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Title: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: cilxeskyd on September 27, 2010, 07:30:51 AM

Quick show of hands,

How many members are currently claiming to possess a HG bet. . ?

FYI, by 'HG' I mean a consistent winning bet for YOU.        (no luck involved)

You walk into the Casino 100% confident you'll walk out a winner. .     

No BS please. .         

(yes, that was directed at you!)


Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: Killroy Gentz on September 27, 2010, 08:19:28 AM
Killroy was here........ and at the casino. How do I show my hand online  :blink: You mean to tell me that not everyone here wins consistantly?  :o Shocker! Phone the reality police! 
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: MiniBaccarat on September 27, 2010, 10:25:46 AM
G'day,

I'm standing!!

Glenn.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: Jish on October 02, 2010, 11:22:51 AM
You can't make a formula for something with a negative expectation positive:) sure you can have long streaks and sure some guys claim to have the bet until it comes under scrutiny and the evidence magically dissapears
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: gizmotron on October 02, 2010, 12:19:25 PM
I do. You can play through the bad streaks by minimizing the damage. You maximize the good streaks by attacking vigorously and effectively. If you don't know how to do that then you have no right saying what can and can't be done, especially if you use probability statistics as your own personal crutch, and holy grail of failure.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: Jean-Claud on October 02, 2010, 01:32:25 PM
Noone
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: cheese on October 02, 2010, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: Gizmotron on October 02, 2010, 12:19:25 PM
I do. You can play through the bad streaks by minimizing the damage. You maximize the good streaks by attacking vigorously and effectively. If you don't know how to do that then you have no right saying what can and can't be done, especially if you use probability statistics as your own personal crutch, and holy grail of failure.

The only problem with this is, you often don't know you're in a good or bad streak until its almost over. The only system that really works is one that wins consistantly no matter whats happening.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: gizmotron on October 02, 2010, 05:28:51 PM
Quote from: cheese on October 02, 2010, 05:22:36 PM
The only problem with this is, you often don't know you're in a good or bad streak until its almost over. The only system that really works is one that wins consistantly no matter whats happening.

How would you know? You are wrong about knowing what the conditions are. Your advice is nothing but sophistry. Time to cut the cheese.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: John Gold on October 02, 2010, 08:29:53 PM
Quote from: cheese on October 02, 2010, 05:22:36 PM
The only problem with this is, you often don't know you're in a good or bad streak until its almost over. The only system that really works is one that wins consistantly no matter whats happening.

It is complex in my opinion because you can never be 100% certain of anything in gambling.
A small edge is still wide open to the short term variances that can deplete your bankroll at an alarming rate.
I tend to agree that you never really know excactly where you are until you have completed a particular phase or ended the session. However that does not mean you can't use your judgement along the way as Gizmotron suggests. I think it is prudent advice to reign yourself in if things are taking a turn for the worse and conversely adopt a more aggressive approach if things are going well.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: cheese on October 02, 2010, 08:39:34 PM
Quote from: Gizmotron on October 02, 2010, 05:28:51 PM
How would you know? You are wrong about knowing what the conditions are. Your advice is nothing but sophistry. Time to cut the cheese.

I'm not wrong. The conditions are often all over the place, nobody can tell what direction they're going in without knowing the next few outcomes, and nobody knows that. You're talking about being prepared for bad streaks and you often don't even know you're IN a bad streak until its too late. The only thing that works is a consistant system that has no good or bad streaks, it just has predictable results no matter what the conditions.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: gizmotron on October 02, 2010, 09:40:22 PM
Quote from: cheese on October 02, 2010, 08:39:34 PM
I'm not wrong. The conditions are often all over the place, nobody can tell what direction they're going in without knowing the next few outcomes, and nobody knows that. You're talking about being prepared for bad streaks and you often don't even know you're IN a bad streak until its too late. The only thing that works is a consistant system that has no good or bad streaks, it just has predictable results no matter what the conditions.

Let's break all that down.

1.) "The conditions are often all over the place, nobody can tell what direction they're going in without knowing the next few outcomes, and nobody knows that."

Just like all the math geniuses that play Roulette. You think that seeing the current conditions is all about predicting the future. And without that needed prediction device there can't be anything to it. Only one problem with that. You can see the current conditions without ever seeing the future. You might want to think about that.


2.) "You're talking about being prepared for bad streaks and you often don't even know you're IN a bad streak until its too late."

That's your problem. You react far too late. You must have no idea what to look for. And that doesn't bother you one bit to draw conclusions from your own lack of knowing. You are not qualified to comment. All you have is a childlike opinion and an impulsive reaction to being wrong.

3.) "The only thing that works is a consistent system that has no good or bad streaks, it just has predictable results no matter what the conditions."

That sums up your understanding of randomness perfectly. Your opinions amount to nothing more than "the blind attempting to lead the blind."
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: Herb6 on October 02, 2010, 10:29:18 PM
QuoteJust like all the math geniuses that play Roulette. You think that seeing the current conditions is all about predicting the future.

How would you know?

You can't do the math.  ;D
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: gizmotron on October 03, 2010, 12:04:14 AM
Quote from: Herb6 on October 02, 2010, 10:29:18 PM


How would you know?

You can't do the math.  ;D


I can do the algorithm and you know it. And I know how to set it up and you don't. That's because you are clueless. So you attack what you are too stupid to understand. You are stuck with your one bullet in your shirt pocket just like Barny Fife has. Snowman/Herb internet troll.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: cheese on October 03, 2010, 12:17:13 AM
Quote from: Gizmotron on October 02, 2010, 09:40:22 PM

3.) "The only thing that works is a consistent system that has no good or bad streaks, it just has predictable results no matter what the conditions."

