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Title: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 21, 2010, 06:58:40 AM
Hello.
I have observed Thousants of real continious spins(I belive some other old members have done it too)

I feel the need to to explain to all of u what I have obsearved through all these thousants of spins and IF we will all togeather coaperate ,co-work then maybe we can build a system that it a good winner(win more than it lose) :angel:

I will tell u the fact and then we should all try to think of how we can take advantage of it :safe prpgression ot flat ,bet selection etc. ;)

The fact:

If we will take 1 certain action(movement) and we will observe this movement we will see that:
1)this movement can not be happening forever
2)if this movement now is Not happening a lot this means that in the next spins IT WILL start happening more because Randomness MUST make a balance to ALL the movements!
3)If this movement will hit a lot of times between a little period,then this movement will dessapear in the next spins,because the OTHER movements must be in balance TOO!



By MOVEMENT I mean For example:
a certain EC is doing this : R B R B R B R B ....this should stop! and then this CHANGE movement must have a balance with the RUN movement like RRRRRRR or BBBBBBB or RR BB RR BB in order for the RUNS to catch UP the Changes....and of cource the opossite occurs!.

and other Example is with the Dozens or Colums...
3 movements there also:
1)RUN(same dozen hit)
2)change ( 2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1)
3)new dozen(1,2,3,1,2,3)


It was an idea....
I hope we will all work hard to make a good system from this fact of randomness.... :thumbsup:

Ps. IF gizmotron and spike are telling the truth that they have winning methods(I doubt) I think that are based on this principal.

what do u think ppl??? will we try to do anything about this?

The maths say that we can t win....but we are all here in order to try to find the best solution...aren t we?
maybe this observation of mine is the key to have a better Bet selection than the -2.7.

it is useless for all of us to be here and just judje eatch other....
the correct perpose of all being in here is to try make a good system by traiding opinions and have help in testings when the system will be enginiared ....and then if it ain t good enginiar and enginiar again....

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:
:give_rose: :give_rose: :give_rose: :give_rose:
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Nathan Detroit on July 21, 2010, 07:14:54 AM
By MOVEMENT I mean For example:
a certain EC is doing this : R B R B R B R B ....this should stop! and then this CHANGE movement must have a balance with the RUN movement like RRRRRRR or BBBBBBB or RR BB RR BB in order for the RUNS to catch UP the Changes....and of cource the opossite occurs!.




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This method was presented in detail 100 years ago. The heading for this method: HOW TO BREAK THE BANKAT FLAT STAKES  :ok:

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!! .
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 21, 2010, 07:18:20 AM
So Nathan do u mean that this method(according my observation fact) is being enginiared for the best????

Can U please post or show where it is this method?
Thank U.

..................
Ok i just saw that U modified ur post and If i can understand correct the "HOW TO BREAK THE BANKAT " is the name of this method?

can u please tell us where we can find the instraction?
thanks :)
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Nathan Detroit on July 21, 2010, 07:27:02 AM
It is for the experienced player.

Sorry I do not recommend  systems  . But you seem to be on the right track.  You will discover   when to bet the intermittence and when  to bet the run .

Check the archives here at VLS for Nathan Detroit`s posts, etc .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 21, 2010, 07:40:39 AM
Thank you for the info But NOONE told u to recomend any system...
I just asked u to tell me where I can find the Complete Instractions of it....

and BTW is this the system that u are plaiying till today?
If NOT then it isn t a winning one... :D
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Nathan Detroit on July 21, 2010, 07:59:10 AM
When the occasion arises I do play this  method.  Here in the USA we  cannot sit out spins   and have to stand in order to play certain methods.

If I am the only player  at a  table then even standing would not help  me  as there is no  action. Remember  this  method was played 100  years ago in Monte  Carlo at a  more  leisurely  pace   at that  time  in history.

Therefore don`t be HASTY with your judgement. I reject your last sentence.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: xman1970 on July 21, 2010, 08:01:40 AM
I will save you some time JC.....

I think what ND is on about is here :-

nolinks://nolinks.archive.org/stream/montecarloanecdo00bethiala#page/n1/mode/2up (nolinks://nolinks.archive.org/stream/montecarloanecdo00bethiala#page/n1/mode/2up)


Happy hunting  ;)
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 21, 2010, 08:04:34 AM
Ok thank U Nathan I will not dizzy u with any other questions..

xman

thank you too man!
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on July 21, 2010, 08:07:57 AM
If a EC is producing RRBRBRRRBRBRRRBRRRBRBRRRBR what you are saying is that because R was running that B will start running when it changes. How do you know when it is going to change.....also......How do you know that B didn't have a run earlier and that R is just catching up?  ::)
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 21, 2010, 08:09:39 AM
JAKK

This is why I posted it in Brainstorming section...for all of us to think
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Nathan Detroit on July 21, 2010, 08:12:54 AM
xman,

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! :yahoo:


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 21, 2010, 08:23:37 AM
Yes I read it...but I think there is a better way to take advanatge of the Runs and changes.
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Nathan Detroit on July 21, 2010, 08:25:07 AM
jakkal,

The action  at the wheel will tell you  when  to play the run  and when to stop playing the run and go back for the intermittence.

Actually the author  recommends that there are 2  players  one  for the intermittence  and the other for the  run.
But   by using 2 bankrolls  one  player can  handle this  by himself. :ok:


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Jean-Claud on July 21, 2010, 08:29:45 AM
So nathan U play it exactly as in the book?? or have u made any development?
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Nathan Detroit on July 21, 2010, 09:19:04 AM
Jean -C

Exactly as the book says. ONE  dominant only plus the opposite one for the run but not both concurrently as he stated in his book.

If I follow an author`s method  I   follow it as closely as possible  and don`t attempt to tweak it. :nono:  

Read especially the breakdown of the 1000 spins . ( 250 coups of one ,126 runs  of two , etc.etc.)

If 0 occurs  wait for the opportunity to resume betting with your selected dominant.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: medo on July 23, 2010, 05:49:20 PM
Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 21, 2010, 08:09:39 AM
JAKK

This is why I posted it in Brainstorming section...for all of us to think
Meaning,for you to think.
This part most of us have solved,only it seems that you are far behind,you
will never learn cause of your wrong attitude.
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: atlantis on August 06, 2010, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on July 21, 2010, 08:25:07 AM
The action  at the wheel will tell you  when  to play the run  and when to stop playing the run and go back for the intermittence.

You will discover when to bet the intermittence and when to bet the run .

Nathan Detroit

Hi Nathan,

Can you explain this a little bit more. When do you think the optimum time is to switch from run to chop and vice-versa?
Thanks,

A.
Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: Nathan Detroit on August 20, 2010, 07:10:41 PM
atlantis  ,

I have send  you a message .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!



Title: Re: Let me explain u of a fact that can lead us to make a possible winning ssystem.
Post by: schoenpoetser on August 21, 2010, 05:21:33 AM
I am a dutch new member and not so familiar with this forum. You send me a message but ican`t find it. My emailadress is bouma7@msn. com.