

Dave
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: Rocky on November 07, 2009, 12:37:59 PM
 Just did a test on numbers taken from live wheel on the 30/10/09.

After tracking for 16 spins to get my first hit (on paper) played the next 52 spins taking the first 4 same coloured numbers clockwise (and adding zero if in that area when called for).  Would have won around 214 ($5 chips on this table), that's $1070 for 2 hours work!  WOW!!! It hit within 5 spins of first hit, only needing a b/r of 20 units for this session, recording 10 winning hits over 52 spins!
                         Pretty Good!!!

I'LL KEEP TESTING,   THANKS VERY MUCH  for this system ROBSKI  !!!

IT LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTY MATE !!!
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: sharp on November 07, 2009, 07:21:50 PM
You can read more about this system here:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/jack-kennedy-sqaure-ro-let-system-sounds-incredible/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/jack-kennedy-sqaure-ro-let-system-sounds-incredible/)

There is also a 13 chapter pdf doc you can download to learn the ins and outs of the system.

Good Luck :)
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: robski on November 07, 2009, 07:31:21 PM
Thats great david.  you will not regret learning this.  Just remember that some days there are heaps of colour changes which means you can hit those and also lots of highs spins, meaning eg  19 red going to 5 red on other side of the wheel, we cant hit those either.  Take em in your stride remembering that is just part of it.  Also if you go in and moniter a table, it pays to find one and wait for pretend play losses of 10 or more, wait for that table to have its first pretend hit, sometimes goes to 20, then play from there.  when and if I get 100 chips up in a session, I then give myself say 20 chips or 5 more spins then stop.  go have a drink and start elsewhere.  Sometimes you go from winning 80 chips to 250.  Its a great safe way to play.   ohh  and the losses are generally small this way  but the wins can be huge.  Im going in for lunch today with family as treasury sent me a 100 food voucher.  God bless them.  lol
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: insidebet on November 07, 2009, 08:49:09 PM
Hi,
Sharp said he wrote a RX programm for this system.  Can't find it.  Does anyone have it?  Where can I find it?.

Done about 1000 spins manually.  Works great so far.  But, as ususal, this really means nothing.  The samlpe needs to be at least twenty times bigger to be significant.
Insidebet
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: sharp on November 08, 2009, 12:24:24 PM
Hi inside bet,

I am currently finishing off the RX file, have made some changes to it since reading the PDF file on this system. Currently the RX file will wait for a win in either Low direction before betting in that direction, it will also keep track of wins CC and ACW and change the betting to the most dominant. Im just finishing off adding tracking to the High and Low numbers so the program will bet the most dominant of those as well.

Currently the RX file in its present state averages a win every 9.2 spins which is just not quite good enough, im hoping that adding in tracking the the H and L positions will swing that number into the players favor. When the file is finished i will post it in the down loads section.

Sharp
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: Matilda on November 10, 2009, 02:27:03 AM
Hi Robski  $ Rocky,
Hi I am Matilda I play at Jupiters mainly.  Have been to Brissy only twice.  There are a few of us Aussies on
this forum.

One of the mods is an Aussie.  Mate of mine named Lanky.

Will have a look at your system.  Thanks for posting.

Matilda
:drinks:

Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: shadowman on November 10, 2009, 04:29:48 AM
Hey Sharp

I studied this a few years ago, as I understand it the whole thing is based upon the movement of the ball from spin to spin.  I wonder if you are using actuals on RX or rng, because rng will not work with this system. which could be why your code is not working as well as it should.

Mike
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: sharp on November 10, 2009, 06:17:20 AM
Hi Shadowman,

I dont play RNG, only live wheels such as Dublin Bet.  I have used the system 4 times now with real money and it always does well, also its a very low pressure way to play with really no chance of blowing your bankroll.

I like this system :)

As with the program for RX, i use acuals to test. The program works fine, however thats a very mechanical way to play and i think this kind of system needs a bit of gamblers common sense, something that you cant program.

I have also found that waiting for a win before betting or starting betting on highs, lows, CW or CC makes no difference to the system. The RX program keeps track of the highs, lows and CW and CC and bets with the most dominant at any time. Still testing at the moment, but not sure if that makes a difference yet.

Im still not convinced that this is a system that can be mechanically successful as i believe it needs a bit of Gamblers intelligence to really shine.

But wow great system, love playing it.
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: Rocky on November 10, 2009, 11:37:55 AM
Hi Matilda

Great to hear from you, yes I have spoken to Lanky before through other forum ( me with different name), he's is a good bloke.

l 've played at Jupiters a few times. Can you confirm Matilda, I've been told the croupiers throw the ball at incredible speed all the time.

Also when the new tables came in Jan in Bris, also at the some time, smiliar tables were introduced at Crown in Melbourne. The players refused to play at them and so they had to bring back the old tables there. There is still one old table in Bris, with $10 min inside bet on indiv numbers. Jupiters seems to cater for high rollers predominately, there seem to be only a few roulette tables on the main gambling floor. Am I wrong, or is there another area I'm not aware of? I hope to get down there more.

Thanks for your help Matilda, all the best.

Rocky
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: shadowman on November 10, 2009, 01:37:21 PM
Sharp

Interesting what you say about gamblers intelligence,  I suspect that this is also quantifiable if you explore it a little deeper.  If you are confident that the system works with "gamblers intelligence" then I reckon that you should be able to code it.  Of course that probably sounds easier than it really is.  I would be interested to know what you think

Mike

Oh by the way, to whoever created the avatar for me,  Thanks, it looks great.
Title: Re: JACK WISE KENNEDY SPINOFF.
Post by: xman1970 on November 10, 2009, 04:58:14 PM
Quote from: shadowman on November 10, 2009, 01:37:21 PM

Oh by the way, to whoever created the avatar for me,  Thanks, it looks great.



HeHeHeHeHeHe LMAO.....

Yep Shadowman that avatar is just about perfect for you  :good: