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Title: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on November 22, 2009, 03:37:40 PM
Bet 1 chip on number 1. Should you lose then you will remove this bet and bet 1 chip on number 2 two times, should you lose again then you will remove this bet and bet 3 times on number 3 , if this loses then you remove this bet and bet 4 times on number 4 , carry on doing this until a win , working up through the numbers in numerical order this way,  usually by number 14 a win has hit.    :good:
A single number progression that is not to aggressive gives a profit every time...
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on November 23, 2009, 08:50:02 AM
it will work if you have a sufficient bank ballance and dont go over the table limit, i think thats where you will come unstuck on that 1 long streak you miss all the numbers
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on December 05, 2009, 05:15:01 PM
I am trying to loose using this method but so far i have not lost a progression. This is a very good bet.  :good:
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on December 05, 2009, 05:17:12 PM
Hi
What is the furthest number you have got to before a win mate?
The Spiders Kiss
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on December 05, 2009, 05:38:44 PM
 The first part of the  single number progression is here , play exactly as I show , the first set of bets will be 1 chip on each number as I explained until you reach the end of the count on number 7 , EG - so once you have bet 7 times on number 7 the time has come now  to raise the bet to 2 chips starting on number 8 .  I will post the other parts of the progression later as I am working a big progression out that I believe can not lose or at least loses very rarely. Spider the highest I have got to so far is number 18 and that happened only once. Most wins seem to hit by number 12 usually.  I make money from this system get a big bankroll coupled with a fairly modest progression and you have a sound bet here, I have played this bet a lot but I can't say over how many spins it would take to lose a long progression.
Part 2 of the progression , the chip level is raised to 3 chips at the sixth of  the count on number 9.
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on December 05, 2009, 06:01:47 PM
Hi Kingspin
Thank you for the reply.I look forward to the rest of your posts.
TSK
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Mike.OFF on December 05, 2009, 11:05:55 PM
VERY VERY interested in your system
Thanks for sharing!

RX tests anyone???  :clapping:
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on December 05, 2009, 11:21:58 PM
If i have my calculations right on the 7th stage of no7 you will have bet 28 units, so, that will be a 7 unit profit, if you win on 1st stage of first bet 35 unit profit?,
after number 7 you go to 2 units until the betted amount excedes the amount you will win? then you go to 3 units?
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Mike.OFF on December 05, 2009, 11:36:00 PM
№1 - 1
№2 - 1,1
№3 - 1,1,1
№4 - 1,1,1,1
№5 - 1,1,1,1,1
№6 - 1,1,1,1,1,1
№7 - 1,1,1,1,1,1,1
№8 - 1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2
№9 - 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2
№10 - 2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3
№11 - 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4
№12 - 4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,5,5,5,5
№13 - 6,6,6,6,6,6,7,7,7,7,7,8,8
№14 - 8,8,9,9,9,9,10,10,10,11,11,11,11,12
№15 - 12,13,13,13,14,14,14,15,15,16,16,17,17,18,18
№16 - 19,19,20,20,21,22,22,23,24,24,25,26,27,27,28,29

Approx. $1000 if lose... :(
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on December 05, 2009, 11:47:04 PM
interesting, how far does the progression get to, and taking table limit into account
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Davey-Jones on December 06, 2009, 12:06:56 AM
If you are going to play one number, why not just play one hot number? Or does that make too much sense?
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Mr J on December 06, 2009, 02:10:00 AM
It would be more than 1K. I'm wrong if your min. bet is only $1. Ken
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on December 06, 2009, 07:18:47 AM
In my own extensive playing sessions number 14  will be for over 95% of games be the highest number you reach before a win , it's amazing how many wins can come in even at numbers 1 - 6.  You should be able to walk away with some profit in your pocket in over 95% of games. Just playing with 50p chips on dublin bet rng i have won over £300 in 2 days.
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on December 06, 2009, 07:45:54 AM
Quote from: Kingspin on December 06, 2009, 07:18:47 AM
In my own extensive playing sessions number 14  will be for over 95% of games be the highest number you reach before a win , it's amazing how many wins can come in even at numbers 1 - 6.  You should be able to walk away with some profit in your pocket in over 95% of games. Just playing with 50p chips on dublin bet rng I have won over £300 in 2 days.

