This is a system I think has potential but I need opinions and tweaks from you guys.
I split the layout into 4 blocks of 9
Block 1 = 1-9
Block 2 = 10-18
Block 3 = 19-27
Block 4 = 28-36
The trick is to find the 9 block that repeats. On average, the repeat comes between 1 and 9. Occasionally it comes between 10 and 15, and quite rarely 16+
So, the conundrum is: when and how long to bet for, and which is the best progression for such a bet? The sheer volume of hits between 1 and 9 make it worth a look at.
A quick sample test:
14 ....so bet block 2 next bet
24 ....loss, so bet block 3 next bet
15.....bet block 2
9 .... bet block 1
3 ......Win
That was a very typical win on bet 4
See what you think
Here's some spins:
7 = trigger
12
10 = repeat. Win in Block 2 after 2 bets
27 = trigger
36
17
33
11
18 = repeat. Win in Block 2 after 5 bets
2 =trigger
29
18
18 = repeat. Win in Block 2 after 3 spins
9 = trigger
0
24
0
36
34 = repeat. Win in Block 4 after 5 spins
17 = trigger
4
3 = repeat. Win in Block 1 after 2 spins.
9 =trigger
36
35 = repeat. Win in Block 4 after 2 spins
So if we broke that down into amounts of spins before a hit, it would look like this:
2
5
3
5
2
2
This is useful in analysing the average hit range.
your first sample is not like your second the first seems your following the last and in the second your using a trigger and staying on that untill it hits wich one do you use .
Brilliant buffalowizard!
Works well with the same progression for "4-Step" too.
After a win switch on to next NEW trigger block (if necessary wait for trigger to occur in different block to previous block bet first)
After a max of 5 spins (betting 3 street block) switch on to next NEW trigger block (if necessary wait for trigger to occur in different block to previous block bet first)
Thanks for sharing,
A.
Quote from: WARRIOR on May 18, 2010, 12:23:11 PM
your first sample is not like your second the first seems your following the last and in the second your using a trigger and staying on that untill it hits wich one do you use .
Warrior all I'm doing is betting the previous 9 block. After a hit, I wait one new spin in which to start a new round of betting.
so if 36 spun, my next bet would be block 4. If 34 then spun, I would win! I then wait one spin (trigger) before continuing
We are looking for repeating blocks of 9
gotcha thanx
Quote from: atlantis on May 18, 2010, 12:45:58 PM
Brilliant buffalowizard!
Works well with the same progression for "4-Step" too.
After a win switch on to next NEW trigger block (if necessary wait for trigger to occur in different block to previous block bet first)
After a max of 5 spins (betting 3 street block) switch on to next NEW trigger block (if necessary wait for trigger to occur in different block to previous block bet first)
Thanks for sharing,
A.
That's why I posted Atlantis. I was having success with this, but the runs of sometimes 15-19 without a hit was killing me. Your progression may save this beast
Taken from wiesbaden 17 may table 3 - sample 200 spins approx
Amount of spins before a repeated block:
1
7
6
14
4
3
2
2
2
1
8
12
2
12
2
12
2
1
2
3
2
2
2
6
it's handling the double figures that is key!
The only modifications I did was to move back 2 places in the progression if still not level or behind after a win
I waited for trigger in new block to previous betted block first before betting.
