So far I analyzed 113 sessions it's related roughly to 15.000 spins..
2 or 3 or 4 number bets.. maximum risk 2000 euro per session..
Here the results so far :
Som van profit bet
ranking 3 4 2 Eindtotaal
1 33 192 225
2 60 168 228
3 144 144
4 588 588
5 30 1040 1070
6 657 840 1497
7 261 700 961
8 297 672 969
9 327 600 927
10 372 372
11 465 360 825
12 240 240
13 448 448
14 786 200 986
15 351 232 583
16 306 372 678
17 258 372 630
18 232 232
19 200 200
21 312 312
23 100 100
24 104 104
26 84 84
27 208 208
39 -1948 -1948
52 -1959 -1959
46 50 50
total 1956 6748 50 8754
Aantal van freq
profit Totaal
-1959 1
-1948 1
24 6
28 6
30 3
32 6
33 1
84 8
100 12
104 16
112 11
116 4
120 14
124 11
219 3
258 1
261 1
297 1
306 1
351 1
393 2
327 1
465 1
50 1
total 113
What do you think ?
:-[ :-X :-\ :girl_wacko: :scratch_ones_head:
Huh???
So far 130 sessions and a profit of 10177 euro
every session contains a risk of 2000 euro
mostly a4 bet sometimes a 3 bet, very rare a 2 bet..
only 2 missings in 130 sessions..
here the breakdown:
ranking 3 4 2
1 33 224 257
2 60 252 312
3 216 216
4 156 672 828
5 30 1248 1278
6 657 1080 1737
7 468 800 1268
8 297 672 969
9 327 840 1167
10 372 372
11 465 360 825
12 240 240
13 448 448
14 786 200 986
15 351 232 583
16 306 372 678
17 258 372 630
18 232 232
19 200 200
21 312 312
23 100 100
24 104 104
26 84 84
27 208 208
39 -1948 -1948
52 -1959 -1959
46 50 50
total 2319 7808 50 10177
So far 140 sessions -- only 2 missing
2000 euro bet per session
profit: 11400 euro...
Wait for the last 2cold numbers--- add from a fixed determined list 2 already played numbers makes a 4 bet..
in rare cases, because of the list it will be 3 number bet..
breakdown so far:
Som van profit bet
ranking 3 4 2 Eindtotaal
1 33 224 257
2 60 252 312
3 216 216
4 156 672 828
5 30 1508 1538
6 657 1080 1737
7 675 1100 1775
8 297 672 969
9 327 960 1287
10 372 372
11 465 360 825
12 240 240
13 560 560
14 786 200 986
15 351 232 583
16 306 372 678
17 258 372 630
18 232 232
19 200 200
21 312 312
23 100 100
24 208 208
26 84 84
27 208 208
39 -1948 -1948
52 -1959 -1959
46 50 50
22 120 120
Eindtotaal 2526 8824 50 11400
So far 150 sessions.... 2 missings....2000 euro risk...
profit:
12629 euro
I presume those 12, 624 EURO are safely tucked away in a bank or vault . Or.................do they exist only on paper for consumption on VLS?
N.D.
So far 160 sessions roughly 20.000 spins
2 sessions lost
Nearly 14.000 euro profit
98.8% not bad
breakdown:
Som van profit bet
ranking 3 4 2 Eindtotaal
1 33 224 257
2 90 280 370
3 240 240
4 156 840 996
5 237 1612 1849
6 657 1320 1977
7 675 1100 1775
8 297 784 1081
9 327 960 1287
10 384 496 880
11 465 484 949
12 360 360
13 560 560
14 1179 200 1379
15 351 232 583
16 306 372 678
17 258 372 630
18 348 348
19 300 300
21 312 312
23 100 100
24 312 312
26 84 84
27 208 208
39 -1948 -1948
52 -1959 -1959
46 50 50
22 120 120
29 66 66
25 104 104
3606 10292 50 13948
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on November 22, 2010, 09:42:06 AM
I presume those 12, 624 EURO are safely tucked away in a bank or vault . Or.................do they exist only on paper for consumption on VLS?
