Very easy question, no need for issues. Is there anyone here that is an AP guy and from time to time also plays methods? Enjoys both? Does well on both? Ken
Quote from: Davey-Jones on August 25, 2010, 03:55:45 PM
I believe his name is sasquatch.
By that I mean you will be hard pressed to find such a person. I tried a year ago. They don't exist. And if they do, they aren't being honest about their abilities.
Hmm, no answers yet. I think Steve would agree. This COULD BE a fun or interesting topic, without arguements of course. Ken
Quote from: Mr J on August 25, 2010, 10:53:21 PM
Hmm, no answers yet. I think Steve would agree. This COULD BE a fun or interesting topic, without arguements of course. Ken
I told you. I actually tried to find someone who plays both sides of the fence. Those that do only play both for a short while. Eventually they end up picking the winning side. No one stays on the fence for long.
Now that is a polite, thought out, cool response. Its easy to do, thank you. Ken
Quote from: Mr J on August 25, 2010, 11:24:12 PM
Now that is a polite, thought out, cool response. Its easy to do, thank you. Ken
Thanks for not patronizing me champ!
Why would I do that? You answered WITHOUT being rude, very cool and very easy. Ken
If I gave full details I would only be accused of trying to sell. But the truth is I know plenty of players who do very well with AP. AP is not suited to everyone though - sometimes it can be very hard work. It comes down to where you play, methods you use, and the player's knowledge/experience.
These are estimates for what my players do: about 50% at least return their investment but lose interest because of the time and effort required, 30% make back their investment and a bit more then lose interest, 10% make a loss, 8% play regularly and do quite well, and about 2% make it a full time profession. Sopme players have literally earned hundreds of thousands. Some earn a thousand or perhaps just hundreds here and there. AP is the real thing, but again it is not for everyone.
For myself, managing roulette computer teams is partially how I earn a living. I dont bother with things like VB - just take the easiest route. Really I dont care if people dont believe it, but I'm one of the few that do this for real. If you visit me, as serious teams tend to, you see it for yourself instead of relying on absolute trash
I also look for methods but don't actualy play them..
Quote from: advantagesnob on August 26, 2010, 10:06:06 PM
Also, don't try AP. You won't grasp it because it's beyond your comprehension and it will forever remain out of your reach.
Agreed.
The little brains remain stuck in the primitive approach to roulette and have absolutely no clue what's going on in the real world of advanced roulette play. Not surprisingly, they're the ones that talk the most online while the real professional teams are out there doing their thing. People like Mr J do a great job at keeping the new comers away from AP.
By the way, Ken will probably think you're Davey Jones and act as if your opinion is not valid just because you're new to the forum. Ignore him and speak your mind.
"Everyday I say to myself, thank God for people like your Mr. J" >>> HI Herb, NS, DJ, etc etc etc etc etc etc. I win and you dont. Ken
Well... I'm not advantagesnob. Steve, check my IP.
Quote from: advantagesnob on August 26, 2010, 10:06:06 PM
I'm an AP player. I have been for many years.
Everyday I say to myself, thank God for people like your Mr. J.
They are dumb as hell, but they keep the game alive for people like me.
I'll say this once. If you're basically a "Mr. J. ", then you shouldn't play they game for more than a few dollars. Also, don't try AP. You won't grasp it because it's beyond your comprehension and it will forever remain out of your reach.
PS. I've met a couple of people from this board and have heard of some of you.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :give_heart:
And it goes on and on and on and on.....
"By the way, Ken will probably think you're Davey Jones" >>> You guys are terrible with your wording. I never said every new non-method person is DJ, I never said that. HOWEVER, when someone is new and....
A) Immediately starts posting how great AP is
B) Immediately starts telling about how he lost a ton of money playing a method
C) Does a bunch of posting, quoting ME (sometimes Spike) and ripping it apart
D) Goes on and on how great Herb, NS, DJ etc......they are wonderful guys that WIN
E) Posts in the same STYLE as past (or current) members, but a different user name
F) Put this all together. Not saying its DJ BUT IT IS someone similar, part of the 'crew'. Do I mind? Not really but these 'new' clowns are not too tough to spot. Usually, the true intensions of a new poster are shown before 120 posts, sometimes under the first 10 posts. lol I'm currently doing a little experiment with 'newer' members here. Dont ask what it is because then it'll get tampered with. Here's my analogy >> A new poster comes aboard and starts ripping the hell out of Steve because of computer stuff.