CASINO WIESBADEN 17 MAY 2010 - Table 3
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[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,31,Bet,3,12,-3,9,509,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
3,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
4,23,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,506,1 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
5,0,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,503,1 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
6,34,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,500,1 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
7,11,Bet,3,12,-3,9,509,1 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
8,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
9,9,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,506,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
10,2,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,503,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
11,20,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,500,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
12,4,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,497,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
13,22,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,494,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
14,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
15,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
16,8,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,488,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
17,7,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,482,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
18,9,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,476,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
19,0,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,470,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
20,2,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,464,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
21,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
22,8,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,455,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
23,11,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,446,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
24,9,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,437,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
25,20,Bet,9,36,-9,27,464,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
26,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
27,11,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,455,3 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
28,21,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,446,3 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
29,1,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,437,3 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
30,12,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,428,3 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
31,32,Bet,12,48,-12,36,464,4 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
32,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
33,4,Bet,9,36,-9,27,491,3 : (1-3)(4-6)(7-9)
34,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
35,12,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,482,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
36,19,Bet,9,36,-9,27,509,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
37,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
38,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
39,9,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,506,1 : (22-24)(25-27)(28-30)
40,26,Bet,3,12,-3,9,515,1 : (22-24)(25-27)(28-30)
41,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,515,
42,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,515,
43,36,Bet,3,12,-3,9,524,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
44,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,524,
45,26,Bet,3,12,-3,9,533,1 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
46,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,533,
47,33,Bet,3,12,-3,9,542,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
48,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,542,
49,3,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,539,1 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
50,20,Bet,3,12,-3,9,548,1 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
51,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,548,
52,9,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,545,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
53,16,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,542,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
54,36,Bet,3,12,-3,9,551,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
55,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,551,
56,24,Bet,3,12,-3,9,560,1 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
[/table]
+60 pts
Yes handling the double figure stats is the key. Will have to think - but remember better to switch block as in above session after max of 5 spins...
A.
Hi Atlantis, great testing as ever mate. Well done.
Your selection differs from my version, but the results will be the same I'm sure. It's all 9 numbers after all.
My bet is to find a repeat of every last Block. Yours is to stick with the trigger Block until it hits. It's all good!
The following is the standard 9 number progression, which is what I was using originally. I would try and bet between 1 and 5. A loss of 7 units if it went over.
This failed to work, as it could easily hit on the 7th, 6th and 8th consecutively for example.
1 . 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 4. 5. 7. 9. 12. 16. 22. 30.
I think if we use Atlantis' progression, but only bet between, say 2 and 6, then we could be onto a winner. Look at the amount of hits between 2 and 6 we have already and you see why
Here are the numbers of when a winning repeat occurred. This is using Atlantis' way of hunting the 9's and switching after 5 losses to the next new Block:
session 1: 7 2 4 2 5 7 5 3 2 5 5 7 4 4 6 5 3 2 3
session 2: 2 4 4 8 5 2 4 3 5 5 2 6 4 4 3 6 4 3 5 1 4 6 2 6
session 3: 4 3 6 2 6 2 4 4 2 1 3 8 1 8 3 3 5
session 4: 1 4 4 3 7 1 (12) 2 1 1
session 5: 2 1 1 6 9 (21) 3 5 5 (10) 6 3 2 4 1 2 4
session 6: 2 6 6 2 6 2 3 1 2 1 4 4 8 7 6 2
session 7: 7 3 2 4 7 1 7 2 3 2 2 9 3 5 4 1
session 8: 1 1 8 3 2 1 (17) 3 1 2 (15) 2 1 3 3 1 (10) (16) 6 1 4 2
session 9: 2 3 (14) 3 8 3 2 1 (13) 8 2 2 2 1 4
Those are results from approx. 1000 spins.
Now if we are only betting to hit and win between the 2nd and 6th spin then that would mean we dodge the occasional long run (such as the mammoth 21 in session 5).
In fact the worst session, if betting this way, would be session 8. We would go to the 15th leg of Atlantis' progression. But the beauty of his progression means that this really isn't a massive loss at all.
In all the sessions above, if someone could help me out here, a decent profit would have been made in almost all sessions above and only minor losses in 1, possibly 2?
This system is nice too, especially for those who don't like hanging around, because there are quicker hits and more plays.