See if you can get past 2-3k by then the rng monster normally chews up 95% of its victims
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: bene126 on December 06, 2009, 07:47:31 AM
Kingspin this is the system which about we were talking yesterday?
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on December 06, 2009, 07:53:21 AM
Some evil rng's like ladbrokes for instance which i think is one hell of a nasty  rng the furthest number i have reached is number 14. I don't suggest for one minute that anyone playing this method should play  past number 11.  By the end of the count on number 11 you will have won the vast majority of times any way, plus if you was very unlucky and lost at the end of count 11 the chance of winning the losses back is realistic.  One guy just posted a message saying why not just bet on a hot number , well all i have to say is that if you want to play it that way then by all means please do.  In the meantime i am happy making an hundred a day with this system , i just made another £100 this morning. :)
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on December 06, 2009, 08:09:03 AM
You would be better playing this system on a rapid roulette real wheel. If some thing works pretty good on rng then it should even better on a real wheel in my opinion. I recommend a real wheel , like i always say rng is play at your peril sort of thing.. When playing for real money on rng then the rng software could start a bet scan and intentionally  start to light up numbers with no bets on. Does it do this , well the answer is without question- yes rng does intentionally throw loosing numbers....
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on December 06, 2009, 08:09:58 AM
 Reply to bene 126 the answer is  no. ;D
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on December 06, 2009, 08:14:24 AM
I think the progression mikeoff just posted is too conservative , like i said the progression should be played as i put in my earlier post , at number 8 it is important to increase the bet to 2 chips.
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Mike.OFF on December 06, 2009, 10:28:45 AM
Tried this system with fun money.

After a few wins went to №16 and 25 per nubmer bet... and WON!  ;D
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on December 06, 2009, 11:03:11 AM
Ok here is the final system as i am pretty sure is the best way to play.  I honestly think this system works better on rng (thats providing the rng is not cheating).   On real wheels at over 1 spin per minute it simply becomes too long winded sitting  what can seems like ages  and waiting for wins on a bad session means a miscount could happen - trying to keep number counts over long time period means mistakes will happen, i would not personally play it on  a real wheel. A miscount screws the system up big time this i have proved a few times.  So the best way to play is on rng up to the last count on number 11 so you will quit at number 12. The most wins come before number 12 so it's much easier to win back a lost progression. I am sure players will win more than they loose with this system.  :D
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on December 06, 2009, 11:20:21 PM
code it into a bot, no human error and you can just walk away and leave it once you adjust the settings
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jeromin on January 03, 2010, 11:47:39 PM
Quote from: Davey-Jones on December 06, 2009, 12:06:56 AM
If you are going to play one number, why not just play one hot number? Or does that make too much sense?

I thought the same thing. Is there any value in starting form number one on, other than to avoid mistakes? Is it because they're all in the same dozen? Then maybe one can pick 11 numbers from the dozen containing the most repeats in say, the last 30 spins, and start with the most repeated numbers in that dozen.
Then again, the sequence 1-2-3, etc. would contain a random group of both hot and cold numbers, but so would any randomly picked dozen or column. How often does a dozen sleep for over 11 spins? How about picking a sleeping dozen/column? or a hot one?

So much to test, and it takes forever. 

Jeromin

Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: No More Bets on January 04, 2010, 07:49:21 AM
Quote from: Kingspin on December 06, 2009, 07:53:21 AM
Some evil rng's like ladbrokes for instance which I think is one hell of a nasty  rng

Oh no you didn't.      :nono:

Ladbrokes plc is a British based betting & gaming company listed on the FTSE 100 Index.

They are the UK's largest off-track bookmaker with 2000+ retail outlets in the UK, Ireland and Belgium.

Ladbrokes holds betting and gaming licences in the UK and Gibraltar and offers sports bets, online poker and casino.

They are consistent, and their easy access to your funds gives me great confidence in recommending them to anyone.

Their RNG is fair, their operation is above repute.

They are a respected, multi million pound BM operation with integrity and way too much to lose.

So, don't even...

Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Allin on January 04, 2010, 09:35:35 AM
Hi KingSpin,

      Is it still working, do you think its worth to test.?

Regards
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on January 04, 2010, 10:24:37 AM
Quote from: Allin on January 04, 2010, 09:35:35 AM
Hi KingSpin,

     Is it still working, do you think its worth to test.?

Regards


ofcourse it works lol, just get a big enough bankroll and hold your breath, i tried this system, but i played it with 10 numbers at once, lots more exciting
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Allin on January 04, 2010, 10:30:36 AM
Hmmm if it works why need to " hold our breath".....:-P.  OK let me test n post the results.
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on January 04, 2010, 10:35:15 AM
Quote from: Allin on January 04, 2010, 10:30:36 AM
Hmmm if it works why need to " hold our breath


because you watch your money slowly drain away...more and more and more and you never know when the win will come
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Allin on January 04, 2010, 11:38:39 AM
Not sure why but it is pretty inconsistent with Random.org 

Tried upto 11th number progression.

Session (1) spins (10K) Final result 420$
Session (2) spins (10K) Final result 657$
Session (3) spins (10K) Final result -477$

My biggest draw down was -1400, but later it recovered. :scratch_ones_head: :scratch_ones_head: :scratch_ones_head:

Regards
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on January 04, 2010, 11:46:47 AM
Quote from: Allin on January 04, 2010, 11:38:39 AM
Not sure why but it is pretty inconsistent with Random.org 

Tried upto 11th number progression.

Session (1) spins (10K) Final result 420$
Session (2) spins (10K) Final result 657$
Session (3) spins (10K) Final result -477$

My biggest draw down was -1400, but later it recovered. :scratch_ones_head: :scratch_ones_head: :scratch_ones_head:

Regards


would you like to play a system watching your money go down down down? then maybe up, try kingspins roulette bingo it has great reviews
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Allin on January 04, 2010, 11:54:38 AM
Hmmm we should not let them down, they are giving their best to get some new ideas, we should encourage them. I give him big  :clapping: :clapping: for his ideas.

Good try my dear friend.

Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on January 06, 2010, 02:17:31 PM
Yes this system is a snail grail.  Have a  Bigish bankroll play on small stake live wheel and you win every time. I never lost a session to date , only problem is I don't have the patience.  You can be sat waiting over an hour for the number to hit which it always does.  One reason it works really good this method is because you are targeting a single dozen with many of bets.  ::)

Just laughing at the guy who says ladbrokes rng is fair.  ;D

Many guys have lost a fortune at that rng.

I am not saying ladbrokes are cheats , not for one minute.

Just the software they use on there rng is highly suspect. No one could convince me other wise.
Cheating software without any question ."mr ladbrokes protector".  >:D
The way the software at ladbrokes plays against the player especially on red black betting shows to me that the rng is switching in losing bets and is not true honest random event.  If any bill gates computer expert was to delve into how rng's tick I am sure they would agree that rng can cheat.
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Allin on January 07, 2010, 08:23:18 AM
Hmmm I disagree though, RNG just a Random number generator in timely fashion.  But real wheel generate the same combination with some additional time(sometimes it takes days to get certain combination, but eventually they will come).

Another reason why RNG you lose faster is that it is in your control.  You can spin 10 numbers in a minute time, But where as in real wheel 10spins will take 10 minutes or more.

:pleasantry: RNG you lose your entire bankroll in days
Real wheel you lose your entire  bankroll in weeks
Real wheel shorter sessions you lose your entire  bankroll in months :pleasantry:

Thats the Moral of this roulette.


Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on January 07, 2010, 08:56:13 AM
Yes also RNG is TRUE, 37 numbers picked at total random on the other hand real wheel is open to many variations, humans, manufacturing, warping, ball velocity, spin, drop height.....
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on January 08, 2010, 11:23:39 AM
Quote from: Davey-Jones on December 06, 2009, 12:06:56 AM
If you are going to play one number, why not just play one hot number? Or does that make too much sense?

