Poll
Question:
What would you do if you found the Holy Grail?
Option 1: Just dissapear off this forum?
votes: 11
Option 2: Brag about it on the forum?
votes: 1
Option 3: Give the bet to the forum?
votes: 3
Option 4: Give the bet to selected members of the forum?
votes: 5
Option 5: Tease everyone that dosent have a HG?
votes: 3
so what would you do and why? :give_rose:
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Holy grail for someone can't be holy grail for everyone... So this question is kind of meaningless...
there is no holy grail that everyone will just win with... Roulette is here for too long and if holy grail would be discovered (meaning that every stupid person or monkey could win with it), roulette wouldn't operate anymore..
I can be wrong.... but I am still quite shure that truth is not far from what I have just written...
roulette is not just system... its a combination of fighting with emotions and making decisions...
you can get a feeling when it is a bad run..but your mind wants to play more... quitting when you know you are on a bad run is a holy grail...
Even the best HG when put into the wrong hands can still end up a loser.
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"I know this is supposed to be a theoretical question, but it gets old. As Boo_Ray said there is no system/bet that will mechanically make money for anyone/anything playing it, so why keep asking these questions...."--Marven
We ask because it was believed that climbing Mount Everest was impossible at one time...and if Everest can and has been climbed, Roulette can be beaten (though a daunting task). Moreover, we don't have to look very far, the new owner of this forum Steve Hourmouzis says there is a way....
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on February 13, 2010, 08:35:24 PMRoulette can be beaten
But not with a system.. which everyone expect a holy grail system that they will never have to use their brains and think.. just plain playing by the book
I would cover it with melted cheese and serve it with crackers. ;D
Just out of curiosity, why do a lot of people keep their systems secret?
Not necessarily talking about a HG, but I've noticed a handful of posts with people claiming to have solid systems, whether they're math-based, physics based, or whatever, who won't explain why their system works? Is it because they intend to sell it? Afraid everyone will win with it and casinos will find a countermeasure?
Again, I'm just curious. I can understand people wanting to protect their own intellectual property, but I'm just curious for the reasons why.
What would I do if I had the holy grail? USE IT, and arrange for other trusted people to use it for a profit split. What you earn is not defined by what is possible to earn - it's more about getting away with it.
ATCinWI, why wouldnt people want to protect it?
That's what I am curious about. Why would they? Unless they were planning on selling the system (which seems like a good reason to keep it a secret), what good does it do to keep it a secret? I'm not saying there aren't good answers, but if somebody figured out a way to make money consistently playing roulette, why wouldn't they share the secret?
why wouldn't they share the secret?>>
Why doesn't Coke or KFC share the recipes for their product with the world? Because if they did, everybody would steal it and put them out business by copycatting them. If you publish a winning roulette system, it would be worthless in a month because every casino would take measures so it wouldn't win in their casino.
That's exactly an answer that I was looking for. I'm just looking for something to put some perspective on the posts where people say that they have a system, but they're not going to share. If that's the main reason, I'm glad I now know.
If that's the main reason, I'm glad I now know.****
Thats not the main reason, they don't have the HG. The reason people don't share is they think what they have might be worth money and they might want to sell it. To date there are no winning roulette systems, so we're still waiting.
Quote from: cheese on February 18, 2010, 01:08:13 AM
If that's the main reason, I'm glad I now know.****
Thats not the main reason, they don't have the HG. The reason people don't share is they think what they have might be worth money and they might want to sell it. To date there are no winning roulette systems, so we're still waiting.
lets not start talking about win3million.com lol
For me the Holy Grail is NOT a hypothetical question..
Would I divulge my REAL secret ?
For what ?
Which one of you idle wretches deserves to drink from the Cup of Life ?
The Holy Grail is not MY possession to give away !
The important thing is that you not stop questioning The 'Impossible' Dream.
The 'Impossible' has its own Reason for existing.
Roulette begins where this Reason sinks exhausted.
