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Title: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: lucky_strike on June 25, 2008, 03:03:43 AM
Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point methodology at its best

I want to know more about Manrique´s phylosophy!

Can you pm me hes email or has he done any writing on internet.

Cheers LS
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: VLSroulette on June 25, 2008, 03:54:33 AM
Manrique passed away this year 2008. :'( his writings are incomplete but his main phylosopy is there.

After I'm done with all of the forum configurations I intend to translate his writings into english as an homage. You'll see I share many concepts with him and YOU lucky do too.

Automated translation a la babelfish does not make justice, it needs human-based translation coming from a roulette player to understand the terms and the subtle twists phrases may have beyond literal "word-by-word" translation, so I think I'm qualified to perform the task and I'm totally willing to do so. He is a "parachuter at large", but his roulette phylosophy can benefit both parachuters and those who don't use such a methodology as well.

Although incomplete, his writings have helped many to understand the game. Manrique, wise man, he was looking for 1% of lifetime bankroll per session...
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: VLSroulette on June 25, 2008, 04:40:51 AM
Hello Lucky, thanks for your enthusiasm. It is a very powerful incentive for me to translate!

I have started a thread for Manrique at my notes, you can visit it here:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=1305.0 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=1305.0)

It is raw/first translation and later versions may be prettier as revisions come for them to leave the notes to the gambling framework (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?board=23.0) section.

Enjoy! For those who play roulette (the game, not strictly the device) Manrique's writings are a treasure, you'll see.

Your friend,
Victor
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: lucky_strike on June 25, 2008, 05:58:11 AM

HI Victor I just want more and more of hes writings, love it, use it, take it by heart...

a) But I'm not just giving it all away to those who want it served without studying

b) Do not believe in dealers' influence on the game, believe me: they don't have it.

c) Do not use violent progressions, the moment for a bad streak to take it all away always has to come.

d) Pose strategies based on micro-games.

e) Think in terms of financial profitability, winning 1% daily is a fortune, you can contrast it by simply proyecting such cummulative profits throughout a span of time of, say, 6 months.

f) Have as much bankroll as possible but be certain if you lose it wouldn't mean a catastrophe.

::) 8) ;) :) :D

Cheers LS
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: Lohnro on June 25, 2008, 06:39:07 AM
Thanks for translating Manrique's posts Victor, should be a good read!!
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: TwoCatSam on June 25, 2008, 09:40:08 AM
"Do not believe in dealers' influence on the game, believe me: they don't have it."

OK, this man writes the above.  I yearn to have an honest and open debate about this.  One that looks into all aspects of the idea of dealer influence/signature.

Sam
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: VLSroulette on June 25, 2008, 10:46:25 AM
@Lucky & Lohnro

I'm glad you appreciate it.

@Samster

QuoteI yearn to have an honest and open debate about this.

I'm going to give you my view:

- If you are considering roulette as a purely mechanical device, then you must factor-in direct actions from the dealer into your equations ( i.e. release point and ball speed; adding them to rotor speed, dominant diamond, ball scatter... ) and hence: the dealer DOES have an effect in your play/game.

- If you are considering roulette as a timeline of events attached to numbers and numerical groups themselves, using hardcore probability calculations based on the many/several tries computations and statistics ( considering: concentration/dispersion of numerical events, standard deviation, balance/imbalance, roulette timeline's methodology.. ) then the dealer has no influence in your game. In this framework, what occurs to your play/game is taken as direct consequence of mathematics and probability, hence the dealers' influence can be desestimated: as a dealer can't hit an exact number at will, "Everything which must happen will happen". So under this light, he has no considered influence and a trained monkey is just as valid.

Victor
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: TwoCatSam on June 25, 2008, 10:53:07 AM
Victor

I will give much thought to your words.  I will factor in all I know from what I have been told on forums, in person and by dealers.  I will then be just as confused!!

Sam
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: Spike on June 28, 2008, 08:10:17 PM
Every new dealer throws a different game from the last dealer. If it all looks the same to you its because you don't know how to look at it properly. Its like paintings, they all look the same to the untrained eye. An expert can tell one artist from another easily.
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: Kimo Li on June 28, 2008, 11:59:07 PM
Here's a twist:

Why not incorporate both approaches?

Kimo Li
Title: Re: Manrique's phylosophy of gambling has an implementation of cut-point...
Post by: Carlitos on July 05, 2008, 02:33:55 PM
...............only when the circumstances are right then a dealer or therefor an VB player is able to hit an sector or predict an sector. And that does not happen all the time.


If the ball hits an diamant above the 9 and 22 then jumps to above 6 and 34 jumps back and falls in the pocket 4, does the dealer or Vb player had any influence?


Could they have for seen this?





Carlitos  8)