Any comments or testing welcomed
BET WIN NET BLOCK
36
1 -3 0 -3 4
8 -3 0 -3 4
28 -3 12 9 4
32 0
4 -3 0 -3 4
8 -3 0 -3 4
8 -3 0 -3
14 -3 0 -3
27 -3 12 9
34 0
29 -3 12 9 4
19 0
9 -3 0 -3 3
26 -3 12 9 3
1 0
24 -3 0 -3 1
16 -3 0 -3 1
4 -3 12 9 1
31 0
7 -3 0 -3 4
2 -3 0 -3 4
16 -3 0 -3 4
4 -3 0 -3 4
0 -3 0 -3 4
0 0
31 0
9 -3 0 -3 4
7 -3 0 -3 4
36 -3 12 9 4
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Hi Buffalowizard,
This is a very small test. I used flat betting.
31 spins +6 Units..
I have one more set of spins..I will test. These spins are taken from this forum.
BET WIN NET
11
5 -3 12 9
5 0
2 -3 12 9
34 0
17 -3 0 -3
8 -3 0 -3
27 -3 12 9
24 0
2 -3 -3
13 -3 -3
19 -3 12 9
9 0
2 -3 12 9
21 0
25 -3 12 9
11 0
29 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
8 -3 12 9
32 0
32 -3 12 9
34 0
32 -3 12 9
19 0
34 -3 0 -3
17 -3 0 -3
1 -3 0 -3
15 -3 0 -3
13 -3 0 -3
24 0
9 -3 0 -3
7 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
25 -3 12 9
0 0
18 0
25 -3 0 -3
30 -3 0 -3
7 -3 0 -3
26 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
9 0
30 -3 0 -3
14 -3 0 -3
30 -3 0 -3
19 -3 0 -3
19 -3 0 -3
20 0
15 -3 0 -3
36 -3 0 -3
11 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
26 -3 12 9
20 0
30 -3 0 -3
3 -3 0 -3
31 -3 0 -3
23 -3 12 9
27 0
0 -3 0 -3
32 -3 0 -3
10 -3 0 -3
18 -3 0 -3
23 -3 12 9
3 0
13 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
18 -3 0 -3
4 -3 12 9
26 0
1 -3 0 -3
8 -3 0 -3
16 -3 0 -3
5 -3 0 -3
26 -3 12 9
23 0
20 -3 12 9
3 0
13 -3 0 -3
12 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
27 -3 0 -3
2 -3 12 9
36 0
9 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
32 -3 12 9
17 0
31 -3 0 -3
27 -3 0 -3
16 -3 12 9
32 0
22 -3 0 -3
12 -3 0 -3
14 -3 0 -3
23 -3 0 -3
--------------------------------
This time I played for 100 spins and the result is +6 Units..
As I mentioned earlier, I'm not using any progression. But, I guess if we use a decent progression results can be very good..
Quote from: dhoola on May 20, 2010, 03:03:26 PM
BET WIN NET
11
5 -3 12 9
5 0
2 -3 12 9
34 0
17 -3 0 -3
8 -3 0 -3
27 -3 12 9
24 0
2 -3 -3
13 -3 -3
19 -3 12 9
9 0
2 -3 12 9
21 0
25 -3 12 9
11 0
29 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
8 -3 12 9
32 0
32 -3 12 9
34 0
32 -3 12 9
19 0
34 -3 0 -3
17 -3 0 -3
1 -3 0 -3
15 -3 0 -3
13 -3 0 -3
24 0
9 -3 0 -3
7 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
25 -3 12 9
0 0
18 0
25 -3 0 -3
30 -3 0 -3
7 -3 0 -3
26 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
9 0
30 -3 0 -3
14 -3 0 -3
30 -3 0 -3
19 -3 0 -3
19 -3 0 -3
20 0
15 -3 0 -3
36 -3 0 -3
11 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
26 -3 12 9
20 0
30 -3 0 -3
3 -3 0 -3
31 -3 0 -3
23 -3 12 9
27 0
0 -3 0 -3
32 -3 0 -3
10 -3 0 -3
18 -3 0 -3
23 -3 12 9
3 0
13 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
18 -3 0 -3
4 -3 12 9
26 0
1 -3 0 -3
8 -3 0 -3
16 -3 0 -3
5 -3 0 -3
26 -3 12 9
23 0
20 -3 12 9
3 0
13 -3 0 -3
12 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
27 -3 0 -3
2 -3 12 9
36 0
9 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
0 -3 0 -3
32 -3 12 9
17 0
31 -3 0 -3
27 -3 0 -3
16 -3 12 9
32 0
22 -3 0 -3
12 -3 0 -3
14 -3 0 -3
23 -3 0 -3
--------------------------------
This time I played for 100 spins and the result is +6 Units..