N.D.
Nathan,
So far just testing... but amazing results do'nt you think ?
Aantal van freq bet
spins-needed 2 3 4 Eindtotaal
1 1 7 8
2 3 11 14
3 11 11
4 1 11 12
5 2 15 17
6 3 12 15
7 3 12 15
8 1 8 9
9 1 9 10
10 1 4 5
11 1 4 5
12 5 5
13 5 5
14 3 2 5
15 1 2 3
16 1 3 4
17 1 3 4
18 3 3
19 3 3
21 3 3
22 1 1
23 1 1
24 3 3
25 1 1
26 1 1
27 2 2
29 1 1
34 1 1
39 1 1
46 1 1
52 1 1
1 27 142 170
So far I analyzed 190 sessions representing roughly 23.000 spins
I wait for 2 Cold numbers and correlate them with table-numbers..
like this:
wheel table
0 1
32 2
15 3
19 4
4 5
21 6
2 7
25 8
17 9
34 10
6 11
27 12
13 13
36 14
11 15
30 16
8 17
23 18
10 19
5 20
24 21
16 22
33 23
1 24
20 25
14 26
31 27
9 28
22 29
18 30
29 31
7 32
28 33
12 34
35 35
3 36
26 0
In very rare cases : a 2 number bet... a bit less rare a 3 number bet and mostly a 4 number bet.
Money management for the 4 number bet:
1 1 4 4 4 36 32
2 1 4 4 8 36 28
3 1 4 4 12 36 24
4 3 4 12 24 108 84
5 4 4 16 40 144 104
6 5 4 20 60 180 120
7 5 4 20 80 180 100
8 6 4 24 104 216 112
9 7 4 28 132 252 120
10 8 4 32 164 288 124
11 9 4 36 200 324 124
12 10 4 40 240 360 120
13 11 4 44 284 396 112
14 12 4 48 332 432 100
15 14 4 56 388 504 116
16 16 4 64 452 576 124
17 18 4 72 524 648 124
18 20 4 80 604 720 116
19 22 4 88 692 792 100
20 25 4 100 792 900 108
21 28 4 112 904 1008 104
22 32 4 128 1032 1152 120
23 36 4 144 1176 1296 120
24 40 4 160 1336 1440 104
25 45 4 180 1516 1620 104
26 51 4 204 1720 1836 116
27 57 4 228 1948 2052 104
So you can play 27 spins with a risk of 1948 euro/dollar.
2 and 3 are similar.
The breakdown of the 4 number bets:
Aantal van freq bet
spins-needed 4 Eindtotaal
1 8 8
2 17 17
3 11 11
4 11 11
5 17 17
6 13 13
7 12 12
8 8 8
9 10 10
10 4 4
11 4 4
12 6 6
13 5 5
14 3 3
15 4 4
16 3 3
17 3 3
18 3 3
19 3 3
21 3 3
22 1 1
23 1 1
24 4 4
25 2 2
27 2 2
39 1 1
total 159 159
the 3 number bet:
Aantal van freq bet
spins-needed 3 Eindtotaal
1 1 1
2 3 3
3 1 1
4 1 1
5 2 2
6 3 3
7 3 3
8 1 1
9 1 1
10 1 1
11 1 1
14 3 3
15 1 1
16 2 2
17 1 1
23 1 1
26 1 1
29 1 1
34 1 1
52 1 1
total 30 30
The purpose to define this system:
a mix of
cold numbers becoming hot and already played numbers...