Do what thou wilt !
>:D
The original roulette wheel had 36 numbers....The zero's / house edge were introduced later.
Also consider that education was once a valued privilege & many branches of mathematics were in infancy.
It's possible someone may have created an edge & forced the establishments to alter the game.
Could this is be where the myths emerged?
But that's history so lets move on ..
The holy grail is a good source of attention for eccentrics. People love to talk about secret methods but always forget that the casino / terminal will witness your legally acceptable secret any time you bet.
you can easily confirm this by viewing a online live dealer & table casino.
How & why could thousands of casino's worldwide with their high tech wizardry & infinite opening hours be stupid to miss it & not use it themselves?
casino's monitor staff for collusion, track banned winners & fraudsters with facial recognition software across continents & have multiple cameras per square metre.
with all these methods at their disposal how could they miss the secret grail when they simply have to replay camera footage & compare spin data of winners at table 3 from x o clock or
Analyze & replay sessions on rng terminals.
Even the elusive hit & run or wait X hours to bet player methods can be studied.
This is why I don't believe the grail exists using legal methods ...The casino or hosts would already know & alter the game again.Or be the dumbest institution on the planet & that's just the respectable ones.
so what about the shady establishments & employees?
can the casino copy & distribute video footage & spin data of winning players sessions ?
what about membership ,winnings,residencies ,e mails & much more that can easily be tracked.
Are roulette players data protected ? How would they enforce it & what if this data could be sold & purchased?
That's a lot of information to misuse & exploit if the grail existed.
My goal is to simply win a small percentage bet ( 1% ) compound interest of my bankroll per session. Its no big deal .. I will reveal it to anyone who requests it.
Quote from: Element on February 28, 2010, 05:13:14 PM
People love to talk about secret methods but always forget that the casino / terminal will witness your legally acceptable secret any time you bet.
Good point.
Quote from: Element on February 28, 2010, 05:13:14 PM
My goal is to simply win a small percentage bet ( 1% ) compound interest of my bankroll per session. Its no big deal .. I will reveal it to anyone who requests it.
I would like how to duplicate such a feat.
1% compounded = fortunes.
Thanks for your time and posting Element.
Quote from: Element on February 28, 2010, 05:13:14 PM
The holy grail is a good source of attention for eccentrics.
Bonjour...!
Quote from: Element on February 28, 2010, 05:13:14 PM
People love to talk about secret methods but always forget that the casino / terminal will witness your legally acceptable secret any time you bet.
How & why could thousands of casino's worldwide with their high tech wizardry & infinite opening hours be stupid to miss it & not use it themselves?
The Casinos know about the HG bet.
It isn't a secret..
They prefer to ban professional players rather than alter Roulette itself.
There are more than enough clueless gamblers to redress the balance.
This has been MY unfortunate problem.
I can't win money FAST enough.. before the inevitable..
:(
Quote from: No More Bets on March 04, 2010, 06:24:37 PM
Bonjour...!
The Casinos know about the HG bet.
It isn't a secret..
They prefer to ban professional players rather than alter Roulette itself.
There are more than enough clueless gamblers to redress the balance.
This has been MY unfortunate problem.
I can't win money FAST enough.. before the inevitable..
:(
that's real news. Who knows about the HG bet??? Managers? Owners?
if dealers knew that, who would be kept working there? On the other hand how dealers may not know about it if they deal with it all the time?
some kind of mystery here i guess. "Not a secret" which nobody knows about...Or so many people keep their mouths shut.
Quote from: iggiv on March 04, 2010, 09:51:34 PM
if dealers knew that, who would be kept working there? On the other hand how dealers may not know about it if they deal with it all the time?
you would be suprised how many dealers are oblivious and know nothing about roulette you ask them what the house edge is and they think its the zero, they just come to work and spin a ball, the dealers i know think its boring as hell dealing roulette there are a few educated ones but alot dont even pay attention to the bets placed it would be management that know about the HG bet