As I mentioned earlier, I'm not using any progression. But, I guess if we use a decent progression results can be very good..
Hi Dhoola
Thanks for taking an interest. I for one, think that this has a lot of potential. Your flat betting results are very encouraging.
As I mentioned before, using Atlantis' progression for my 4 step system could work brilliantly with this.
1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,5,5... etc...
On a win (say it was on the third bet of 3) and you are still behind, instead of incrementing stake by 1 unit for next qualifier, continue betting on the next qualifier from that last win point eg: third bet of 3
Stops stakes rising faster and still good.
Lets keep testing with this
Also dhoola,
Please look into getting a hit only between 2-6. This should prevent potentially long runs without hits such as 16-21
Buffalo
Well, I looked for a hit in less than or equal to 5 spins...Is that correct?
:)
Quote from: dhoola on May 20, 2010, 04:07:20 PM
Well, I looked for a hit in less than or equal to 5 spins...Is that correct?
:)
I mean to start betting after 1 loss, and stopping on the 6th bet if no hit. It's just something I was looking at, as there are quite a few hitting on the 6th, and not as many hitting on the 1st.
Hope Im making sense with this.
I got it. Yes, I noticed that too... But, I wanted to test this on a step-by-step basis.
The first test is positive with flat betting. So, the next step is to tweak it as per the suggested progression.
I will keep you posted on further testing..
Quote from: dhoola on May 20, 2010, 11:38:53 PM
I got it. Yes, I noticed that too... But, I wanted to test this on a step-by-step basis.
The first test is positive with flat betting. So, the next step is to tweak it as per the suggested progression.
I will keep you posted on further testing..
That's right dhoola,
I Look forward to yours and others results on this.
Buffalo
From wiesbaden 20th may table3
Below are the amount of spins before repeat hits on a 9 Block:
5 1 4 1 4 7 2 2 8 4 1 3 2 1 4 3 2 (14) 8 1 6 8 5 4 2 5 6 3 6 4 3 5 4 (21) 1 3 8 1 4 3 4 6 6 3 1 2 (16) 2 3 2 3 6 1
On reflection, perhaps it's better to bet between 3-8, or even go six steps between 2-8. I'm sure Atlantis' progression should hold up with this system over 6 steps each level.
We are betting 9 numbers instead of 12 after all
Stake Profit/Loss
2 = 1 +9
3 = 1 +6
4 = 1 +3
5 = 1 0
6 = 1 -3
7 = 1 –6
8 = 2 0
9 = 2 –6
10 = 2 –12
11 = 2 –18
12 = 2 –24
13 = 2 –30
14 = 3 –3
15 = 3 –12
16 = 3 –21
17 = 3 –30
18 = 3 –39
19 = 3 – 48
20 = 4 –12
21 = 4 –24
22 = 4 -36
23 = 4 -48
24 = 4 -60
25 = 4 -72
26 = 5 -42
27 = 5 -57
28 = 5 -72
29 = 5 -87
30 = 5 -102
31 = 5 -117
Can somebody confirm that this is correct as my maths isnt the greatest. Thanks!