I had only 1 loss in 159 sessions related to the 4 bet
I had only 1 loss in 30 sessions related to the 3 bet
no loss in the 2 bet (only 1)
Breakdown of the profits :
bet 4
Som van profit Totaal
Totaal 12388
bet 3
Som van profit Totaal
Totaal 1251
bet 2
Som van profit Totaal
Totaal 132
an amazing 99.4% in the 4 bet
96.7% in the 3 bet and 100% in the 2 bet
Overall:
Som van profit bet
spins-needed 3 4 2 Eindtotaal
1 33 256 289
2 90 476 566
3 27 264 291
4 90 924 1014
5 228 1768 1996
6 306 1560 1866
7 369 1200 1569
8 108 896 1004
9 126 1200 1326
10 108 496 604
11 123 496 619
12 720 720
13 560 560
14 369 300 669
15 129 464 593
16 264 372 636
17 132 372 504
18 348 348
19 300 300
21 312 312
22 120 120
23 132 100 232
24 416 416
25 208 208
26 102 102
27 208 208
29 117 117
34 117 117
39 -1948 -1948
46 132 132
52 -1719 -1719
total1251 12388 132 13771 98.9%
Risk roughly 2000 profit roughly 12.000
1 out of 6... not bad I guess..
Of course you can lower y'r risk reward management system...
200 sessions
in the 4 bet only 2 losses
Let's compare, taking a random 4 number bet..
Probability
in theory
95.45 %
actuals after 169 4 bets..
98.82 %
Profit:
12.647 euro
Does anyone have any idea what Rheti is doing here?
Just askin'...
Quote from: bombus on November 23, 2010, 09:17:52 PM
Does anyone have any idea what Rheti is doing here?
Just askin'...
Not too difficult.. you wait for the last 2 cold numbers of the wheel.
then I correlate in a simple way the last two cold wheel numbers with a table number ...like this:
wheel table (european)
0 1
32 2
15 3
19 4
4 5
21 6
2 7
25 8
17 9
34 10
6 11
27 12
13 13
36 14
11 15
30 16
8 17
23 18
10 19
5 20
24 21
16 22
33 23
1 24
20 25
14 26
31 27
9 28
22 29
18 30
29 31
7 32
28 33
12 34
35 35
3 36
26 0
so for instance 0+28 are the last 2 cold numbers of the wheel, I add 1+33
making a 4 bet of 0-1-28-33.
and start betting....
the theory said that after 27 spins betting the probability is 95.45%
after 183 sessions I have a 98.91% with only 2 losses
the theory claimed 8 losses...
so not bad I guess..
Apparently, it's the combination of cold becoming hot and already played numbers (which can be a repeater)
spins theory actuals deviation 185 sessions
1 20 11 -9
2 18 18 0
3 16 14 -2
4 14 12 -2
5 13 20 7
6 11 14 3
7 10 12 2
8 9 12 3
9 8 12 4
10 7 4 -3
11 6 4 -2
12 6 7 1
13 5 5 0
14 5 3 -2
15 4 5 1
16 4 3 -1
17 3 5 2
18 3 4 1
19 3 4 1
20 2 0 -2
21 2 3 1
22 2 1 -1
23 2 2 0
24 1 4 3
25 1 2 1
26 1 0 -1
27 1 2 1
177 183
Still positive:
spins theory actuals deviation 200 sessions
1 22 13 -9
2 19 18 -1
3 17 15 -2
4 15 13 -2
5 14 21 7
6 12 17 5
7 11 12 1
8 10 12 2
9 9 13 4
10 8 4 -4
11 7 6 -1
12 6 8 2
13 5 5 0
14 5 3 -2
15 4 5 1
16 4 3 -1
17 3 6 3
18 3 4 1
19 3 4 1
20 2 0 -2
21 2 3 1
22 2 1 -1
23 2 2 0
24 2 5 3
25 1 2 1
26 1 0 -1
27 1 2 1
191 197
theory actuals
95.45 98.50
4.55 1.50
9 3
Still very positive 210 sessions:
spins theory actuals deviation 210 sessions
1 23 13 -10
2 20 19 -1
3 18 16 -2
4 16 14 -2
5 14 21 7
6 13 18 5
7 11 13 2
8 10 14 4
9 9 13 4
10 8 4 -4
11 7 6 -1
12 6 10 4
13 6 5 -1
14 5 3 -2
15 5 5 0
16 4 3 -1
17 4 6 2
18 3 4 1
19 3 4 1
20 3 0 -3
21 2 3 1
22 2 1 -1
23 2 2 0
24 2 5 3
25 1 3 2
26 1 0 -1
27 1 2 1
200 207
theory:
95.45
actual
98.57
4.55 1.43
10 3
7 losses less... amazing after 210 sessions
Still positive after 220 sessions
14.538 euro positive and 1948 euro risk..
