Hi all..Winkel ur crossover strategy has proven itself and some have benefit with new strategies from this fundamental ideal..I remembered when ur G.U.T.thread first came out i printed of the first 17 pages and reread on a red eye flight to vegas..But once in vegas and a 2 quart margarita was put in my hand...it all went to pot tryin to apply ur method..Recent discussions on the grail and ur comments draws no arguments..if one is to review ur method on ur board.. requires alot of sifting thru 76 pages..filled with alot of annoyance u had to deal with from a few who are no longer here.. Could u or others hint of the highlights of ur strategy and findings of refinements down to a more condensed thread or direct those of interest to one? maybe a G.U.T. for dummies?I would like to devoted more time to go thru that 76 page thread but still feel i may miss the finer point of the strategy itself..Personally i am devoting more time to another method right now..but want to get back to G.U.T...to add a few more tricks into the bag..thanks again..
Hi, out there!
My Name is RCEC and I want to tell you about a Paradoxon about G.U.T(known as RNF)
R means Coldnumbers that do not apeared yet so =0
N means Normalnumbers that apeared once so =1
F means Hotnumbers that apeared more than 1 times so =>1
You can calculate every Probability of each event from 37/0/0 = up to 0/0/37 with excel using the Binomialdistribution.
and there I found the Paradoxon:
In Spin 37 there it stands 14/14/10 (rounded)
in Spin 38 there it stands 13/14/9 (rounded)
mathematical true ,but impossible that a =0 became a >1 ???
the only way to play i if =0 became a >1 that if both became equal like 12/14/11 can went to 11/15/11 or to 11/15/11 so to bet are =0 + =1 ;most of the winning bets are about the 41th spin with a + of 6-8 units
try it. :pleasantry: RCEC
or 12/13/12 i ment. :whistle:
Hello RCEC,
Thank you very much for reviving this interesting subject. I did play this method a couple of years back.
I tried to understand your post but could not follow. Could you please kindly illustrate on this.
QuoteYou can calculate every Probability of each event from 37/0/0 = up to 0/0/37 with excel using the Binomialdistribution.
and there I found the Paradoxon:
In Spin 37 there it stands 14/14/10 (rounded)
in Spin 38 there it stands 13/14/9 (rounded)
mathematical true ,but impossible that a =0 became a >1
the only way to play I if =0 became a >1 that if both became equal like 12/14/11 can went to 11/15/11 or to 11/15/11 so to bet are =0 + =1 ;most of the winning bets are about the 41th spin with a + of 6-8 units
Regards
little mistake
14/14/9 became 13/14/10
This is mathematical correct,but not possible in real
A zero-appeared-one could not become a twice or more often one!
the only possible outcome would be one of these one
1/35/1
2/33/2
3/31/3
4/29/4
5/27/5
6/25/6
7/23/7
8/21/8
9/19/9
10/17/10
11/15/11
12/13/12most
13/11/13most
14/9/14
15/7/15
16/5/16
17/3/17
18/1/18
you mostly bet 27,28,29 numbers do not bet the repeaters
example 16/6/15 can be 15/7/15 or 16/5/16 you won either if 16 or 6 hit bet 22 units get 35 units +14 units
or 13/12/12 can be 12/13/12 or 13/11/13 bet 24 units get 35 units + 12 unit
or 9/19/8 can be 8/20/8 or 9/18/9 bet 28 units get 35 units +8 units
comprende?
hope you understand,it is easy to code in excel
cu
GB
Hello RCEC,
Thank you very much for your explanation.
Your approach looks interesting.
Regards & Best Wishes
RCEC
Please start by explaining the first line:
1/35/1...........
What is the first 1?
What is the 35?
What is the second 1?
Thanks,
Sam
Hello Sam,
QuotePlease start by explaining the first line:
1/35/1...........
What is the first 1?
What is the 35?
What is the second 1?
1 = number not hit ( as per GUT system)
35=numbers hit 1 time
1=number hit more than 1 time
Regards
Hello Friends,
To learn more about this subject go to pages 62,63,64 & 65. Read the post by RCEC.
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=2128.0 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=2128.0)
Regards
I tried to prom it in excel
maybe it works here
nolinks://nolinks.dc-campus.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2937&d=1341839460 (nolinks://nolinks.dc-campus.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2937&d=1341839460)
as you can see most of the time you hit after a rotationj in coup 41/42 as the math stats GUT =0 meets >=1
a new update is ,if there was a repeater within the last 7 spins DON`T bet
the binomialdistribution
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Hello RCEC. . . .
Interesting subject.
Are you saying we should bet when the R(=0) is equal to the F(>1) ??
Or, should we bet only when the R(=0) = F(>1) AND no Repeats in last 7 spins which means the F(>1) did not increase in last 7 spins?
I have attached an Excel spreadsheet that tracks the RNF and shows both of these situations. When using the no repeats in last 7 spins we do not get many betting opportunities.
Simply press Function Key F9 to get another 50 spins.
Kindly advise and any other betting situations.
Thank you.
Nick
RCEC . . .
I forgot to include Zero in the previous Excel spreadsheet. Attached Version 2 includes it.
I also showed that if N = F then possible bet and if R = N, another possible bet?
At least this tool will help in see what is happening and make it easier to choose a bet selection.
Cheers
Nick
Hello Nickmsi,
Thank you very much for the tracking spreadsheet.
It makes testing much easier.
Regards
Hello RCEC.
Thanks for the update. I have been to the German forum a couple of time but it's very difficult to understand even with translation.
When you say a repeater within the last 7 spins, does it mean there must be no hit on N and F within the last 7 spins?
Regards.
Hello Nickmsi,
QuoteHello RCEC. . . .
Interesting subject.
Are you saying we should bet when the R(=0) is equal to the F(>1) ??
Or, should we bet only when the R(=0) = F(>1) AND no Repeats in last 7 spins which means the F(>1) did not increase in last 7 spins?
I have attached an Excel spreadsheet that tracks the RNF and shows both of these situations. When using the no repeats in last 7 spins we do not get many betting opportunities.
My understanding about the system is as follow. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Example,
R N F
10 18 9 (next bet on N, if hit N=17 and F=10. We win because R=10 and N=10)
10 17 10
Example
R N F
18 16 3 (next bet on R, if hit R=17 and N=17. We win because R=17 and N=17)
17 17 3
Regards
Hello Nickmsi,
We will bet for the next outcome that R=N or R=F or N=F in order to win, else we lose.
We will not bet unless the outcome on a hit will be as above.
If the outcome turn otherwise, we lose. And we will repeat as above.
Regards.
Thanks Sniper . .
Now I get it and will play around with it.
Nick
Hello Nickmsi,
Please do let me know if you want more illustration regarding this method.
I will try to show you using real spins.
Regards
Thanks Sniper . . .
Attached is an updated RNF tracker with Bet Selections and Results.
Kindly check it over and see if I got the right Bets.
It looks really good, if I did!!!
Nick
Hello Nickmsi,
Thank you very much. You are very fast in writing software.
I believe there is a mistake in you betting.
R N F
19 10 8 Bet F ( In your software you bet F. You should bet N instead. When N hit, N will change to 9 and F=9.)
( You always bet for R=N or R=F or N=F in order to WIN, else you lose)
18 11 9 -8 ( The loss should be -10 because you should be betting on N which consist of 10 numbers)
Regards
Another example
R N F
12 14 11 ( We will bet R next. If R hit, R will change to 11 and R=F=11)
11 15 11 (Here we win. In order to win we must always bet for R=N or R=F or N=F)
Regards
Thank you Sniper for helping me understand.
I think I am finally getting it.
Please look over the attached and see if correct.
If so, are there any other bet selections to be used?
Thanks
Nick
Hello Nickmsi,
Extract from your software
R N F
29 17 16 4
30 17 15 5 Bet R (Next you bet R. This is correct. If R hit, R will change to 16 and N also 16. )
31 16 16 5 +18
32 15 17 5
33 15 16 6 (Next you should bet N. If N hit, N will change to 15 and F to 7. We want R=N=15 to win)
34 15 16 6 -16 ( Repeat and bet N. We want N to be 15 which is equal to R)
35 15 15 7 +19 ( We win here because N hit and now N=R=15)
36 14 16 7
37 13 17 7
38 12 18 7
39 11 19 7
40 10 20 7
41 9 21 7 Bet R (You should not bet here. Even if R hit, it will not be equal to N or F)
42 8 22 7 +26
* We can only bet on situation when upon hitting, R=N or R=F or N=F. We will win if this happen and will lose otherwise.
We cannot place a bet, even upon hitting the above situation remain false.
Regards
Sniper, I think I made another mistake. Please verify the following Bets.
R N F
15 13 9 BET R
12 15 10 BET N
15 12 10 BET R
Thanks
Hello Nickmsi,
QuoteSniper, I think I made another mistake. Please verify the following Bets.
R N F
15 13 9 BET R
12 15 10 BET N
15 12 10 BET R
R N F
15 13 9 ( Next bet is R. If R hit, R will change to14 and N also change to 14. We only bet on situation where upon hitting
R=N or R=F or N=F can happen. We will not bet if even upon hitting the situation remain false)
12 15 10 ( We will not bet here as per explanation above.)
15 12 10 ( Here we will bet N. When hit N will change to 11 and F will also change to 11. )
Regards
Thanks, it is becoming more clear.
Do we only bet on R and N?
We never bet on F?
Nick
Hello Nickmsi,
In this situation we can never bet on F. We only bet on R and N.
R= unhit numbers
N=number hit once
F=number hit more than once ( F will not change after it has hit twice.)
We can choose a more complex way to play if we want to bet on F and further. The principle remains the same.
R=unhit numbers
N=number hit once
F=number hit twice
F1=number hit 3 times
F2=number hit more than 3 times.
In this case we can bet R,N,F and F1.
Regards
No more complex bets, this is complicated enough. (just joking).
Let me get the basics and then we can move on if needed.
Thanks
Nick
Hello Nickmsi,
One more rule I almost forgot.
Whenever R<F and N<F , we have to start new.
There will never be any more signal for us to place bet when the above happen.
We can choose to look back 10 to 15 past spins and continue from there or we start new.
Thanks and Regards
I will work on that rule and all others when I get the basic down.
Please review the attached and see if I got bet right this time.
Thanks
Nick
Hello Nickmsi,
I have not check all. I noticed you missed a couple of signals.
From your samples
R N F
30 20 8 9 Bet R
31 19 9 9 +15
32 19 8 10
33 18 9 10 Bet R
34 18 9 10 -18 (Bet R again)
35 18 8 11 -18
36 17 9 11
37 16 10 11 Bet R
38 15 11 11 +19
You missed the above signals.
Regards
Thanks, I know I don't have all the signals yet, I just want to get the basic idea which I now think I do.
I will work on adding more signals and rules tomorrow. Time for bed, here in USA.
Where are you from?
Nick
We shall continue working on it.
Good night and sleep well.
Regards
@all
That is not what i ment.
You always bet R+N If there is the probability that R will became F,means R = F , equal
example 14/10/13
Bet 14+10 ,possible outcome 13/11/13 or 14/9/14
other one
11/17/10> 10/18/10 or > 11/16/11
advise:
don t bet if there were Reapeter within the last 7 spins
CuGB
Hello RCEC,
When you say repeater within the last 7 spins, do you mean the same number repeat.
Example 1
23
12
9
34
5
12 (shown here no. 12 repeat within last 7 spins)
7
Or this example 2
R N F
1 18 16 3
2 17 17 3
3 16 18 3
4 15 19 3
5 14 20 3
6 14 19 4 (A hit on N shows an earlier number has repeated)
I believe you are referring to the 1st example. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards
Hello RCEC,
Quote@all
That is not what I ment.
You always bet R+N If there is the probability that R will became F,means R = F , equal
example 14/10/13
Bet 14+10 ,possible outcome 13/11/13 or 14/9/14
other one
11/17/10> 10/18/10 or > 11/16/11
That means there is only one betting situation.
Regards
Hello Nickmsi,
Good morning.
RCEC explained his way of playing this system. I understand that he only bet on one signal only.
He always bet on R and N together. And he is looking for R=F to win.
He will wait and only bet when such condition permit and not otherwise.
Regards
Hi Sniper . . .
Enclosed latest version of RNF tracker, which includes most of the signals plus I added the
"End" of session if R<F or N <F.
Kindly review and advise if this is correct.
If this is good, we can add RCEC signals as well.
Thanks
Nick
Hello Nickmsi,
QuoteEnclosed latest version of RNF tracker, which includes most of the signals plus I added the
"End" of session if R<F or N <F
It should be R<F
and N<F (not R<F
or N <F).
I noticed while betting N the result show losses where you should win.
Some betting signals are still missing, where you should bet.
Regards
OK, I fixed the End of Session.
Attached is RCEC version of betting only when R = F and only if no repeaters in last 7 spins.
I don't see much benefit, but maybe I got it wrong.
Nick