Odds are, its NOT someone who has never posted here before. It'll be one of the 3-4 goofs who have done so 20 times already. It gets old. This board has become more of a..... "I'll find something you said in the past, then I'll get you!"........In a nutshell, thats what the board LOOKS LIKE to a TRUE new person reading here. How many TRUE newbies did not want to register here because of all the WEIRD posts? I bet its alot. Ken
It isn't me. Check the IP's please Steve. I would like some vindication.
Like I SAID, it doesn't mean its you. Ken
Quote from: advantagesnob on August 27, 2010, 11:25:14 PM
Again, why are you a moderator?
Because he is asskissing Steve but actualy he doesn't have a clue how to be one... he mostly posts offtopic answers then deleting what he wants due to offtopic because you answerd on his offtopic post... I am actualy not surprised if that post will be deleted..
my posts don't get deleted very often but it is realy stu-pid to read thru half a thread because someone is abusing moderator status..
MR J
either stop deleting posts or learn how to post... Moderator should be someone to be look at by other members..
-That means no double, or triple posting
-No offtopic
etc.. these are just two where you are realy realy realy bad at
Kudos Boo Ray for having the balls to speak your mind. Both your posts make excellent points and I do hope they don't get deleted.
"either stop deleting posts or learn how to post" >>> Wrong answer acorn. The ONLY posts I deleted were that of foul language OR constantly insulting of others, ask Steve. Like it? Don't like it? I don't care. Move on, make some money with roulette! (or try :sarcastic:) Ken
Quote from: Mr J on August 28, 2010, 04:30:53 AM
Move on, make some money with roulette! (or try :sarcastic:) Ken
I just did.. I am back from casino and I made a nice profit.. BR x 6 if you want to know, but I was lucky - I know that.. It didn't want to stop hitting so I quit with a nice net of +2500...
Still.... learning how to post wasn't such a bad idea... I think many agree with me..
You made some money Boo Ray! Thats great.....a normal roulette post. Ken
My post was GREAT and I stand by it. This is a forum of hanging out, arguing, acting silly, pulling pranks, worthless polls and nothing related to roulette. This board has the numbers in terms of members BUT at Victors site and even at JPs board, they TALK about roulette. Yes, even JPs board. Ken
Quote from: Mr J on August 28, 2010, 11:42:01 AM
You made some money Boo Ray! Thats great.....a normal roulette post. Ken
yup you told me to do so... it was offtopic answer to your offtopic post :yes:
Quote from: advantagesnob on August 28, 2010, 11:42:37 AM
I think you're a very polarizing person that shouldn't be a moderator because you delete posts right and left
Mr J has a paranoid streak. He thinks every post is about him, I guess that's why he deletes everything. In truth, no one listens to him because they know he just uses the forums to boost his own lagging self-esteem. He's another failed, obsolete gambler - you can see that in his attitude. Others win and he doesn't, he never discovered how. He can't stand it. For example, he despises Davey-Jones and Noble Savage because they are a lot younger than him and already their knowledge is 1000% more advanced.
@Advantagesnob >> Please remove your link or I'll do it. Thank you, Ken
Thats fine, I did my job, I'm in the clear. Ken
I have a fair idea who advantagesnob is (it doesnt appear to be davey). I've removed the username as I believe the account was created to create a fuss, not to contribute.
How come I never get to be banned? It's not fair.
NS maybe you're a goodie two shoes, or maybe not
Quote from: Steve on August 29, 2010, 06:49:15 PM
I have a fair idea who advantagesnob is (it doesn't appear to be davey). I've removed the username as I believe the account was created to create a fuss, not to contribute.
Seeing as I am online in Canada the same time he is online in New Jersey, IT ISN'T ME! Appear means it might still be me.
I said this already....it may not be DJ but the guy is in the same 'crew'. Ken