I ordered the European Roulette book by Kimo Li and waited for two months for it. I have played roulette for twenty two years and was hoping to find something new in the book . Many people are talking about Kimo Li in this site. That's what made me go for the book. I was waitng day and night for the book,when I got it I spend whole day and night with it.
To my big surprised there was not even one strategy in it. The book is only describing the board in different angles. The so called Exact Number Doctrine has also not worked out. I played the matrix System found in the forum and lost more that USD 6000 one whole day and night. I am totally down. I was better when I was playing Big,small and orphans ,opposite and neighbours on the board. I have lost all my Bankroll.
I have no money to play now,once I get money I will continue with my old system .
Sorry about your loss, it really is money wasted.
You're right. The "predict the correct number" thing is only a catchphrase to get you to buy the book. The latter is good if you want to learn about the table/wheel layout, but it's useless if you're looking to actually make money from roulette.
They would tell you it's the key to making your own holy grail etc, but that's nonsense. No one of those who make the claims regarding Kimo's material ever proved it via a real test where statistical significance is established (ruling out any chance of randomness). If anyone is willing to step up and take a real test, let me know. I won't hold my breath. ::)
on page 108 it is wirtten cast vote on the website mentioned . But I can't find where to cast vote on that website.
I was waitng day and night for the book,when I got it I spend whole day and night with it.
To my big surprised there was not even one strategy in it.>>>
Yes, Kimo Li and his methods are a vast waste of time. Now he'll come here and wink and chuckle and say something profound (and meaningless) and disappear. Oh well, you get what you pay for.
Quote from: kush123 on August 12, 2010, 02:27:10 AM
I ordered the European Roulette book by Kimo Li and waited for two months for it. I have played roulette for twenty two years and was hoping to find something new in the book . Many people are talking about Kimo Li in this site. That's what made me go for the book. I was waitng day and night for the book,when I got it I spend whole day and night with it.
To my big surprised there was not even one strategy in it. The book is only describing the board in different angles. The so called Exact Number Doctrine has also not worked out. I played the matrix System found in the forum and lost more that USD 6000 one whole day and night. I am totally down. I was better when I was playing Big,small and orphans ,opposite and neighbours on the board. I have lost all my Bankroll.
I have no money to play now,once I get money I will continue with my old system .
The problem with everyone is that they want the easy way out. If there is one thing you should of learnt in 22 years of roulette play is that there is no fixed mechanical system that will make you profit in the long run....FACT! Kimo Li's book as well as the Matrix and other startegies are all tools to assist you in your play. To read the book grab a matrix and go play roulette is no different than sending a kid (with no knowlege of guns) to war with a fully loaded Browning 5.0. My suggestion to you is to re-read the book. Look at sections like Nuke Quads, Pendulum etc. Ask yourself "What matrices can I create and how can I utilize it?" Never never never, does not matter if it's Kimo's work, or anyone elses, just jump into the fire and play. That you should know. Why didn't you test it? Whatever you played should of been tested and practised untill second nature. I reaaly feel sorry for you that you lost so much money. I know it hurts. I also hope you recover quickly. Don't go and blame Kimo though for your own mistakes. Loosing $6K in one day evening............what were you thinking mate? PM me when you get the chance.Quote from: Spike! on August 12, 2010, 03:21:50 AM
I was waitng day and night for the book,when I got it I spend whole day and night with it.
To my big surprised there was not even one strategy in it.>>>
Yes, Kimo Li and his methods are a vast waste of time. Now he'll come here and wink and chuckle and say something profound (and meaningless) and disappear. Oh well, you get what you pay for.
The only vast waste of time is you and your ramblings. I openly challenged you a couple of times and I will play Kimo in those challenges. You have always weaseled out of it. Even your own challenge you wimped out..you coward. You are nothing but an empty packet of potato crisps...........all noice but absolutely nothing significant inside.
this is interesting.
Kimo li methods are just Random betting like all methods...the proof is that this man lost 6K
::) Teo, Jean-claude, casinopitbull, Viper1,2,3,4 & 5, Jordan and all your other ............. let's call it personalities.........Explain to me how Kimo's matrix works also explain to me how the Nuke quads are used and how they are tracked. While you are at it explain to me how STAMP works. After that has been done. Explain to me how it is just random betting.
BTW. Just because you could not cut it in vb (BTW Forester told me you asked him a couple of weeks ago how to use 2 sec reference and play and adjust without using a card.) and you have not been able to use any other strategy ... well that must then mean that nothing works! Herb will most probably tell you that this news has now crushed him because it will mean that he cannot be successful either anymore just because you say so. So one more question? Why are you still here? You say vb doesn't work. You have told Steve that your VB is better than Steve's computers so obviously then his computers cannot work either. You say all systems fail (except your 20 HG systems................which all failed as well) So where are we now? And what are you still doing around roulette! CAUSE NOTHING WORKS!
Thank you.
Jakk
I was never casino pit bull.
and all the answers that u need from me just ask the poor man that lost so much money and he will explain to u.
Pie 8, Pie 5 Star 1, Star 2
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loungeplayer, kindly stop wasting webspace with more meaningless screenshots.
