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Title: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 04:12:46 AM
The name of the System maker is Jordan and he is in Victor's forum (nolinks://rouletteforum.cc)

Ok here we go:
the method is on ECs...1 EC everytime not all 3!!!!!
So pick up 1 and start

U must chose a pattern bet...any pattern bet!!! It doesn't matter which pattern as soon as you will NOT change it during play!!!
By pattern bet I mean:
eg.Bet the colour of the last
    or   bet the oposite colour of the last.
    or RR=R(RUN) and BR =B(CHANGE)
IN MY TESTING I USED THE LAST COLOUR FOR MORE EASY...I SUGEST U DO THE SAME SO U WILL NOT MAKE ANY MISTAKE.

so now you know where we bet
  Now lets explain HOW MUCH to bet(MM)
U will start by betting 1 chip.
U will have a pen and a papper and you will write
     Wins     Losses
eg.    w                      L
        w                      L
        w                      L
                              L   etc...

when you will see that you have eg 4 W and 8 L you will continue betting to the same pattern(eg last colour...we never ever change the pattern!!!!) but you will add 1 more chip in every new bet...(so 2 chips)
This is happening when we are in a stage that we have 4 more the Ls than Ws.
so eg if we have 7 W and 10 L we still bet 1 chips...But when it will be 7W and 11 L(4 Ls more) we will imidiatelly continue betting with 2 chips!
 we continue betting 2 chips until we are in a new pofit or close to the prinious one(if it made us hard time)...then we bet again with 1 chip.
now if we are in a stage that we are betting 2 chips and the deference between W and L is 8 more L than W then we imidiatelly bet 3 chips(+1 more).again until new profit.and then bet again 1 chip.
So 4 less    w   =bet 2 chips
    8 less    w   =bet 3 chips
    12 less  w   = bet 4 chips...etc...
In my tests I never had to bet more than 6.

that's it...
I posted all free all I need is more tests....          

ps. you must write down the Ls and the Ws no matter what was the order!!!
I mean that we arent looking for 4 consecutice losses!!!!we are looking for 4 or 8 or 12 etc overal losses!!!
and after every new + we are restaring writing down  the Ws and Ls.

Everytime that U will be betting Bigger(because you had losses) the accuracy of the bets will be becoming biger...because Randomness will have to balance the Ls and the Ws....and we are betting so safe that we have lot of spins to hunt the balance.  

We do not need the Randomness to make a perfect balance of Ls and Ws because we are betting with this mild progression...so we need less Ws than the Ls....isn t it great!!!isn t it reasonable?

Source: nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/bet-light-bet-heavy-but-always-safe!/ (nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/bet-light-bet-heavy-but-always-safe!/)
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 04:16:37 AM
He also mentioned that he has won 30X100 spins sessions all with profit

I think that this system is something like what spike and or Gizmotron do...maybe more close to Gizmotron .
I say this because they both say that they take advantage from randomness and they  are looking past spins!
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Spike! on July 17, 2010, 04:25:17 AM
Quotes from Jean-Claud:

"The BEST proof and Best example that Roulette can t been beaten is that as U can t find a system to win more than it loses ...U can t also find a system that lose more than the expected -2.7!!!So if u understood my little unexpirienced friend there are NO good or bad systems.here are NO good and bad selectionsALL ARE SAME!!!"

"U are so silly! I already told u that the only way to win is gain advantage with phisics in Roulette(VB-BIAS)"

"PPL that are still trying to beat roulette with maths or patterns are just ppl that are lazy and don t want to learn AP methods OR they just don t have the skills in their DNA."