spins theory actuals deviation 220 sessions
1 24 13 -11
2 21 20 -1
3 19 17 -2
4 17 14 -3
5 15 22 7
6 13 18 5
7 12 14 2
8 11 16 5
9 10 13 3
10 8 4 -4
11 8 6 -2
12 7 10 3
13 6 6 0
14 5 5 0
15 5 5 0
16 4 3 -1
17 4 7 3
18 3 4 1
19 3 4 1
20 3 0 -3
21 2 3 1
22 2 1 -1
23 2 2 0
24 2 5 3
25 2 3 1
26 1 0 -1
27 1 2 1
210 217
95.45 98.64
4.55 1.36
10 3
theory actual
gee ...really good..
Still positive after 230 sessions
spins theory actuals deviation 230 sessions
1 25 13 -12
2 22 20 -2
3 20 17 -3
4 18 16 -2
5 16 24 8
6 14 19 5
7 13 14 1
8 11 16 5
9 10 14 4
10 9 4 -5
11 8 6 -2
12 7 10 3
13 6 6 0
14 6 8 2
15 5 5 0
16 4 3 -1
17 4 7 3
18 4 4 0
19 3 4 1
20 3 0 -3
21 3 3 0
22 2 1 -1
23 2 2 0
24 2 5 3
25 2 3 1
26 1 0 -1
27 1 2 1
220 226
theory 95.45%
actual 98.26%
6 spins profit
still not bad..
Still very positive after 240 sessions:
spins theory actuals deviation 240 sessions
1 26 16 -10
2 23 21 -2
3 21 18 -3
4 18 16 -2
5 16 24 8
6 15 20 5
7 13 14 1
8 12 17 5
9 10 15 5
10 9 4 -5
11 8 7 -1
12 7 10 3
13 7 7 0
14 6 8 2
15 5 5 0
16 5 3 -2
17 4 7 3
18 4 4 0
19 3 4 1
20 3 0 -3
21 3 3 0
22 2 1 -1
23 2 2 0
24 2 5 3
25 2 3 1
26 1 0 -1
27 1 2 1
229 236
theory:
95.45%
actual:
98.33%
Breakdown of the risk/reward factors with stopping on different spins:
Aantal van freq spin-27 spin-25 spin-19 spin-16 spin-14 spin-12 spin-9 spin-6 spin-4 spin-2
spins-needed 4
1 16 512 512 512 512 512 512 512 512 512 512
2 21 588 588 588 588 588 588 588 588 588 588
3 18 432 432 432 432 432 432 432 432 432 -144
4 16 1344 1344 1344 1344 1344 1344 1344 1344 1344 -128
5 24 2496 2496 2496 2496 2496 2496 2496 2496 -576 -192
6 20 2400 2400 2400 2400 2400 2400 2400 2400 -480 -160
7 14 1400 1400 1400 1400 1400 1400 1400 -840 -336 -112
8 17 1904 1904 1904 1904 1904 1904 1904 -1020 -408 -136
9 15 1800 1800 1800 1800 1800 1800 1800 -900 -360 -120
10 4 496 496 496 496 496 496 -528 -240 -96 -32
11 7 868 868 868 868 868 868 -924 -420 -168 -56
12 10 1200 1200 1200 1200 1200 1200 -1320 -600 -240 -80
13 7 784 784 784 784 784 -1680 -924 -420 -168 -56
14 8 800 800 800 800 800 -1920 -1056 -480 -192 -64
15 5 580 580 580 580 -1660 -1200 -660 -300 -120 -40
16 3 372 372 372 372 -996 -720 -396 -180 -72 -24
17 7 868 868 868 -3164 -2324 -1680 -924 -420 -168 -56
18 4 464 464 464 -1808 -1328 -960 -528 -240 -96 -32
19 4 400 400 400 -1808 -1328 -960 -528 -240 -96 -32
21 3 312 312 -2076 -1356 -996 -720 -396 -180 -72 -24
22 1 120 120 -692 -452 -332 -240 -132 -60 -24 -8
23 2 240 240 -1384 -904 -664 -480 -264 -120 -48 -16
24 5 520 520 -3460 -2260 -1660 -1200 -660 -300 -120 -40
25 3 312 312 -2076 -1356 -996 -720 -396 -180 -72 -24
26 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
27 2 80 -3032 -1384 -904 -664 -480 -264 -120 -48 -16
29 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