That sums up your understanding of randomness perfectly. Your opinions amount to nothing more than "the blind attempting to lead the blind."

I know this much. You can 'read' random all day long and all it will give you is current conditions. It will never tell you whats coming next with any certainty. You can guess or predict or whatever, but it won't make the 'bad streak', as you call it, not happen. And you won't even realize its a bad streak until you're well into it. The very fact you're having bad streaks means you have poor method of play.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: Herb6 on October 03, 2010, 12:18:12 AM
Gizmo,

You've bragged about being a math idiot for years on GG and here.  Consequently, you don't know what's considered random and what's not.  :)
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: cheese on October 03, 2010, 12:36:19 AM
Quote from: Herb6 on October 03, 2010, 12:18:12 AM
Gizmo,

You've bragged about being a math idiot for years on GG and here.  Consequently, you don't know what's considered random and what's not.  :)

Did Spike have bad streaks? I don't think he did. He was full of it too, but at least he made up a believable system where he won consistantly. Gizmo doesn't seem to grasp what that means.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: gizmotron on October 03, 2010, 12:45:17 AM
Quote from: cheese on October 03, 2010, 12:17:13 AM
I know this much. You can 'read' random all day long and all it will give you is current conditions. It will never tell you whats coming next with any certainty. You can guess or predict or whatever, but it won't make the 'bad streak', as you call it, not happen. And you won't even realize its a bad streak until you're well into it. The very fact you're having bad streaks means you have poor method of play.

I don't know why I bother. I don't give a damn about a prediction of the future. I don't care if a bad stretch happens. It's not going to take me out of the game, and it will never reach deep enough to make up for all the predictions made by probability statistics that you are married to. You don't know why so give it up. You just don't know something so admit it.

Who cut the cheese?
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: cheese on October 03, 2010, 02:15:34 AM
Quote from: Gizmotron on October 03, 2010, 12:45:17 AM
I don't know why I bother. I don't give a damn about a prediction of the future. I don't care if a bad stretch happens. It's not going to take me out of the game, and it will never reach deep enough

How do you know? All you need is a couple bad stretches from hell and you're right where everybody else is. losing at the house edge. I don't know any other way to say it. If you truly knew what you were doing, there would be no bad stretches. Just small corrections while you went in another direction.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: Kelly on October 03, 2010, 03:28:57 AM
Gizmo has for the last 9 months promised me that the world was about to change.  Whats keeping him up ?
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: gizmotron on October 03, 2010, 12:05:48 PM
Quote from: cheese on October 03, 2010, 02:15:34 AM
How do you know? All you need is a couple bad stretches from hell and you're right where everybody else is. losing at the house edge. I don't know any other way to say it. If you truly knew what you were doing, there would be no bad stretches. Just small corrections while you went in another direction.

You are just guessing. That is completely understandable too. To think that there are no bad stretches in your world is so far from reality that you must be living is some kind of dream world. I do admire that though. Imagine playing Roulette without any downside to it. It would be like an ATM machine whenever you wanted more cash.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: gizmotron on October 03, 2010, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: Kelly on October 03, 2010, 03:28:57 AM
Gizmo has for the last 9 months promised me that the world was about to change.  Whats keeping him up ?

Pushy little Kelly. If things change in a few years that will be soon enough. After all some of you believe that this must have all been proven to fail, you know, all those people with computers for the past 300 years.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: gizmotron on October 03, 2010, 07:40:25 PM
Quote from: Herb6 on October 03, 2010, 12:18:12 AM
Gizmo,

You've bragged about being a math idiot for years on GG and here.  Consequently, you don't know what's considered random and what's not.  :)

Sophistry, the argument you always win at, in your little world, snowman's world. I've shown that I'm a programmer, not a cosmology  theorist like you. See, anyone can play. You have to be joking about me not knowing what randomness is with regards to Roulette, you just have to be. You've just lied about me. You should be banned. Anyone can see that you are just an internet troll.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: Herb6 on October 03, 2010, 08:19:32 PM
Gizmo,

You don't comprehend randomness if you don't know how to do the math.  This also means that your programming skills are limited.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: gizmotron on October 03, 2010, 08:29:33 PM
Quote from: Herb6 on October 03, 2010, 08:19:32 PM
Gizmo,

You don't comprehend randomness if you don't know how to do the math.  This also means that your programming skills are limited.

Bull crap. It's you that have lame conclusions, math or not. Go bother some girl scout troll.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: pins on October 03, 2010, 10:33:05 PM
if anybody had a winning system why would they waste time here posting. or why would they want to sell it. face the facts roulette is unbeatable winning is just luck.   where could you use the roulette computor. you cannot use a mobile phone in my casino. :diablo:
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: Steve on October 03, 2010, 10:38:14 PM
Pins, roulette computer application is LEGAL in roughly half the jurisdictions. You never apply it in the open though - it's covert and never seen. It's not for everyone - you need balls.
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: pins on October 04, 2010, 02:54:28 AM
they might bury you in the desert. have those days gone.   
Title: Re: Would The Real HG Bet, Please Stand Up..
Post by: Perry Docks on October 06, 2010, 08:45:29 AM
Quote from: cheese link=topic=17029. msg121243#msg121243 date=1286076979
Did Spike have bad streaks?

Only when he wore white underpants. .