"Man u are very new in Roulette.As Kelly posted feel free to test any idea of urs...We were there...We did that....
Nothing can beat roul;ette exept Bias and VB"

And on and on and on. Making fun of people who post systems, saying nothing beats roulette except VB, for months and months. And now he posts a SYSTEM? HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 04:39:06 AM
Spike take ur pills and go to sleep...
I already posted that I found it in an other forum and that it is just make me a good sense.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Spike! on July 17, 2010, 04:48:37 AM
I found it in an other forum and that it is just make me a good sense.>>>


HAHAHAHAHA!!! After all the misery you've given me, you little hypocrite? You must be joking..
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: buffalowizard on July 17, 2010, 04:57:52 AM
Jean Claude,

Give it some testing as I will too and let us know how you get on

BW
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 05:06:53 AM
I already tested it in 3 sessions of 100 spins.

+12
+3
+23
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: buffalowizard on July 17, 2010, 05:26:26 AM
Did you get into much trouble? what was the most chips you got up to?
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 06:00:11 AM
Man are u lazy??? :)
just test by urself like I did!~

2 more sessions

1)-6
2)+21
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: buffalowizard on July 17, 2010, 06:22:10 AM
No, just busy Jean Claude

Now do some more testing
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 06:24:32 AM
No the next post of tests will be urs.
we are all busy
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: medo on July 17, 2010, 06:24:52 AM
Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 04:16:37 AM
He also mentioned that he has won 30X100 spins sessions all with profit

I think that this system is something like what spike and or Gizmotron do...maybe more close to Gizmotron .
I say this because they both say that they take advantage from randomness and they  are looking past spins!

Who also mentioned winnings of 30x100 sessions????
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 06:26:26 AM
The person that made this system.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: medo on July 17, 2010, 06:31:21 AM
Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 06:26:26 AM
The person that made this system.
Thanks,am just having breakfast with him.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 06:32:07 AM
nice.
tell him that he gave us hopes! ;D

Everyone is looking in this thread like predators!
they need to see more testing resaults!
But they are so lazy that they don t want to test by themselves! ;D

Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: medo on July 17, 2010, 06:37:45 AM
Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 06:32:07 AM
nice.
tell him that he gave us hopes! ;D

It's not a hope,but the most of simpliest facts ever developed.
And don't give clues to Spike,cause he don't give any clues out.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 06:40:26 AM
So medo u are just saying that this is ur way of play? and u are winning with it?

and how will i give spike clues? I just copy/pasted a system.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: atlantis on July 17, 2010, 12:05:16 PM
Hi Jean-Claud,

Thanks for posting this. I like the idea of waiting for an initial loss of 4u before increasing by 1u.
It is working particularly well with the "chop and streak" method. (I posted on another forum)
I use on single 0 - real numbers.
I tested 4 sessions of 100 spins and they won +12, +13.5, +14, +22.5

When I am down 4u in the preliminary progression (playing at 1u) - I will then go into the 2up-2down progression rules - reverting back to 1u if level or ahead of my current highest amount. Highest bet made in above sessions was 4u.
So thanks to you and Jordan for helping to improve that method. It certainly makes a difference. :)

Cheers,
Atlantis.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: jomelon on July 18, 2010, 02:48:55 AM
I tried this system. .  and I firmly says ITS WORKING. .

I use betvoyager no zero roulette. .

Thank for posting and share this system. .

ozzy
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 18, 2010, 05:19:44 AM
My friend thank u for the nice words but I sugest u to test this system 1st as any system...

If u see in long run good resaults THEN use it.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: atlantis on July 18, 2010, 07:01:23 AM
Seems to work good if you wait for a difference of 4 losses in the win/loss registry at any particular level before increasing stake by +1.
Eg: if you are playing at 2 units and have won 4 times but lost 8 times at that level then it's time to increase to 3 units and start a new w/l count...

A.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: bombus on July 18, 2010, 07:24:12 AM
Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 17, 2010, 04:16:37 AM
...I think that this system is something like what spike and or Gizmotron do...maybe more close to Gizmotron .
I say this because they both say that they take advantage from randomness and they  are looking past spins!

I don't think this system is taking advantage of randomness. It is basically using a progression to hopefully ride out any variance.