I've always seen a lot of talk and even bragging (like this guy loungeplayer) with regards to Kimo's methodologies, yet no body stepping forward and proving he has a real edge.
loungeplayer or whoever swears by Kimo's stuff, let's do a private test. You don't have to give me the actual method (in other words I don't care how you play), I'll just give you the spins and let's see if you can win enough to reach 4 standard deviations.
Until that happens, I will maintain that they don't work as that is what my experience with them showed me.
Pie 9, Pie 7, Star 2, Star 6
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5 spins later
Pie 6, Pie 5, Star 3, Star 4
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It would be very interesting to see this test completed instead of a bunch of screenshots.
iggy
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"Congratulations a**hole" >>> ? @NS....Please dont use foul language. No, I dont know Loungeplayer, so there goes the 'bias' explanation. Ken
No. :P
Just kidding. I didn't write it, it was already printed in the certificate template so no butthurt intended.
I KNOW you didn't write it but you made the CHOICE to post it. Ken
Here's a review of his book on Amazon for How to Pick the Exact number:
"It fails to deliver ANYTHING!! The author just describe the location of number on the roulette table and that is it. All rubbish theory never shows HOW to play systematicaly. It worth no CENT at all."
Here's a clue as to how to read reviews if there aren't very many. All authors on Amazon have their friends and relatives write glowing reveiws if they've read the book or not. I know this because I've done it for several authors I know. So only read the negative ones, they are way more reliable.
Quote from: Spike! on August 12, 2010, 10:21:21 PM
...All authors on Amazon have there friends and relatives write glowing reveiws if they've read the book or not. I know this because I've done it for several authors I know...
You're a very naughty boy, Spike!
Quote from: bombus on August 12, 2010, 10:33:19 PM
You're a very naughty boy, Spike!
Its the truth. Why do you think the first reviews of a book sound like they were written by the authors mother? Because they probably were.
Hi kush123,
when you can understand what I posted in those screenshots, that means you have understood the principles in that book.
the same tool works for some people and not for others (and do you wonder why?). I have been through what you are describing. When you can memorise the matrix by heart, drop me a PM if you want to discuss. If not, just treat those screenshots as 'meaningless' posts or of entertainment value. no worries. :)
there are some great members in this forum whose ideas have helped me to form strategies. be sure you can recognise those posts and information.
Quote from: kush123 on August 12, 2010, 02:27:10 AM
I ordered the European Roulette book by Kimo Li and waited for two months for it. I have played roulette for twenty two years and was hoping to find something new in the book . Many people are talking about Kimo Li in this site. That's what made me go for the book. I was waitng day and night for the book,when I got it I spend whole day and night with it.
To my big surprised there was not even one strategy in it. The book is only describing the board in different angles. The so called Exact Number Doctrine has also not worked out. I played the matrix System found in the forum and lost more that USD 6000 one whole day and night. I am totally down. I was better when I was playing Big,small and orphans ,opposite and neighbours on the board. I have lost all my Bankroll.
I have no money to play now,once I get money I will continue with my old system .
Steak & Kidney Pie with Mushy Peas.
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:)
Quote from: bombus on August 13, 2010, 02:37:12 AMSteak & Kidney Pie with Mushy Peas.
;D
... and another one:
Ham and Egg Pie with Salad and French Souce
Quote from: Jean-Claud on August 12, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
I was never casino pit bull.
and all the answers that u need from me just ask the poor man that lost so much money and he will explain to u.
In other words you have not a clue what it's about yet you felt the right to blabber away. Ever heard the expression "Look before you leap"
I was just lucky
Pie 4, Pie 6, Star 3, Star 4
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I love pie!
Quote from: loungeplayer on August 13, 2010, 04:59:57 AM
I was just lucky
No, you just feel like bragging in public roulette forums by posting screenshots of only winning bets.
Quote from: mistarlupo on August 13, 2010, 03:30:40 AM
;D
... and another one: Ham and Egg Pie with Salad and French Souce
Ham and egg pie?
That's a bloody quiche, mate!
Quote from: bombus on August 13, 2010, 07:35:36 AM
Ham and egg pie?
That's a bloody quiche, mate!
And she's called Lorraine! :-*
Eclipse can be used for 1 Pie and 2 Stars
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Eclipse can also be achieved using 2 Pies and 1 Star
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Pie 8 Star 3
Luck or Fiction or whatever? Your decide.... just sharing.
last post in this thread. Cheers and good luck.
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The thing is that guy wrote a book and he did not gave useful advice how to play. That makes it a useless book. Period.
If he didn't want to reveal is system (ha ha ha as if he has one...) that is acceptable. But then, he shouldn't write a book at all.
As for posting screenshots with winning spins... well, if someone is thaat stupid to fall for that, he deserves whatever money you can milk from him.
This whole thing is disgusting.
^ Fact.
Why do people think screen shots are proof of anything, they can be so easily faked. Either they're idiots or they think we are..
No need to. Just spend the day playing online (because you never go to a real casino) and take a screenshot whenever you get a hit.
Oh and hide your BR of course.