34 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
39 1 -1940 -1516 -692 -452 -332 -240 -132 -60 -24 -8
46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
52 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
31 1 -1940 -1516 -692 -452 -332 -240 -132 -60 -24 -8
40 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
37 1 -1940 -1516 -692 -452 -332 -240 -132 -60 -24 -8
36 1 -1940 -1516 -692 -452 -332 -240 -132 -60 -24 -8
Eindtotaal 240
profit 13532 12116 5868 2156 2748 1520 2448 272 -1180 -524
risk 1940 1516 692 388 332 240 132 60 24 8
factor 7.0 8.0 8.5 5.6 8.3 6.3 18.5 4.5 -49.2 -65.5
33770 spins 140 average length of a session
spin/hr 35
time in hrs 4.
theory versus actual with a four number bet for this system:
Playing 9 spins with 4 numbers:
probability:
64.29% versus actual of 67.08%
Playing 14 spins with 4 numbers:
probability:
79.85% versus actual of 82.08%
Playing 17 spins with 4 numbers:
probability:
85.70% versus actual of 88.33%
Playing 19 spins with 4 numbers:
probability:
88.63% versus actual of 91.67%
Playing 21 spins with 4 numbers:
probability:
90.95% versus actual of 92.92%
Playing 25 spins with 4 numbers:
probability:
94.27% versus actual of 97.50%
Playing 27 spins with 4 numbers:
probability:
95.45% versus actual of 98.33%
I want to explain in more detail this system:
I wait for the last 2 cold numbers:
in this session, I sorted the numbers.
sp num
1 0
2 0
3 1
4 1
5 1
6 1
7 2
8 2
9 2
10 2
11 3
12 3
13 4
14 4
15 4
16 5
17 5
18 6
19 7
20 7
21 7
22 7
23 9
24 9
25 10
26 10
27 10
28 10
29 10
30 11
31 11
32 11
33 12
34 12
35 12
36 12
37 13
38 13
39 13
40 13
41 13
42 13
43 14
44 16
45 16
46 16
47 16
48 17
49 17
50 17
51 17
52 17
53 17
54 17
55 18
56 18
57 18
58 18
59 19
60 19
61 19
62 20
63 20
64 20
65 20
66 21
67 21
68 21
69 22
70 22
71 22
72 22
73 22
74 23
75 23
76 23
77 24
78 24
79 24
80 24
81 25
82 25
83 25
84 26
85 26
86 27
87 27
88 27
89 27
90 27
91 28
92 28
93 28
94 29
95 30
96 30
97 30
98 31
99 31
100 31
101 31
102 32
103 32
104 32
105 33
106 34
107 34
108 34
109 34
110 35
111 35
112 35
113 35
114 36
115 36
116 36
117 36
118 36
8 and 15 are cold..
I have a pre' defined conversion table from wheel to table-sheet... like this:
wheel table
0 1
32 2
15 3
19 4
4 5
21 6
2 7
25 8
17 9
34 10
6 11
27 12
13 13
36 14
11 15
30 16
8 17
23 18
10 19
5 20
24 21
16 22
33 23
1 24
20 25
14 26
31 27
9 28
22 29
18 30
29 31
7 32
28 33
12 34
35 35
3 36
26 0
8 from the wheel = 17 from the table
15 from the wheel = 3 from the table
so Next spin I play 3-8-15-17 = a 4 number bet
spins after 118
119 33
120 13
121 26
122 32
123 7
124 20
125 9
126 18
127 22
128 11
129 13
130 3
with spin number 130 it's bingo a three.
so 130-118 = 12
Nice very nice..