Good enough for most, but probably completely juxtaposed to what Spike, Gizmo, et al, are on about.

Good luck with your testing guys, and please keep us privy to your results.

Cheers :drinks:
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: atlantis on July 18, 2010, 12:38:45 PM
Hi,

Quote
I don't think this system is taking advantage of randomness. It is basically using a progression to hopefully ride out any variance.
Good enough for most, but probably completely juxtaposed to what Spike, Gizmo, et al, are on about.
Good luck with your testing guys, and please keep us privy to your results.

Bombus may well indeed be right about that.

Here I present a very similar idea - betting every spin for 100 spins using FTL on color in the example - but you could easily apply it to your own or any other reasonable EC selection.
Betting using "cycle of 7 bets" method. Why seven? Well I've tried it with 10 but 7 has always been regarded as a "mystical" number and there are a lot of cycles that operate on the number 7 - including our own life cycles.
Quote
The number seven is important in many cultures and religions. There are seven steps to creating the Philosopher's Stone in the ancient science of Alchemy. There are seven days in a week, seven virtues and seven vices as well as seven branches in a menorah. There are Seven Wonders of the World, seven sacred sciences and seven chakras. In Greek Mythology, seven is the symbol of the Virgin. It is not possible to construct a perfect heptagon or to divide the circle into seven equal portions using only simple geometer's tools. Hence, seven is indivisible, unconquerable, and virginal.
To attempt to cite all the things included in this mystical number would require a library...

FOLLOW THE LAST COLOR

Casino Wiesbaden 01 JUN 2010 - Table 3
===============================
[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,28,No,0,0,0,0,500, *wait for 1st number

2,15,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Black
3,2,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Black
4,16,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Black
5,7,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red
6,36,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Red
7,14,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : Red
8,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : Red *503 stay@1u

9,36,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : Black
10,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red
11,35,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Black
12,26,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Black
13,27,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : Black
14,2,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red
15,33,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Black *502 incr to 2u

16,16,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500,2 : Black
17,4,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498,2 : Red
18,30,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Black
19,32,Bet,2,4,-2,2,498,2 : Red
20,26,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Red
21,15,Bet,2,4,-2,2,498,2 : Black
22,27,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Black *496 incr to 3u

23,35,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,493,3 : Red
24,12,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,490,3 : Black
25,23,Bet,3,6,-3,3,493,3 : Red
26,25,Bet,3,6,-3,3,496,3 : Red
27,28,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,493,3 : Red
28,2,Bet,3,6,-3,3,496,3 : Black
29,4,Bet,3,6,-3,3,499,3 : Black *499 stay@3u

30,30,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,496,3 : Black
31,8,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,493,3 : Red
32,2,Bet,3,6,-3,3,496,3 : Black
33,12,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,493,3 : Black
34,20,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,490,3 : Red
35,29,Bet,3,6,-3,3,493,3 : Black
36,31,Bet,3,6,-3,3,496,3 : Black *496 incr to 4u

37,25,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,492,4 : Black
38,18,Bet,4,8,-4,4,496,4 : Red
39,23,Bet,4,8,-4,4,500,4 : Red
40,10,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,496,4 : Red
41,13,Bet,4,8,-4,4,500,4 : Black
42,33,Bet,4,8,-4,4,504,4 : Black
43,6,Bet,4,8,-4,4,508,4 : Black *508 decr to 1u

44,22,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509,1 : Black
45,25,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : Black
46,32,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509,1 : Red
47,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : Red
48,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509,1 : Black
49,20,Bet,1,2,-1,1,510,1 : Black
50,22,Bet,1,2,-1,1,511,1 : Black *511 stay@1u

51,27,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,510,1 : Black
52,22,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,509,1 : Red
53,28,Bet,1,2,-1,1,510,1 : Black
54,1,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,509,1 : Black
55,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : Red
56,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509,1 : Black
57,12,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : Black *508 incr to 2u

