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Title: Two dozens
Post by: kattila on December 28, 2009, 12:49:42 PM
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Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: WARRIOR on December 29, 2009, 10:48:59 PM
WHAT KIND OF PROGRESSION ARE YOU USING.
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: cabbage on December 29, 2009, 11:19:56 PM
Quote from: WARRIOR on December 29, 2009, 10:48:59 PM
WHAT KIND OF PROGRESSION ARE YOU USING.

1+1 + 3+3 + 9+9 + 27+27 = 80

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I like to flat bet for 4 spins, and if lose, up the units to 2 on each next round, and reset back down to 1 on each when I've recoverd back to previous highest point... a grinder for sure... but a safer bet.
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: WARRIOR on December 30, 2009, 12:20:50 AM
THANKS CABBAGE .
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: kattila on December 30, 2009, 01:16:16 PM
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Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: cabbage on December 30, 2009, 10:47:56 PM
Quote from: kattila on December 30, 2009, 01:16:16 PM


And ,Cabagge explain your self better  how do you flat bet. Thanks.



Accept my of dearest of apologies Kattila  :laugh:  

Here is how using actuals; (please note that the bankroll is bankroll before next bets are taken off)

8    -1.................................500
16  -2 (bet 1+1 on 3-1)......500
23  -2 L (bet 1+1 on 3-2.....498
17  -2 w..............................499<<-a win but were below 500 so up the bets
36  -3 (bet 2+2 on 1-2).......499
28  -3 L (bet 2+2 on 1-3)....495
12  -1 w (bet 3+3 on 2-3....497<<- here we won but still lower than 500 so up the bets for the next round of 4
17  -2 w (bet 1+1 on 3-1....500<<-last win got us back to 500 so reset back to 1+1
35  -3 w .............................501

It's a grinder alright but if you had a 4 in a row loss from the start of a session it would only be -8 instead of -80






Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: topcat888 on January 01, 2010, 01:32:13 PM
Hi kattila,  Do you still use this system or not. . ?

Did you improve it or find something better. . ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: WARRIOR on January 01, 2010, 01:54:56 PM
KATTILA QUESTION ARE YOU STILL WINNING WITH THIS .
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: kattila on January 01, 2010, 02:03:01 PM
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Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: topcat888 on January 01, 2010, 02:08:47 PM
Which progression do you use.   .   ?

This one:

0,50+0,50                 1                     +0,50

1,50+1,50                 4                     +0,50

4,50+4,50                 13                    +0,50

13,50+13,50             40                    +0,50


OR THIS ONE:


0,50+0,50                   1                         +0,50

1+1                             3                         0             if  hit ,recover and start again  0,50+ 0,50

3+3                             9                         0             if  hit ,recover and start again   0,50+ 0,50

10+10                         29                       +1



Also do you use this at rng or only live wheels. . ??


Thanks
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: kattila on January 01, 2010, 02:23:06 PM
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Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: Jeromin on January 02, 2010, 05:49:43 AM
I used flat bet on mechanical live roulette, worked really well for a couple of hours, made a cool €90 out of €40.  Lost 3 in a row only once. Progression would have been much better, but I'm not comfortable risking all my  funds every 4 spins. As long as I''m wining. I'm a patient player.  I also covered the 0 for peace of mind. Tried my luck in Dublin Bet, much harder. Those dealers seem to take the randomness out of the game.

Jeromin
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: topcat888 on January 02, 2010, 07:07:14 AM
Hi Jeromin

When you say flat betting you mean something similar to the Flat betting cabbage suggests..?

Are you placing 1 unit on each dozen and 0.25 on the ZP..?

Also, have you tried simply playing one then recalculate, one then recalculate and so on, taking the loses along the way or is that no good..?

TC
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: Jeromin on January 02, 2010, 09:17:29 PM
Hi topcat88

I tried the flat bet explained by cabbage above after observing a couple of instances of 4 consecutive losses.  Doubling while dipping bellow the starting point seems dangerous though.  Specially since in my (very limited ) experience losses as well as wins mostly come in streaks. Or maybe I just chickened out due to inadequate bankroll.  Bet on two 4xL back to back being unlikely and flat bet on the first and do a progression on the second ( such as 1 2 5 16 ). A long progression might be interesting. A tedious system to test by hand, would love to see it on RXtreme.
I was actually thinking of resetting the bet after a loss, rather than going for a flip ( e.g. 2/1 2/3 2/1, etc. ), though of course it would mean taking a second loss if the last dozen repeats. That flip is probably the system's main strength.
Needs testing, but it's interesting, long W sequences are very common.
I should have tested it more before playing real money, maybe I'm not so patient after all.