Here are the sessions I posted earlier in the thread. I have worked out the profit/loss based on betting between 2-7, using Atlantis' progression.
session 1: 7 2 4 2 5 7 5 3 2 5 5 7 4 4 6 5 3 2 3 +36
session 2: 2 4 4 8 5 2 4 3 5 5 2 6 4 4 3 6 4 3 5 1 4 6 2 6 +39
session 3: 4 3 6 2 6 2 4 4 2 1 3 8 1 8 3 3 5 +36
session 4: 1 4 4 3 7 1 (12) 2 1 1 +6
session 5: 2 1 1 6 9 (21) 3 5 5 (10) 6 3 2 4 1 2 4 -3
session 6: 2 6 6 2 6 2 3 1 2 1 4 4 8 7 6 2 +15
session 7: 7 3 2 4 7 1 7 2 3 2 2 9 3 5 4 1 +29
session 8: 1 1 8 3 2 1 (17) 3 1 2 (15) 2 1 3 3 1 (10) (16) 6 1 4 2 -9
session 9: 2 3 (14) 3 8 3 2 1 (13) 8 2 2 2 1 4 +30
+179 total. I really like the way the progression, even when reaching the 3rd level, never seems to destroy this. The hits on numbers 2,3 and 4 steadily keep pushing it up.
Let me know your thoughts guys
Wiesbaden 22 May Table 3
2 2 2 1 3 1 3 7 4 (15) 8 2 1 6 6 4 7 3 2 6 7 1 3 5 5 1 1 4 4 1 1 1 6 1 1 4 2 1 6 2 5 (23) 1 2 7 3 (16) 6 5 1 9 2 1 1 3 1 8 (12) 1
Up until the last 8 and 12, it was at +60. That took it down to +30, unfortunately that is all the numbers from table 3 so I won't know if it hit after that. Either way, it ended in a plus again
Quote from: buffalowizard on May 22, 2010, 07:28:41 AM
Here are the sessions I posted earlier in the thread. I have worked out the profit/loss based on betting between 2-7, using Atlantis' progression.
session 1: 7 2 4 2 5 7 5 3 2 5 5 7 4 4 6 5 3 2 3 +36
session 2: 2 4 4 8 5 2 4 3 5 5 2 6 4 4 3 6 4 3 5 1 4 6 2 6 +39
session 3: 4 3 6 2 6 2 4 4 2 1 3 8 1 8 3 3 5 +36
session 4: 1 4 4 3 7 1 (12) 2 1 1 +6
session 5: 2 1 1 6 9 (21) 3 5 5 (10) 6 3 2 4 1 2 4 -3
session 6: 2 6 6 2 6 2 3 1 2 1 4 4 8 7 6 2 +15
session 7: 7 3 2 4 7 1 7 2 3 2 2 9 3 5 4 1 +29
session 8: 1 1 8 3 2 1 (17) 3 1 2 (15) 2 1 3 3 1 (10) (16) 6 1 4 2 -9
session 9: 2 3 (14) 3 8 3 2 1 (13) 8 2 2 2 1 4 +30
+179 total. I really like the way the progression, even when reaching the 3rd level, never seems to destroy this. The hits on numbers 2,3 and 4 steadily keep pushing it up.
Let me know your thoughts guys
If you take your session 4 result, you are only up +6. You had 5 winning situations. I think the progression is not strong enough. I have dealt with a system very similar before. I have posted it in this forum. Check it out if you want. I think I like that progression better. Maybe we should combine your bet selection with my progression. Maybe.......I don't know.
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/the-grandpa-way-revisitied/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/the-grandpa-way-revisitied/)
Quote from: keel44 on May 22, 2010, 10:10:23 PM
If you take your session 4 result, you are only up +6. You had 5 winning situations. I think the progression is not strong enough. I have dealt with a system very similar before. I have posted it in this forum. Check it out if you want. I think I like that progression better. Maybe we should combine your bet selection with my progression. Maybe.......I don't know.
