Is it possible to guess higher than 50% on any even chance, like red/black, or coin flips?
yes. but not in the long run.
So if you can do it by accident, you can't do it on purpose? Why not?
Spike,
Of course you can. The laws of physics only apply to the rest of the world. :)
Luck.
Depending on your luck, sometimes you will guess better than 50%, sometimes you won't.
I agree that a good understanding of how randomness behaves could possibly help your score.
However to do it consistently and forever would take extraordinarily good luck plus "something extra".
Random.org has a good exercise to see if you can behave as random does:
nolinks://faculty.rhodes.edu/wetzel/random/intro.html (nolinks://faculty.rhodes.edu/wetzel/random/intro.html)
Depending on your luck, sometimes you will guess better than 50%, sometimes you won't.>>
To you, what does 'luck' mean?
Herb Snickered: <<Of course you can.<<<
See? Herb has no idea how to answer this question, so he tap dances around it. About as I expected.
Luck is a universal phenomenon whereby in the course of time one's level of synchronicity ebbs and flows toward and away from any ideal state. It's a pendulum effect that is inherent in much of what we experience in this world and very hard to escape from.
That's what it means to me.
What does it mean to you?
What does it mean to you?>>
I don't believe in luck. Its just a catch-all phrase we use when we don't understand whats going on. When something good happens, its 'good luck'. Luck doesn't exist, there's only what happens. Most of life is made up of random events, luck doesn't explain anything because its a meaningless word.
Sorry, but it's just luck.
Sorry, but it's just luck. >>>
Look, Herb got got a top hat and a cane to go with his tap shoes! Blame it all on a meaningless word when you don't know the answer.
Sorry, but it's just more of the same. It's "Old Gambler's Fallacy".
Ho hum.
The question was: Is it possible to guess higher than 50% on any even chance, like red/black, or coin flips?
And your answer is gamblers fallacy? Thats a yes or a no? You won't answer, will you. Because you know I have your argument beat.
*Sigh*
Sorry Spike, but I'm not interested. :stop:
I knew you wouldn't say. The only answer is, of course you can guess better than 50%. And that being true, if you can figure out why you guessed correctly every time you do, you'll eventually be able to do it consistantly. That is, if you can get off the train wreck called 'luck' and pay attention to whats really happening. But most people are very comfortable on that ol train, they ain't getting off for nothin..
From everything I've experienced and learned, actually there is more to "luck" than mere statistics. There are other factors at play, but understanding exactly what's going on is another story.
I'll rephrase your question to its two possible alternatives and answer each separately:
1) Betting on an even chance, can you win for a while?
Any bet that is on the wheel and includes at least one pocket will sooner or later come up. It will hit above its normal hit-rate at times, and below it at others. So of course you can, Duh! The real question is:
2) Betting on an even chance, can you consistently predict the next spin at a higher than average rate?
You wish! :)
Betting on an even chance, can you consistently predict the next spin at a higher than average rate?<<<
I never predict anything, I don't have a crystal ball. I can read the random and do better than 50%, yes.
actually there is more to "luck" than mere statistics.>>>
The more I examine and invetigate luck, the more I'm convinced it doesn't exist.
Also, one persons bad luck, is another persons good luck. If somebody has a car accident, its bad luck for the driver. But its good luck for the tow truck driver. You can play this game all day, and when you're done you'll see luck doesn't exist. Its a meaningless word. Its like saying 'shit happens'. It means nothing.
you can not train yourself to do the impossible.
you can not train yourself to do the impossible.>>
Very true. Its not impossible, why do you think it is? Please be specific.
unless you have supernatural powers.
Quote from: Spike! on April 21, 2010, 06:21:41 PM
Is it possible to guess higher than 50% on any even chance, like red/black, or coin flips?
YAWN ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ who gives a fig. Different forum same old questions from Spike,anyway you should know the answer considering you can guess correctly 72% of the time even on American wheels with 2 zero's :sarcastic:
Shame you are never willing to prove your claim,its because it doesn't exist,why you can't admit you've just been taking the piss out of everyone the last few years with this bull you've been posting in roulette forums over the years is beyond me. :sarcastic:
is beyond me>>
There's a lot that seems to be beyond you..
Quote from: Spike! on April 22, 2010, 01:44:56 AM
I never predict anything, I don't have a crystal ball. I can read the random and do better than 50%, yes.
Spike, how can you read better than 50%. This is a serious question, because I have been studying EC's lately with the runs and changes.
Quote from: JHM on May 03, 2010, 05:00:46 PM
Spike, how can you read better than 50%.
He can't. Don't waste your time.
He CAN NOT
Quote from: Spike! on April 21, 2010, 06:21:41 PM
Is it possible to guess higher than 50% on any even chance, like red/black, or coin flips?
You can. We don't.
I can't understand something... How come you're not a millionaire? (it's a serious question)
Quote from: mistarlupo on May 03, 2010, 06:00:29 PM
I can't understand something... How come you're not a millionaire? (it's a serious question)
If I had a +20% edge on every wheel in the world like Spike does, I could build a million $ bankroll in about 4-5 months. Not from my local casino of course, but I'd be traveling the world, from big casino to the next.
I'd be a multi-millionaire in very few years. I'm not exaggerating.
20% edge on every wheel in the world = millions of dollars (if you're able to travel).