Another session:
sorted:
1 0
2 0
3 1
4 1
5 2
6 2
7 2
8 2
9 2
10 3
11 4
12 5
13 5
14 5
15 5
16 6
17 7
18 7
19 8
20 9
21 10
22 10
23 11
24 11
25 12
26 12
27 12
28 13
29 13
30 14
31 15
32 15
33 15
34 16
35 17
36 17
37 17
38 18
39 19
40 20
41 21
42 21
43 21
44 22
45 22
46 22
47 23
48 23
49 24
50 24
51 24
52 26
53 27
54 27
55 27
56 29
57 30
58 31
59 31
60 31
61 32
62 33
63 34
64 35
65 36
25+28 are cold...
translate to pre'-defined table sheet numbers:
25+8
28+33
= A 4 NUMBER BET
PLAYING
66 3
67 9
68 24
69 8
bingo on the 69th spin
already with 4th spin playing it's a bingo..
Another session sorted:
1 0
2 0
3 0
4 0
5 0
6 0
7 1
8 1
9 1
10 1
11 1
12 1
13 1
14 1
15 2
16 2
17 2
18 2
19 3
20 3
21 3
22 3
23 5
24 5
25 5
26 5
27 5
28 6
29 6
30 6
31 6
32 7
33 7
34 8
35 8
36 8
37 9
38 9
39 9
40 10
41 10
42 10
43 11
44 11
45 11
46 11
47 11
48 12
49 12
50 12
51 12
52 12
53 12
54 13
55 13
56 13
57 13
58 13
59 14
60 14
61 14
62 14
63 15
64 15
65 15
66 15
67 15
68 16
69 16
70 16
71 16
72 17
73 17
74 18
75 18
76 19
77 19
78 19
79 19
80 20
81 20
82 20
83 20
84 21
85 21
86 21
87 22
88 22
89 22
90 22
91 22
92 22
93 23
94 24
95 24
96 25
97 25
98 26
99 26
100 26
101 26
102 26
103 26
104 26
105 26
106 26
107 27
108 27
109 27
110 27
111 27
112 27
113 28
114 28
115 28
116 28
117 29
118 29
119 29
120 29
121 31
122 31
123 32
124 32
125 32
126 33
127 33
128 34
129 34
130 34
131 34
132 35
133 35
134 35
135 36
136 36
137 36
138 36
4+30 are cold = converted also 5+16
so playing 4+5+16+30 = a 4 number bet
139 20
140 24
141 36
142 30
bingo on the 4th
Another session sorted:
1 0
2 1
3 1
4 1
5 2
6 3
7 3
8 4
9 4
10 4
11 4
12 4
13 5
14 5
15 5
16 6
17 6
18 6
19 7
20 7
21 7
22 7
23 7
24 8
25 8
26 8
27 8
28 9
29 9
30 9
31 10
32 10
33 11
34 11
35 12
36 12
37 12
38 12
39 12
40 13
41 13
42 13
43 13
44 15
45 15
46 15
47 15
48 16
49 17
50 17
51 19
52 19
53 19
54 20
55 20
56 20
57 20
58 20
59 21
60 21
61 22
62 23
63 24
64 25
65 26
66 26
67 26
68 27
69 27
70 27
71 28
72 29
73 29
74 29
75 30
76 30
77 30
78 31
79 32
80 32
81 33
82 33
83 34
84 34
85 34
86 34
87 34
88 35
89 35
90 35
91 36
92 36
93 36
14+18 are cold added from the table-sheet : 26+30
makes a 4 bet of 14+18+26+30
94 16
95 24
96 22
97 0
98 24
99 20
100 2
101 1
102 25
103 23
104 26
bingo 26 at the 11th spin..