I was under the impression that hot numbers do not exist, each spin is random, individual, alone, solo...etc etc
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Davey-Jones on January 08, 2010, 07:54:03 PM
Not true. Hot and cold numbers do exist. It's knowing the reasons why they exist that is important. Sometimes numbers are hot for a reason. Cold numbers can be cold for a reason too.
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on January 08, 2010, 11:42:18 PM
Quote from: Davey-Jones on January 08, 2010, 07:54:03 PM
Not true. Hot and cold numbers do exist. It's knowing the reasons why they exist that is important. Sometimes numbers are hot for a reason. Cold numbers can be cold for a reason too.

Davey, I have never come across one single formula that can accurately predict a hot number, some can predict some of the hot numbers but the times it fails you lose chunks of your bankroll. You say there are reasons numbers could be hot or cold, we should have a chat about it sometime. Although... some claim to have the formula but on this site there are alot of claims, so many people say they have this and that but never offer stone cold proof, perhaps its ego
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Kingspin on February 08, 2010, 02:07:09 PM
 
The progression I now use is this one below. So far I have not lost a progression. Should you lose all bets in the progression then you lose 416 chips.
You win 93 out of every 100 progressions.
spin   bet
1   1
2   1
3   1
4   1
5   1
6   1
7   1
8   1
9   1
10   1
11   1
12   1
13   1
14   1
15   1
16   1
17   1
18   1
19   1
20   1
21   1
22   1
23   1
24   2
25   2
26   2
27   2
28   2
29   2
30   2
31   2
32   2
33   2
34   2
35   2
36   2
37   2
38   2
39   2
40   2
41   2
42   2
43   3
44   3
45   3
46   3
47   3
48   3
49   3
50   3
51   3
52   3
53   3
54   3
55   4
56   4
57   4
58   4
59   4
60   4
61   4
62   4
63   4
64   5
65   5
66   5
67   5
68   5
69   5
70   5
71   6
72   6
73   6
74   6
75   6
76   6
77   7
78   7
79   7
80   7
81   7
82   8
83   8
84   8
85   8
86   9
87   9
88   9
89   9
90   10
91   10
92   10
93   10
94   11
95   11
96   11
97   12
98   12
99   12
Bet as follows up to number 13. Never bet past number 13. The losses are massive if you go much past 13.
Bet
spin   bet
1   1.
2   11.
3   111.
4   1111.
5   11111.
6   111111.
7   1122222.
8   22222222.
9   222222333.
10   3333333334.
11   44444444555.
12   555566666677.
13   777888899991010.
r li
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: Jish on February 09, 2010, 01:22:44 AM
Quote from: Kingspin on February 08, 2010, 02:07:09 PM

So far I have not lost a progression.
Looks good!

Quote from: Kingspin on February 08, 2010, 02:07:09 PM
You win 93 out of every 100 progressions.
ey?
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: MATTJONO on April 09, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
Quote from: roolette on April 05, 2010, 07:29:26 AM
thats a bullshit system, ive just done this now, I started from 0 ended at 36 and diddnt win once, I think you might need shooting for suggesting this!



I disagree,

its a geat idea for a system...... I suppose its how good you are at choosing your numbers to bet some players will have better techniques to choosing the numbers to bet. (not saying i have just that kingspin could play this and never ever lose in his life.

mattjono
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: shishir on April 22, 2010, 03:58:10 AM
this sys of bettin is a  :-* idea.
what if u touch the upper limit ????
and that is the prob in mech.  roulette very much.
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet. Bet for no need pay for it
Post by: RouletteRoy on April 26, 2010, 08:45:58 AM
Better still,

Bet 3 on 1-19
bet 2 on 25-36
bet 1 on 16 and 19 between.
most of the time no win no lost, and win 18 when 16 of 19
u can put 1 on 4 number in between 20,21-23-24

or increase bet 6 on 1-19
bet 4 on 25-36
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: lommelaartje on April 29, 2010, 07:18:57 PM
I tested this system with play money on an RNG-wheel. After 15min, playing €1 chips, i eventually won +€109.
The four wins: number 9 - 9 - 8 - 5.

Very quick results, but it's play money...
Title: Re: Experiment single number bet.
Post by: lommelaartje on May 02, 2010, 05:40:22 PM
Anyone still playing this system succesfully without a loss in the long run?