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Roulette System Development & Testing => Testing Zone => Topic started by: roberge on December 19, 2009, 04:34:35 PM

Title: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: roberge on December 19, 2009, 04:34:35 PM
Hola!
Well, I'd like to test a new system that seems like a wining system mathematically, a simple progression based on the theory of  random permutations

and the only test I made so far is very encouraging , check for yourselves.   


The test was made with each spin manually activated, in 3 sessions, I made a gain of almost 3000 units  (0.    6unit per spin).   

Is there anybody willing to help me create a bot so I can test it on 50000 and 500000 spins?
Title: Re: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: bene126 on December 19, 2009, 04:56:39 PM
Can you post your system?I will try code it if your system is not so hard for me to code it. :)
Title: Re: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: roberge on December 19, 2009, 07:13:35 PM
Sure, Well it's quite simple actually
bet on a single number with this progression:
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 , 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,  3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 ,4 ,4 , 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11, 12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15, 15, 16, 16, 17, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57. 
(2060 units – 157 chances of getting the number right)

Now the tricky part is to know how to choose ur numbers, on the example above I was choosing the numbers with the best  (Last appearence interval)/(number of appearence )  ratio.   Watch 150 spins without betting if this is ur first bet. 
Can I count on u Bene? :)







Also we should test the Less risky progressions:
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 , 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,  3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, STOP
(105 units – 64 chances of getting the number right)

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 , 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,  3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 ,4 ,4 , 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, STOP
(207 units – 85 chances of getting the number right)

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 , 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,  3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 ,4 ,4 , 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, STOP
(310 units  – 98 chances of getting the number right)

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 , 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,  3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 ,4 ,4 , 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11, 12, 12, 12, STOP
(409 units  – 107 chances of getting the number right)

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 , 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,  3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 ,4 ,4 , 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11, 12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15, 15, 16, 16, 17, 17, STOP
(560 units  – 117 chances of getting the number right)
Title: Re: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: Silver Fox on December 19, 2009, 07:23:52 PM
thats all very well...but what about the table limit? for instance... at dublinbet the limit is 10 euro on a single number  :(
Title: Re: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: roberge on December 19, 2009, 09:16:07 PM
 nut the minimum surely ain't 1. .  or is it?

if it is than there's ur progression.
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 , 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,  3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 ,4 ,4 , 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, STOP  (340 units played - 101 chances)

Check the curve, u would have lost around 7 times in 5000 spins.  Still u would have won around 600 units.


PS: note that that I got 2. 671% success rate.  While the odds of wining on a number is 2. 703%.  Technically, I could get luckier.
Title: Re: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: Ulysses on December 19, 2009, 09:40:07 PM
roberge
Looks to be interesting your system. The dummy brain of mine can't fathom your graph results, take the last big dip on the graph. It drops from 3200 units down to 1200 a loss of 2000 and then recovers back in profit growth to 3300. Never understood graphs that well, can you explain how this went, like I said, I am very interested in this type of system. Thanks Uly

EDIT
Sorry roberge I didn't read all of the post fully. You bet 57 and returned the profit back. Which I wonder what would the progression continue past 157 spins? I've had numbers not appear for 350 spins. Does happen. What if one of dose occured? You'd be crying your self to sleep every night for a week. But I have hope that you can do it. Uly
Title: Re: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: roberge on December 20, 2009, 05:02:01 AM
Well even if I lost, I would have also made profit.  However I should have started with at least 1000units, cuz I could have crashed at spin #2013.

u can continue betting after 57, but u gotta jump a number each times, then two. 
.  .  .  57, 59, 61, 63, 65, 68, 71, 74, 77 etc. 
but I wouldn't advise that, + I wouldn't advise anyone to play this system on other than the 0.  25$ chips, risking 2060$ is just suicide.   This system needs to be properly tested anyway. 


(additional 2000 spins update)

Title: Re: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: Ulysses on December 20, 2009, 10:10:12 AM
yes, 0.25$ chips would be ok, and for those non US players could play/test on 0.10$ chips. Its potential is extremely good. Someone needs to create the bot you need for this. A slow burner, but thats the best type of strategy for winning consistently.
Title: Re: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: roberge on December 21, 2009, 12:09:33 AM
So can somebody plz code this so we can seriously test it?? It is just a simple progression!! (use random numbers)

Updated to 10000 manual spins.

Some interesting statistics (I also attached the whole txt session):

# = Number spinned
N = Number of times the Interval is bigger than 157   
A = Number of appearance
I = Maximum Interval

#   N   A   I
1   2   293   289
2   4   229   27
3   3   260   252
4   0   269   155
5   3   265   253
6   3   216   207
7   3   287   302
8   4   292   226
9   2   254   205
10   2   274   194
11   2   282   234
12   2   285   219
13   2   266   187
14   2   247   189
15   3   285   165
16   2   302   225
17   2   272   229
18   6   244   247
19   1   252   209
20   4   269   235
21   5   260   247
22   6   280   295
23   8   263   256
24   0   270   153
25   3   270   218
26   0   281   157
27   3   265   238
28   4   295   249
29   4   255   232
30   6   267   255
31   2   293   192
32   5   259   325
33   1   268   213
34   3   269   225
35   1   266   163
36   1   281   167
0   0   293   129

Title: Re: NEED HELP IN TESTING A PROMISSING SYSTEM!!!
Post by: Gaza001 on December 21, 2009, 03:35:03 PM
Here's the graph.  Note it's about 4000 spins,

All my numbers are from live roulette .com,

From 28/9/08 to 12/10/08 24 hours a day  recorded on sky

Go to downloads Roulette Xtreme Code Gaza 1 number to repeat

bet on a single number with this progression:
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 ,1 , 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,  3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 ,4 ,4 , 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11, 12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15, 15, 16, 16, 17, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57. 


in 10 mins!!!

I  hope this helped..   :thumbsup: