Before I explain the system, I would like to say that I'm posting it here simply because this is the systems library, not because I thinks it's a holy grail or will beat roulettes house edge over 20 million spins ect. . so no need for all the six's/spikes of the forum to explain why-when-how it will lose ;)
The Idea of this system was inspired by a few threads on this forum,so if you see something simular, you know why!
Pattern Breaker System
This system uses the dozens and columns, dozens= 1 2 3 and columns= A B C. The idea is that after 3 spins you bet the pattern will not start to repeat itself. . here's what I mean:
Lets just say dozens 121 came out in the first 3 spins(forget columns for a sec) you now bet that next spin wont make the pattern 1212 by betting on dozens 3 and 1.
Here is all the patterns of that type for both dozens and columns:
121 ABA
131 ACA
212 BAB
313 CAC
232 BCB
323 CBC
For the other type of patterns 123, 211 ect. . . you just bet that the next spin it wont be 1231(23) or 2112(11) hope you follow me here?
I have been playing both columns and dozens(seperate progressions though) at the same time with a 1+1 up on a loss and 1+1 down on a win.
I've attached a 154 spin session with dublinbet live numbers, but here is a short example so you get a better idea of how it works. . . .
Dozens 213 and columns AAB were first out. . so we bet 1+1 on the next spin that the dozens wont be 213(2) and also bet 1+1 that the columns AAB wont be AAB(A). . . .
213 AAB
2 C
The dozens lost but the columns won,so after we get the next pattern from the next 2 spins we bet 2+2 for the dozens and again 1+1 for the cloumns. . . .
213 AAB
232 CCB
2 B
The dozens won because the pattern 232 was broke by being 2322 and not 2323, and the cloumns won again by being CCBB and not CCBC.
Hope you understand how it works now, pretty easy to play really,the attachment will help you understand better anyway (please note that the bank is total before the next bets are taken off. )
Good luck!
when you guys start using some notepad orr .txt what ever will open windows i have to jump all time on linux to open this type file .xls i was have some program for that but its make half hour to open some file with thaat ..horrible sorry btw...nice idea!!
Just did another 151 spins and holding up well. . attached the session. . .
sorry, I looked at your spreadsheet, and I can't figure out what your doing. You are betting that the start of the next pattern of 3 is different than the previous? correct?
It is getting frustrating for me because I know it is simple, but I can't see it.
I got it now. nice job. ignore that last message.
More testing pls............ :)
Hi All,
Been playing this system for ages is old for me but works well.
I have a automated xls sheet which always worked well for me.
YELLOW donates 3 triggers , RED donates a loss & GREEN donates a win.
Hope it helps you all only copied 800 lines do to file size limits but all you need to do it drag the last 2 rows down once you have down loaded the xls sheet.
Any problems let me know
Regards,
Si
Hi All,
Forgot to mention how I play this one I track all the available bets but only bet x1 time if it loses then my 2nd progression would be on the next trigger.
If you try to play a progression on x1 set of trigger lets say the 121 I have seen it go to 10 so you would be doomed.
Stick to x1 bet each trigger and you will be on a winner.
Regards,
Si
Quote from: Simon Bird on July 01, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
Hi All,
Forgot to mention how I play this one I track all the available bets but only bet x1 time if it loses then my 2nd progression would be on the next trigger.
If you try to play a progression on x1 set of trigger lets say the 121 I have seen it go to 10 so you would be doomed.
Stick to x1 bet each trigger and you will be on a winner.
Regards,
Si
simon can you give an ex . how you play thank you warrior
Hi Warrior,
Yes no problem here goe's.
On my xls sheet we track 121 , 131 , 212 , 232 , 313 , 323 dozens and 121 , 131 , 212 , 232 , 313 , 323 columns ( 1 = 1st - 2 = 2nd - 3 = 3rd )
Lets say the dozens trigger comes up no1 , no13 , then no 3 so we get a trigger 1st doz 2nd doz 1st doz so we then bet against the 2nd doz coming up on the pattern so we bet 1 unit on doz 1&3.
If doz 2 wins we then stop and wait for the next trigger on the columns or dozens if it's the columns 313 we then carry forward our progression and bet 3 units on columns 2&3 against the 1st column
Clear as mud ? let me know.
Regards,
Si :good:
Quote from: Simon Bird on July 01, 2010, 08:05:44 PM
Hi Warrior,
Yes no problem here goe's.
On my xls sheet we track 121 , 131 , 212 , 232 , 313 , 323 dozens and 121 , 131 , 212 , 232 , 313 , 323 columns ( 1 = 1st - 2 = 2nd - 3 = 3rd )
Lets say the dozens trigger comes up no1 , no13 , then no 3 so we get a trigger 1st doz 2nd doz 1st doz so we then bet against the 2nd doz coming up on the pattern so we bet 1 unit on doz 1&3.
If doz 2 wins we then stop and wait for the next trigger on the columns or dozens if it's the columns 313 we then carry forward our progression and bet 3 units on columns 2&3 against the 1st column
Clear as mud ? let me know.
Regards,
Si :good: OK THANKYOU now how do you mean carrying forward the progression is that only if you lose the first trigger ?
Hi Warrior,
Yes ONLY if you lose.
IF you WIN go back to the 1st progression of 1 unit.
Regards,
Si :good:
Quote from: Simon Bird on July 01, 2010, 08:16:46 PM
Hi Warrior,
Yes ONLY if you lose.
IF you WIN go back to the 1st progression of 1 unit.
Regards,
Si :good:
thanks simon .
Hi there :). . .
First time on here, its all so interesting. I have been looking at your system, but was wondering what your stake plan was. Lets say you lose once, what do you bet then, and if you lose twice, what then. . . . Thanks ;)
Hi Paul,
Normal progression 1,3,9,27,81,243,729
Play my way not as listed on the 1st post it will lose.
You can also do a recoupe as well but you might be chasing your losses.
Download my xls sheet all you do is put in your spin number
Regards,
Si
I like using live dealer normally on ladbrokes. Will this work on there :scratch_ones_head:. . . What is the best system to use on live dealer. I know nothing works everytime, but im sure there is a way to make steady money, or should i say, win more than you lose.
I have been on live dealer for past few weeks and do ok, till the i use a progression stake plan and they seem to go for the ones who stake more than others. It makes sence i suppose, what is the dealer gonna pay out, a few hundred or twenty quid. The dealers are all from latvia and seem to wait for a certain time before spinning the ball. :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: What do u think
Hi Paul,
I also use Ladbrokes live dealer due to the £1 min bet and large table limits so yes this is the table I remomend to any gambler with a good bank.
Follow my instructions and xls sheet and you will not be disapointed.
Also if you have a dozen and column to bet on the same time pick the one that has won least the reason for this is I have seen the progression win on the 7th like this but I you eliminate one it has only ever gone to 6
Any more help let me know
Regards,
Si
I have just been on ladbrokes live casino and by accident, i did it slightly wrong. . . . ::)
What i did was, if a sequence came up of for example. . . 323. . . i backed 3 and 1 instead. so i was hoping the pattern would not be 32. . . 32. . .
And the results were as follows. . . 35 bets. . . 28 won and 7 lost. . . .
Which if my maths are any good thats 28-14= 14 points per 1+1 bet. . . .
So if i had done 5+5 on dozens i would have made 5x 14 =70 quid. . . :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
I did'nt use a progressive stake, just simply 1+1 ;D ;D ;D
Hi Paul,
Well all I can say is you were lucky and if you carry on flat betting you will lose.
I have about 100mg of spin data on a xls sheet and the only way this system fairs well is via my info and waiting
Regards,
Si
hey simon, you said to bet once on each trigger. example on your xls, columns came up 232, then 3 so we lost do we continue betting columns 1 and 3 one more time? which means bet twice on each trigger?