Something tells me Spike is far away from having 1M $. :sarcastic:
How come you're not a millionaire? (it's a serious question)>>>
What is my current net worth? You seem to know, I give you permission to post it here.
I don't know... I'm just giving my guessing capabilities a shot.
In addition to that, there's an elegant pattern of losers around the roulette wheel.
I don't know... >>
You're right, you don't. Quit acting like you do.
Quote from: Spike! on May 03, 2010, 06:47:34 PM
How come you're not a millionaire? (it's a serious question)>>>
What is my current net worth? You seem to know, I give you permission to post it here.
My current net is an Airflo, it's worth about a 100 bucks. :spiteful:
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi499.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr351%2Fskakus%2Fairflo-trout-landing-net.jpg&hash=cb0c78b4ddb7199d48b9b9acee5a153f24642b27)
Quote from: Spike! on May 03, 2010, 07:15:20 PM
You're right, you don't. Quit acting like you do.
I've said that before - don't get me wrong, I don't want to argue with you. I find your comments about roulette and randomness very interesting and useful. There are few pieces in the puzzle that are missing and I'm trying to fill the gap but I'm afraid I will not get decent answers to my questions.
I'm afraid I will not get decent answers to my questions.>>>
What are your questions?
With an edge as big as you claim you should've already made enough money for living. If this is the case, why wouldn't you stop going to the casino by now? What is the reason that is preventing you from getting rich enough and quitting roulette?
Spike will tell you it's because he doesn't want to get caught and banned. But perhaps he doesn't realise there is no place in the Griffin book for EC players. :sarcastic:
With a 72% win rate, you could parlay your way to a fortune in no time, and you'd never have to play at the same casino twice. You could retire before the casinos knew what hit them.
Anyone recognize Spike?
nolinks://gaming.nv.gov/loep_main.htm (nolinks://gaming.nv.gov/loep_main.htm) :haha: :lol:
why wouldn't you stop going to the casino by now?>>>
The richest man the world has ever seen, John D Rockefeller, kept going to the office every day till he was in his 80's. When he was 60, he was already a billionaire. Why did he keep going to the office? He was a golf fanatic, why didn't he just play golf all day?
Mistarlupo, are you an EU socialist? Those are the kinds of questions socialists ask. 'Haven't you made enough money?' Why are you so greedy?' 'How much money do you need?' 'Haven't you made enough money for yourself?' In the States, we don't talk about personal finances, its nobodys business but your own.
Anyone recognize Spike? >>>
Thats the infamous NV Gaming Blacklist. It typically has very few people on it. Look how old they all are, most are in their 60's and 70's. Every casino in Vegas has their own list of people that have been barred for life. You have to be a very bad hombre to get on the NV list, it used to be all Mafia guys 30 years ago.
Quote from: Spike! on May 04, 2010, 06:40:45 PMMistarlupo, are you an EU socialist? Those are the kinds of questions socialists ask.
No, mate... I'm completely unaffiliated to politics. I'm tired of these greedy and corrupt creatures called politicians who have only their own interests. Unfortunately, there's nothing much I can do on my own, so I prefer to stay away from it.
Look, I don't give a damn for your current net worth etc. I just asked you if you were a millionaire. Say you are... yeah, I don't think you should play golf all day long but I can't understand why someone like you wouldn't stay away from casinos if you could do so. That's what I'm trying to clarify for myself.
Quote from: Spike! on May 04, 2010, 06:40:45 PMIn the States, we don't talk about personal finances, its nobodys business but your own.
In Europe (and rest of the world), your personal finance issues affected many governments and caused a financial crisis.
I don't give a damn for your current net worth>>
Really? Then why are all your questions about money? You seem almost obsessed with it.
>>In Europe (and rest of the world), your personal finance issues affected many governments and caused a financial crisis.>
LOL! Yes, everything in the world is our fault. All those EU socialist countries were going broke long before the current crisis. You have no clue what you're talking about. You sound like a typical liberal socialist who blames everybody but himself for his woes.
// offtopic
I think it is your democrat president Obama and the Congress who are blaming everyone else for their mistakes. I heard Obama blamed China for the unemployment problem in the US. WTF? It was exactly the US who moved the entire production to China and Latin America in the 70's. Your leaders are the 'blaming', not me. The US economy is going broke no more different than 'all those EU socialist countries'.
P.S.
Liberals, Democrats, Socialists... Crapilists... F**k them all!
Yawn. Who cares, just so the casinos stay open..
Quote from: Spike! on May 04, 2010, 08:37:15 PM
You sound like a typical liberal socialist who blames everybody but himself for his woes.
I smell a republican.
What a surprise. :sarcastic:
I smell a republican.>>>
Better than a crybaby socialist/democrat who whines every day about what the gov't can give them now. Better than always having your hand out, and crying because the guy down the street is smarter and makes more money than you. Better than begging people to 'share' what they have because you're too lazy to pull your own weight.
Quote from: Spike! on May 04, 2010, 11:10:57 PM
I smell a republican.>>>
Better than a crybaby socialist/democrat who whines every day about what the gov't can give them now. Better than always having your hand out, and crying because the guy down the street is smarter and makes more money than you. Better than begging people to 'share' what they have because you're too lazy to pull your own weight.
Hear! Hear!