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/the-grandpa-way-revisitied/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/the-grandpa-way-revisitied/)
Hi Keel,
Thanks a lot for your link. I will use the progression and post back the updated results. Maybe you're right, this system is strong enough to use a more positive prog.
BW
Hi
This is using Keels progression 11,22,33,44,55 etc.
Although I was playing it for 6 spins each time, so 11,22,33 Stop 44,55,66 stop. etc
session 1: 7 2 4 2 5 7 5 3 2 5 5 7 4 4 6 5 3 2 3 +177 (wow!)
session 2: 2 4 4 8 5 2 4 3 5 5 2 6 4 4 3 6 4 3 5 1 4 6 2 6 +222
session 3: 4 3 6 2 6 2 4 4 2 1 3 8 1 8 3 3 5 +45
session 4: 1 4 4 3 7 1 (12) 2 1 1 +42
session 5: 2 1 1 6 9 (21) 3 5 5 (10) 6 3 2 4 1 2 4 -18
session 6: 2 6 6 2 6 2 3 1 2 1 4 4 8 7 6 2 +69
session 7: 7 3 2 4 7 1 7 2 3 2 2 9 3 5 4 1 +84
session 8: 1 1 8 3 2 1 (17) 3 1 2 (15) 2 1 3 3 1 (10) (16) 6 1 4 2 -102
session 9: 2 3 (14) 3 8 3 2 1 (13) 8 2 2 2 1 4 -18
+501
Results speak for themselves although is obviously going to be more of a bumpy ride given the aggressive nature.
Definately needs more testing from everyone, as this looks real good, thanks keel
BW
Quote from: buffalowizard on May 22, 2010, 04:54:42 AM
From wiesbaden 20th may table3
Below are the amount of spins before repeat hits on a 9 Block:
5 1 4 1 4 7 2 2 8 4 1 3 2 1 4 3 2 (14) 8 1 6 8 5 4 2 5 6 3 6 4 3 5 4 (21) 1 3 8 1 4 3 4 6 6 3 1 2 (16) 2 3 2 3 6 1
On reflection, perhaps it's better to bet between 3-8, or even go six steps between 2-8. I'm sure Atlantis' progression should hold up with this system over 6 steps each level.
We are betting 9 numbers instead of 12 after all
This session ended +183 using keels progression. Pretty good huh
Quote from: buffalowizard on May 22, 2010, 03:51:28 PM
Wiesbaden 22 May Table 3
2 2 2 1 3 1 3 7 4 (15) 8 2 1 6 6 4 7 3 2 6 7 1 3 5 5 1 1 4 4 1 1 1 6 1 1 4 2 1 6 2 5 (23) 1 2 7 3 (16) 6 5 1 9 2 1 1 3 1 8 (12) 1
Up until the last 8 and 12, it was at +60. That took it down to +30, unfortunately that is all the numbers from table 3 so I won't know if it hit after that. Either way, it ended in a plus again
+174 up until the last 2 losses. Hard to say where it would have gone. I would be very confident in saying that it would still be around the +100 units mark however
Wiesbaden 19th May Table 3
2 4 (16) 2 2 1 2 5 7 2 (15) 2 1 2 6 7 3 2 8 1 6 6 2 1 3 6 8 1 3 8 3 2 2 2 2 2 9 5 1 2 3 3 3 9 5 8 3 4 1 4 1 7 1 3 (11) 2
+114
using keels progression
BW
Running Total from my tests so far = +972 units
Wiesbaden 18th may table 3
1 1 (10) 6 (11) 3 1 9 2 4 6 1 4 2 3 2 5 1 5 6 4 2 3 3 (11) 2 (16) (10) 4 2 1 (16) (18) 1 1 5 (11) 2 6 6 1 1 3 1 1 3 8 5 5 5
(16) 5 3 1 2 2 1 5 2 2 2 1 1 8 4 7 2 1
A pretty horrendous session with many back to back losses, but still only ending at -60. Should have a couple of plus sessions coming after that one!