58,9,Bet,2,4,-2,2,510,2 : Red
59,30,Bet,2,4,-2,2,512,2 : Red
60,13,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,510,2 : Red
61,33,Bet,2,4,-2,2,512,2 : Black
62,7,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,510,2 : Black
63,7,Bet,2,4,-2,2,512,2 : Red
64,36,Bet,2,4,-2,2,514,2 : Red *514 decr to 1u

65,34,Bet,1,2,-1,1,515,1 : Red
66,30,Bet,1,2,-1,1,516,1 : Red
67,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,515,1 : Red
68,8,Bet,1,2,-1,1,516,1 : Black
69,1,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,515,1 : Black
70,27,Bet,1,2,-1,1,516,1 : Red
71,28,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,515,1 : Red *515 stay@1u

72,10,Bet,1,2,-1,1,516,1 : Black
73,9,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,515,1 : Black
74,4,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,514,1 : Red
75,13,Bet,1,2,-1,1,515,1 : Black
76,30,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,514,1 : Black
77,1,Bet,1,2,-1,1,515,1 : Red
78,8,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,514,1 : Red *514 incr to 2u

79,34,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,512,2 : Black
80,14,Bet,2,4,-2,2,514,2 : Red
81,32,Bet,2,4,-2,2,516,2 : Red
82,35,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,514,2 : Red
83,15,Bet,2,4,-2,2,516,2 : Black
84,18,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,514,2 : Black
85,5,Bet,2,4,-2,2,516,2 : Red *516 decr to1u

86,32,Bet,1,2,-1,1,517,1 : Red
87,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,516,1 : Red
88,22,Bet,1,2,-1,1,517,1 : Black
89,14,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,516,1 : Black
90,18,Bet,1,2,-1,1,517,1 : Red
91,18,Bet,1,2,-1,1,518,1 : Red
92,13,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,517,1 : Red *517 stay@1u

93,32,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,516,1 : Black
94,15,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,515,1 : Red
95,5,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,514,1 : Black
96,9,Bet,1,2,-1,1,515,1 : Red
97,34,Bet,1,2,-1,1,516,1 : Red
98,16,Bet,1,2,-1,1,517,1 : Red
99,8,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,516,1 : Red *516 incr to 2u

100,7,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,514,2 : Black
101,18,Bet,2,4,-2,2,516,2 : Red *516 - STOP (100 bets)
[/table]


max drawdown=14
highest bet=4
games won=53; lost=47

Increase stakes by +1 if 7-bet result is less than previous 7-bet result, otherwise remain at same stake for next seven bets - unless result is equal or ahead of overall session high; in which case reduce down to starting stake of 1u.

Good luck,
A.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: A3on47 on July 18, 2010, 05:41:52 PM
What about the stop loss?
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on July 19, 2010, 09:35:56 AM
Jeez there are guys here with 10 different names...........Wonder how many members there really are compared to forum names.... Seems that these days you even get the same guy chatting away with himself  ;D It's crazy!

Viper, Jordan, Jean-Claud, Oldtimer etc. etc., I wonder what they all have in common.... ::)

Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 19, 2010, 11:36:36 AM
they have incommon that they all tought U VB... :)
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: medo on July 20, 2010, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on July 19, 2010, 09:35:56 AM
Jeez there are guys here with 10 different names...........Wonder how many members there really are compared to forum names.... Seems that these days you even get the same guy chatting away with himself  ;D It's crazy!

Viper, Jordan, Jean-Claud, Oldtimer etc. etc., I wonder what they all have in common.... ::)


Jakk,
Didn't laugh so loud for a long time.
She thought I went nut.
Title: Re: System from an other forum.seems good!
Post by: medo on July 23, 2010, 05:08:39 PM
Furthermore,this guy with all these names,is a sick man.
He needs a doctor to examine his head.