Another session sorted:
1 0
2 0
3 1
4 1
5 1
6 2
7 3
8 3
9 3
10 3
11 4
12 5
13 5
14 6
15 6
16 6
17 6
18 6
19 7
20 7
21 7
22 8
23 9
24 10
25 11
26 12
27 12
28 13
29 13
30 13
31 14
32 14
33 14
34 14
35 15
36 16
37 17
38 17
39 17
40 19
41 20
42 20
43 20
44 20
45 21
46 21
47 21
48 22
49 23
50 23
51 24
52 26
53 26
54 26
55 26
56 27
57 27
58 28
59 28
60 28
61 28
62 28
63 29
64 29
65 29
66 29
67 29
68 30
69 30
70 30
71 31
72 31
73 32
74 32
75 32
76 32
77 32
78 32
79 32
80 33
81 33
82 33
83 34
84 35
85 35
86 35
87 36
88 36
89 36
90 36
cold ones 18+25 // added from the list 30+8
makes a 4 bet of 8+18+25+30
91 28
92 35
93 9
94 0
95 2
96 19
97 29
98 15
99 32
100 13
101 2
102 29
103 12
104 8
bingo on the 14th.. 8
255 sessions... highly positive....
theory of a 4 bet --27 spins
95.45%
actual
98.04%
theory of a 4 bet --- 9 spins
64.29%
actual
66.67%
you are a big spender:
4-bet play 255 sessions
spins/playing euro/nr bet money cum turnover profit spins euro profit
1 10 4 40 40 360 320 17 5440
2 20 4 80 120 720 600 22 13200
3 30 4 120 240 1080 840 20 16800
4 40 4 160 400 1440 1040 18 18720
5 70 4 280 680 2520 1840 25 46000
6 100 4 400 1080 3600 2520 21 52920
7 50 4 200 1280 1800 520 14 7280
8 200 4 800 2080 7200 5120 18 92160
9 300 4 1200 3280 10800 7520 15 112800
actual 67% win 170 365320
theory 64% loss 85 -278800
total sessions 255
profit 86520
risk 3280
factor 26.4
:)
still positive after 285 sessions.... only 6 lost....risk = 2168 euro profit = 14020 euro
a 7 factor... not bad..
in % = 97.89
theory= 95.94
Analyzed so far nearly 40.000 spins...
average length of a session= 118 spins..
35 spins/hr = 3.5 breakdown 2 hrs waiting---1hr playing..
breakdown of the 285 sessions till a loss
1... 4.3 keuro profit----67 sessions = 34 days... playing 2 sessions a day
2....6.9 keuro profit----94 sessions = 47 days....
3....1.0 keuro profit----33 sessions = 17 days
4....0.6 keuro profit----28 sessions =14 days
5...-0.6 keuro loss-----16 sessions = 8 days
6....1.8 keuro profit----41 sessions = 21 days
total
14.0 keuro profit with a risk of 2 keuro... in 141 days = 5 months.
Changed my money system.... lower risk..
Still positive after 359 sessions..
k-euro sessions days
1 3.9 67 22
2 6.1 93 31
3 1.0 33 11
4 0.5 28 9
5 -0.5 16 5
6 1.7 42 14
7 -1.6 3 1
8 4.7 77 26
profit 15.8 359
risk 1.9 = a factor of 8.5...
only 8 losses...
=351/359 = 97.8%
grabb's theory : 95.9%
It's enough: analyzed : 380 sessions... profit : 16704 euro and a risk of 1852 euro
Only 8 losses... 97.9%
Breakdown of grabb's theory approach and actuals:
spins theory actuals deviation
1 41 31 -10
2 37 34 -3
3 33 24 -9
4 29 26 -3
5 26 30 4
6 23 34 11
7 21 26 5
8 18 24 6
9 16 18 2
10 15 12 -3
11 13 12 -1
12 12 18 6
13 10 9 -1
14 9 13 4
15 8 6 -2
16 7 6 -1
17 7 10 3
18 6 7 1
19 5 7 2
20 5 1 -4
21 4 6 2
22 4 1 -3
23 3 3 0
24 3 6 3
25 3 4 1
26 2 0 -2
27 2 3 1
28 2 1 -1
I start to play now in real live casino...