Running total +912
The tests have been pretty impressive so far, but just remember to have a limit on your profits and end the session. A +50 seems good. Also remember with that progression you could be down 400 or so, it recovers quickly, but you need more bankroll, you might even want to reset the progression even sooner than a new profit high.
Do you fall back any steps with the progression 1,1...2,2....3,3...ext.?? after a win?
Hi Keel,
I was resetting the progression back to the beginning after every win. As you say there can be scary moments with the progression. It'll suit some but not others more cautious.
wiesbaden 24 may 2010 table 3
2 1 7 2 1 4 1 1 4 2 4 3 1 1 4 1 2 1 1 7 1 4 1 2 1 3 5 9 9 3 (12) 3 8 9 3 1 3 (12) 8 2 2 9 6 4 1 (16) (17) 1 9 1 5 2 2 (14) 2 3 2 1
-93.........However it was at +174 before the rot set in (the first 12)
However, I am just recording the wiesbaden spins in their entirety
Running Total +819
wiesbaden 25th may table 3
(11) 2 1 7 1 1 3 1 7 3 9 4 4 4 2 2 2 1 9 2 1 1 3 2 1 2 1 1 9 2 9 5 4 1 2 8 1 5 1 2 1 4 4
+105
Running Total +924
By the way, all I am doing here is counting the amount of spins before a 9 Block repeats. Like this:
14 is in block 2, so bet bock 2
32 loss. 32 is in block 4 so bet block 4
9 loss. 9 is in block 1 so bet block 1
21 loss. 21 is in block 3 so bet block 3
27. Win
So thats a win after 4
I bet for a hit between the 2nd and 7th. If lost, then I wait for the repeat to come and then start betting again.
Are you resetting the progression on ANY win? Even if your balance is not at a new high point?
As you now know, I have played this method very similarly for quite a while. I have encountered a few situations where you are down 400+, but it fights back! I have lost 18 in a row twice, which is equivalent to 3 losing games of 6. We need to find a way to make this a little more safe. I really think you have something here. I'll think of something.
KEEL44
Hi Keel,
In this testing I have been resetting the progression back to the beginning after every win. I havent done any sticking to a certain point until in profit. So even if it I get a hit on the 12th leg of the progression and am -54, I will just start over from the beginning next time round.
Keel, I hope I have the right calculations regarding the progression and how much you win/lose on each step. Are you able to verify this for me?
By the way, you are right about the safety aspect. I havent seen any 3 losses yet, but been very close. Obviously in my testing it wil happen soon enough. Each wiesbaden table stats have about 400 numbers, so i have seen how common 2 losses are but not 3. The 2 losses, although make a dent in profits, do not overall affect the total.
Many thanks.
Wiesbaden 23rd May table 3
2 7 3 3 (12) 8 2 1 (10) 2 9 2 5 8 3 (10) 1 2 5 4 2 (21) 1 4 (10) 2 2 3 5 1 1 3 8 4 4 3 5 1 1 6 5 4 6 Ouch! Here comes the run of death>>>9 (16) (13) 9<<< 4
Damn...a 4 loss. Up until then I was at +75. Not sure how much loss that would be. Any ideas Keel?
Wiesbaden 17th May table 3
1 7 6 (15) 3 3 1 1 1 8 (12) 1 (12) 2 1 2 3 2 2 1 5 1 2 (13) (11) (10) 5 6 5 9 1 (10) 1 4 5 3 5 5 4 4 1 2 6 1 2 4 1 1 5 1 4 7 7
Another 3 loss here...I need someones help working out the win/loss after 18 legs of 9 numbers using the 11,22,33,44,55,66 etc
It wont be pretty im sure...something else is needed here, be it the progression or when we attack and for how long.
Unless your betting to hit between 10 and 16, then I dont see how you overcome those losses. And to wait for those could take a long time. hmm