Hi guys,
Had this idea, done minimal testing so would like your help and opinions.
Very straightforward.
Basically, you get the previous 4 spins, so for example:
24
12
13
28
Convert that into dozens, so:
2
1
2
3
You now bet against that pattern repeating. So you would bet 2 dozens each spin. If the next spin was dozen 3, then that's a win. The new 4 line would look like this:
1
2
3
3
So now you bet against dozen 1 etc.
I use the safer progression of 1,2,4,6.
So thats a loss of 26 units if lost, which is a fairly rare event. All the while you are picking up lots of +1 on the first attempt.
Give it a go and see for yourself.
Buffalo
When a zero hits, it's a matter of personal preference. I tend to take the loss, and retrack a fresh new set of 4 numbers.
Any ideas on the progression side of things would be helpful as the standard 1,3,9,27 seems too aggressive. It may work with this though who knows. It certainly gets a ton of hits before the 4 repeat exactly.
Quote from: buffalowizard on May 21, 2010, 02:52:36 PM
When a zero hits, it's a matter of personal preference. I tend to take the loss, and retrack a fresh new set of 4 numbers.
Any ideas on the progression side of things would be helpful as the standard 1,3,9,27 seems too aggressive. It may work with this though who knows. It certainly gets a ton of hits before the 4 repeat exactly.
Go to Turbo Genius' old site. He has this exact system presented with about a gillion spin tests. It definitely has merit. Not the grail, but as good as anything else I've seen.
Quote from: GLC on May 21, 2010, 03:03:29 PM
Go to Turbo Genius' old site. He has this exact system presented with about a gillion spin tests. It definitely has merit. Not the grail, but as good as anything else I've seen.
Thanks GLC, I wasn't aware of that.
In early testing I have done, it does seem to hold up well. Perhaps it needs a fresh boost over here
This seems interesting mate, I will test in some minutes. Thanks for sharing!
/Fripper
Quote from: buffalowizard on May 21, 2010, 03:19:56 PM
Thanks GLC, I wasn't aware of that.
In early testing I have done, it does seem to hold up well. Perhaps it needs a fresh boost over here
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Enjoy, George
Cheers GLC.
A similar idea, but with 18 numbers would be to follow the Highs and Lows and bet against the sequence for perhaps 5 or 6 spins, with a passive progression.
Paper test it first!
I tested this strategy 20 years ago starting from 3 to 10 spin long columns on dozens and columns. You can get up to 7 losses in row but sometimes you win even 24 spins in row. The best result I reached with 7 spin columns. You can do the same with ECs. Bet D against D or C against C or D against C (mixed D/C).
Interesting idea was to alternate 7 spins of dozens with 7 spins of columns like in the example: First 7 spins mark only!
D- C-D ~ loss
1~1 2
2 3 2
3 2 1
3~3 2
3~0 1
2 1~1
3 1 3
After zero you bet against the previous D/C (see true zero). Like 3D 0 bet 1/2 dozen. With strong progression like Leveller or Atlantis' one it could be a winner in long run.
Cheers Hermes
Hermes,
Sorry, but I didn't understand your last post. I have been looking at betting against a 5 spin sequence repeating. Hasn't happened yet. I know that it will, but do you win enough while you're winning to still come out ahead in the long run. I know that mathematically it shouldn't work, but how long would you have to test it to be confident it's a winner, or know for sure it's a loser.
GLC
Lots of good ideas guys, I'm sure there's something here we can work with.
What are the chances of a pattern of 8 repeating?
Wait for 8 spins. Say:
H
H
L
H
H
L
H
L
Then wait for two losses, so
H
H
Then bet the next six steps against it.
Nice thinking guys. I tested this yesterday, I waited for 6 spins and then I bet that not to repeat itself in the next 6 spins. I got a loss relative quickly, I played it with progression 1,2,4,8,16,32.
But I never thought of that you could wait for 2 losses, stupid of me. Which progression would you use?
Sorry for bad english
/Fripper
Quote from: Fripper on May 22, 2010, 03:43:09 PM
Nice thinking guys. I tested this yesterday, I waited for 6 spins and then I bet that not to repeat itself in the next 6 spins. I got a loss relative quickly, I played it with progression 1,2,4,8,16,32.
But I never thought of that you could wait for 2 losses, stupid of me. Which progression would you use?
Sorry for bad english
/Fripper
Hi Fripper,
I would use the same progression you used. Wait for 2 losses, use the progression. Loss of 63 units, not the end of the world and I'm sure you will pick up lots of winners along the way.
I havent done enough testing this way yet to comment, but a repeat pattern of 8 must be quite rare I would say
I got 7 repeats in row on dozens, probably column are even worse. Be careful on ECs I got there 10 repeats in row! Waiting for 2 losses in row is peanut on ECs. But the point is always the same, bet after one W.
Eg. LLLW, now bet! Make the roulette pattern working against you weaker and then attack! Then you re not worry if the patterns make even 20 repeats in row - you wait.
Hermes
Yes a repeat pattern of 8 would be very rare I think. Meybe play as Hermes says, wait to a win comes then play.
How to play it? Wait 8 numbers, then bet that it would not repeat itself. If a hit comes, then track another 8 spins or you use the 7 old and the new one you got?
/Fripper
Waiting 2 losses, no losses or 1 win will make little difference really. You just got to hope that you will miss that rare sequence when you play!
Ye, but it can't happen more than once in 63 sessions..
Quote from: Fripper on May 23, 2010, 08:51:48 AM
Ye, but it can't happen more than once in 63 sessions..
Lets do some testing then my good man!