Jeromin




Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: topcat888 on January 02, 2010, 11:57:21 PM
Is there any reason why the 6 point divisor ~ nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/) ~  shouldn't be applied to this system...??

TC
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: bene126 on January 06, 2010, 08:36:46 AM
Hi.Can someone code this in RX.It is important for me because i have good idea i think.Thanks.


regards

bene
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: topcat888 on January 06, 2010, 10:05:33 AM
For manual play:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=465 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=465)

TC
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: kattila on January 07, 2010, 12:16:20 PM
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Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: bene126 on January 07, 2010, 01:03:16 PM
Hi Kattila.I am thinking about some modify of this  system.I wanna use it to my system and can post it here but nedd some facts.Which is the minimum of times you won in 100 bets if you remember it or you can say average.Thank you.
Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: balint on April 02, 2010, 10:52:45 AM
Hi again.            I repost my system again, with some updates.            (kattila)

                 
                       TWO DOZENS


Bet two dozens, wait always  two diferent dozens(or columns).           


When                              bet  

12  (2 is the last)       1,3/2,3/1,3/2,3          

13                              1,2/2,3/1,2/2,3

21                              2,3/1,3/2,3/1,3

23                              1,2/1,3/1,2/1,3

31                              2,3/1,2/2,3/1,2

32                              1,3/1,2/1,3/1,2

                                miss.      doz.      + second doz/miss.      doz.     +last doz.     .     .     .     /.     .     .     .     again



Progressions:

A.           

1/1 , 3/3, 9/9, 27/27


B.           

Up on loss/down on win

2/2, 6/6, 8/8, 10/10.     .     .     .     .     /.     .     .     .     .     10/10 , 8/8 , 6/6, 4/4, 2/2

or

4/4, 12/12, 16/16, 20/20.     .     .     .     .     /.     .     .     .     .     20/20,.     .     etc.     .     4/4    

Ex.           :

12.      .     .     .         1,3/2,3/1,3/2,3  

1
2.       .     .     .         start
2.      .     .     .     .     .    loss(1,3)    -4  ,                        bet now 6/6 (2,3)
1.      .     .     .     .      L2  (2,3)    -16,                          bet         8/8 (1,3)
1.      .     .     .     .       W ( 1,3)     -8, start again  new pattern at  Win
.     .     .     .     .     .        wait two diferent dozens.     .     .     .     .     .     .     .     .     .           
3.      .     .     .     .       start from pattern 13(1,2/2,3/1,2/2,3),   bet 6/6
3.      .     .     .     .     .     loss(1,2),    -20  ,                                   bet  8/8 (2,3)
3.      .     .     .     .     .     w    (2,3)    -12,     wait
2.      .     .     .     .       start 32 (1,3/1,2/1,3/1,2)                        bet 6/6
1.       .     .     .     .      w(1,3)         -6 , start again pattern  21 , bet 4/4
3.      .     .     .     .       w    (2,3)     0,    start again              13,  bet 2/2
2.      .     .     .     .       w                +2,                                  32,        2/2
2.      .     .     .     .       L1                -2,                                               6/6
2  .     .     .     .     .       w               +4,    wait
3                                           ,    start again                23         4/4        
1.      .     .     .     .      w                 +8,                       31,                   2/2
1.      .     .     .     .      L1                +4                                                6/6
2.      .     .     .     .      w                 +10                   12,                      4/4
1.      .     .     .     .      w                 +14                   21,                       2/2      
.         
.         
.         etc.   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   




C.         

Progression

2/2, 4/4, 8/8, 16/16.   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .       and if loss stay on 16/16 until total in plus



good luck



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Title: Re: Two dozens
Post by: balint on April 08, 2010, 07:45:44 PM
Why don t  you try the B.  or  C.  progressions, y have good results,  long W sequences are very common,
this is one of the strengths of this system.

Can start from (B)  progression like described above  on update, or more economically like:

 up   0,50/0,50...1,50/1,50...2/2....2,50/2,50...3/3..../...down...3/3....etc......0,50/0,50   or

 up    1/1...3/3...4/4...5/5....6/6...../....down....6/6...5/5...4/4...3/3...2/2...1/1    too

                                 



or  (C)  progression  like described on update, or  more econm. :

0,50/0,50....1/1....2/2....4/4....8/8   if lose stay on top (  2 or 4 or 8   ) until  in plus

1/1....2/2....4/4....8/8      same stay on top until in plus


good luck.