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Title: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Jensommers on May 16, 2010, 08:17:07 PM
I, unlike a lot of the naysayers on these Roulette sites, like to add positive views and helpful hints on ways to make positive outcomes on Roulette.  I know that there definitely are 'smarter' players out there who can win consistently, even if small but steady wins is what they're doing, it's still positive in the long run.

Not to take away from many good people on this site who are playing various ways, but I just want to add a few of my opinions of doing things differently. 
Since a few years ago, I have been researching a lot of different systems and ways to play from so many different people and view points, and have come out with a few important points to take into consideration when playing Roulette.

Some of these are: Never bet 'against the wheel', that is, 'the gambler's fallacy', where you have the thought, X must come up eventually.  True, the percentages do get higher in your favour as outcomes 'sleep', but if you play any system with this 'train of thought', you are almost certain to end up in the river without your shirt!
This I'm afraid is where I have to agree with the naysayers on this site when they continue to warn people off playing with those kinds of systems i. e.  'The Zone'.  That way of betting is just not profitable long term.

Better ways to gamble when watching the wheel, is to 'follow' rather than 'bet against' the outcomes that appear.

2nd point: Don't play outside bets! They give you the worst payouts in the game, and can ruin you quick.

I am a strong believer in betting on straight up numbers.  They give the best odds of all the bets, and you can put single unit bets on them, 'low risk for maximum profit'.

More to follow. . .



Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: hoper35 on May 16, 2010, 09:03:23 PM
To each his own.   :yes:

I profit quite nicely on the outside bets.  I don't have to restrict myself to playing every spin and can move back and forth between tables.


Ron.
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Spike! on May 16, 2010, 10:11:09 PM
Better ways to gamble when watching the wheel, is to 'follow' rather than 'bet against' the outcomes that appear. >>>

Why is this better? Mahmatically it comes out the same. Please give examples.

>>I. e.  'The Zone'.  That way of betting is just not profitable long term. >>

Why? Whats wrong with the Zone?

>>Don't play outside bets! They give you the worst payouts in the game>>

Actually, all the bets in roulette have exactly the same payout, there in no best bet as far as payouts go. The only exception is the 0-1-2-3 bet. Betting a single inside number has the same payout as betting on red, do the math.
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Mr J on May 16, 2010, 10:57:57 PM
"all the bets in roulette have exactly the same payout, there in no best bet as far as payouts go" >>> Reminds me of a few stupid dealers over the years I have dealt with. I would say to put $40 on the 35/36 split. They would INSTEAD, put $20 on 35 and $20 on 36, give me a wink and tell me they are helping out...."I'll get paid more" if it hits.  :girl_wacko: I let them split my chips, why should I argue? lol  Ken
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: deFault on May 17, 2010, 12:09:38 AM
Hey J! U always sound Drunk when u post.  Ie, always gives a lot of unecessary info around the issue before you arrive to the Point (which you always do) .  gives me a lot of txt to read b4 it gets interesting;) You can for sure afford to skip that and hit the Target immediately;)

/Respect!
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Spike! on May 17, 2010, 02:53:39 AM
U always sound Drunk when u post.  always gives a lot of unecessary info around the issue>>

HUH?
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Mr J on May 17, 2010, 03:39:37 AM
2 posts...it means nothing.  Ken
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: MiniBaccarat on May 17, 2010, 03:41:38 AM
G'day,

Quote from: deFault on May 17, 2010, 12:09:38 AM
You can for sure afford to skip that and hit the Target immediately;)

So you're not into foreplay, I'm sure you're as popular in the bedroom as you are here!

Glenn.
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: 777 on July 20, 2010, 05:19:33 PM
hi Ron

just curios as to which system or strategy you are playing on the outside bets as per your quote.

i have found that playing 2x dozen at the same time either flat bet or with a minimax type of betting strategy works quite well -

do you have more profitable/constant hit and run on outside bets?

cheers
chris

Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 20, 2010, 05:33:19 PM
Noone has a consistent winning bet or system...because there isn t any.
But some mongolian members that have lose a fortune in Roulette ,they claim that they have a winning system....
this is because they don t play Roulette anymore and they just want to fool around

For example:
Spike is a sick person that claims he can beat roulette(without AP methods).
Spike is all day long (at least 14 hours daily) logged in VLS and post all the time messages....
A person that can beat roulette is a person that is traveling and making money from it and he does never care about posting empty words in a forum....
This was an example now multiply this example X10 and u have all the fake winners.... ;D
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Mr J on July 20, 2010, 05:43:05 PM
"A person that can beat roulette is a person that is traveling and making money from it and he does never care about posting empty words in a forum" >>> Is that an opinion or a fact?  Ken
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 20, 2010, 05:44:47 PM
It can t be a fact ,because it is IMPOSSIBLE to beat the Roulette...

But did I forgot to mention U Mr J? Are u also a consistent winner that sit all day in his homme and posting messages? :haha:
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Mr J on July 21, 2010, 05:15:37 PM
"It can t be a fact ,because it is IMPOSSIBLE to beat the Roulette...

But did I forgot to mention U Mr J? Are u also a consistent winner that sit all day in his homme and posting messages?" >>> I make more than you homeslice, that much I know.  Ken
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 21, 2010, 06:16:41 PM
Yes yes U are making money by posting in forums... ;D

Retarded!
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: Mr J on July 21, 2010, 06:43:26 PM
I make no money posting on forums.  :girl_blum:  Ken
Title: Re: Look at the game in different ways
Post by: hoper35 on July 23, 2010, 11:18:04 PM
Quote from: 777 on July 20, 2010, 05:19:33 PM
hi Ron

just curios as to which system or strategy you are playing on the outside bets as per your quote.

I have found that playing 2x dozen at the same time either flat bet or with a minimax type of betting strategy works quite well -

do you have more profitable/constant hit and run on outside bets?

cheers
chris


I play a lot on single dozens or columns, sometimes following the trend, sometimes against.  Small progression.  Playing the outside allows me to watch several tables at the same time.  :)