Grabb predicted 15 losses.. actual only 8...
Hi Rheti,
How long you wait for the 2 cold numbers?
Why don t just take the two last(and most) cold numbers
from the online live casino screen(you know most casinos
shows the most hot and the most cold numbers).
Maybe someone need this economical progression for online casinos(see excel file)
Progression for 4 numbers(37 steeps, stop lose at 478).
How many steps have your progression, Rheti ?
cheers
Quote from: balint on December 06, 2010, 09:13:29 AM
Hi Rheti,
How long you wait for the 2 cold numbers?
Why don t just take the two last(and most) cold numbers
from the online live casino screen(you know most casinos
shows the most hot and the most cold numbers).
Maybe someone need this economical progression for online casinos(see excel file)
Progression for 4 numbers(37 steeps, stop lose at 478).
How many steps have your progression, Rheti ?
cheers
28
I tested so far roughly 50.000 spins and 380 sessions of 4 bets.. and 66 3 bets..
in the 4 bet 8 above 28.. = 97.9% -- Grabb's theory = 95.9%
highest was 40...
If I take into account grabb's probability analysis of a 4 number bet:
130 99.99996527933334
so far I never found it, as I say 40 was the highest..
so maybe testers can do it for 1000.000 spins and see for the results..
Wait for the last 2 cold numbers...
correlate them with a table sheet number, like this:
wheel table
0 1
32 2
15 3
19 4
4 5
21 6
2 7
25 8
17 9
34 10
6 11
27 12
13 13
36 14
11 15
30 16
8 17
23 18
10 19
5 20
24 21
16 22
33 23
1 24
20 25
14 26
31 27
9 28
22 29
18 30
29 31
7 32
28 33
12 34
35 35
3 36
26 0
and start playing...
Hi Rheti,
What is the lower risk M,M you are now using ?
Thanks for sharing this Rheti, it certainly has taken a lot of time and effort.
Keep up the good work,
Cheers Pedro
Thanks for sharing this system Rheti. I've played 62 sessions and only 1 loss as of yet. :good:
Hi Rheti,
I was reading this thread about 2-3-4 Bets, what i don't get is the added 2 numbers for a4 numbers bet. you mentioned predetermined numbers between wheel and table, appreciate if you could explain how to work this out.
"cold ones 18+25 // added from the list 30+8
makes a 4 bet of 8+18+25+30"
Look forward to your reply. Thank you.
David
Quote from: Rheti on December 07, 2010, 08:11:13 AM
correlate them with a table sheet number, like this:
wheel table
0 1
32 2
15 3
19 4
4 5
21 6
2 7
25 8
17 9
34 10
6 11
27 12
13 13
36 14
11 15
30 16
8 17
23 18
10 19
5 20
24 21
16 22
33 23
1 24
20 25
14 26
31 27
9 28
22 29
18 30
29 31
7 32
28 33
12 34
35 35
3 36
26 0
and start playing...
Esomamita, use the above table to correlate the 2 sleepers with their counterpart numbers.
Rheti, are you still playing this?
Sam
I must confess, I see nothing to this system that makes any kind of sense at all - but that's just me.
First, a RNG would not work so this can't be used online. What B&M casino, in Vegas, uses a European wheel? Where would you play this thing? I guess live TV spinning wheels if you can gamble at them from the US.
Second the old idea that a wheel has "memory" is the basis for this system - there is no math/science to back that up.
Basically there is nothing here - has anyone run a few hundred spins and found anything?
Nobody feed the troll and maybe he will go away.
Every forum needs a few pet trolls to feed.
It gets the neocortex all fired up for inspirational thinking.
Long live the trolls, feed them well my friends. ;D
Think of me as the opposition - if you can convince me you can convince anyone.
I'm the guy at a seminar when the lecturer asks "anyone have a question?" and the room falls silent - now it's my turn.
I still have 2 perfectly good questions not answered....