This is something I have today been giving a lot of time to, and would appreciate your own testing if you feel compelled to.
So far, the results are extremely promising. The good part is, that it requires
1. A small bankroll
2. Not a lot of sitting and waiting
3. Is very easy to understand
4. No massive progressions
It is a 2 dozen bet...and to start with we are betting after 2 dozens of a kind
So if Dozen 1 pops out twice, we bet for Dozens 2 + 3.
If we win, then we are +1 and we retrack for another repeating dozen.
If lost then, we wait for the repeating dozen to stop. Such as:
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2
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1 <Loss and wait for a break in the chain
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2 <A break, so now retrack
And wait for another repeating dozen, such as:
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3 <Now we have another bet
1 <Win +1
1 <This is a no bet, as the previous dozen was part of that win, and so I wait.
1 <I would bet here for a break, as it is now two unique repeating dozens
2 <Win +2
I hope that explains the basic and simple premise.
Now, all you need to start with is 52 units, as that is double a losing bankroll...
Progression is 1,3,9 STOP and leave
This is very important. If you hit a three loss, then regardless of where you are then you stop that session.
I have gone over some actuals from 100-150 spin sessions and here are the results:
+18
+9
+10
+12
+19
-7
+19
+15
+13
+17
-19
+28
+15
+8
+19
Impressive? The good thing is, unless you are extremely unlucky, even if you hit a 3 loss, then you won't lose all 26 units, because you may have already accumulated 5-10 units.
By the way, both losses above included the zero showing up, which was a pain, but still in healthy profit after a good many spins.
Hope this is clearly explained
Buffalo
i havent tried it yet but looks promising.
so when you get to the 3rd progression you stop as you will only lose 13, not bad. do you keep playing the session or do you quite after the 3rd progression lost.
what is your stop limit?
Quote from: darrynf on January 23, 2011, 09:39:34 PM
I havent tried it yet but looks promising.
so when you get to the 3rd progression you stop as you will only lose 13, not bad. do you keep playing the session or do you quite after the 3rd progression lost.
what is your stop limit?
Hi darryn,
If you lost your 3rd progression straight out which would be rare indeed then thats a 26 unit loss. Losses are usually around the 15-20 mark if you encounter one.
Wins are numerous though, and now after 20 sessions (approx 2000 spins) I am up 148 units. Not bad for betting 2 dozens.
As soon as you hit a 3 loss then stop the session and take the small loss. Winnings will make it back
BW
25 sessions played +184
Will keep testing and updating....could someone pass me on some of their actuals?
Thanks
Buffalo
i like your system as i think it dose well for a small bankroll.
i was just wondering, would it be better to keep the bets going after a loss cause you wouldnt see the same dozen hitting more then 5 times.
i know it can happen but i have only seen a dozen hit 5 times i think.
do youthink that might work
Quote from: darrynf on January 24, 2011, 03:24:27 PM
I like your system as I think it dose well for a small bankroll.
I was just wondering, would it be better to keep the bets going after a loss cause you wouldnt see the same dozen hitting more then 5 times.
I know it can happen but I have only seen a dozen hit 5 times I think.
do youthink that might work
Hi Darryn,
I have seen dozens go 5 and beyond on numerous occasions. I tend to opt for a more cautious approach, so if 3 dozens repeat then I would leave it alone, as it could be a little streak...
This is just how I play it...it's open to interpretations of course
Your input is much appreciated!
BW
thats true, just a thought.
how many spins do you think it would take for a dozen to hit 5 times, 1000 spins?
have you seen it happen early in the session. im just wondering because if you did lose you might of made alot more money so loss wouldnt matter.
just a thought.
The zero will be the big killer with this for sure . Obviously it's not playable betting on 0 the 1 or 3 of the progression . Do you play this real money
Quote from: Kingspin on January 24, 2011, 04:55:08 PM
The zero will be the big killer with this for sure . Obviously it's not playable betting on 0 the 1 or 3 of the progression . Do you play this real money
why dont you contrabute and say how it could be better, i think you could bet on the zero but you wont make any money on the first bet, so i would say to cover the zero on the 2nd ( second progression being 4 units with a profit of 1 unit) and 3rd progression ( 12 units will give you one unit back) as this will show a profit and more so if zero hits.
total is 23, its just a thought to help with the zero but you earn less, you can always go higher with the progression but i guess thats up to the individual.
if you are going to point out a flaw then at least try to help the solution by coming up something
Quote from: darrynf on January 24, 2011, 04:21:40 PM
thats true, just a thought.
how many spins do you think it would take for a dozen to hit 5 times, 1000 spins?
have you seen it happen early in the session. im just wondering because if you did lose you might of made alot more money so loss wouldnt matter.
just a thought.
5 repeats of a number are fairly rare but more common than every 1000 spins. Anyway, I stop betting after a dozen repeats 3 times and then retrack for a new dozen to repeat like this
1
1 bet now on dozens 2 and 3
1 loss, retrack
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1
1 bet again on 2 and 3
3 win
etc
cheers
Buffalo
The zero is always a spanner in the works,
But I have been testing (not played for real yet) for nearly 3000 spins (actuals from B & M casino) and the zero has inflicted a couple of 3 losses, but hasn't affected the win ratio...remember you aren't betting that often, there is a bit of tracking to do between each single loss, so the zero is just part of the play
I'm going to keep playing without covering it, but it's a thought
Thanks
BW
Thanks for posting this system b w . The most I have seen a single dozen hit consecutively is 11 times on a mechanical wheel , I so the third dozen hit 18 times consecutively on rng. I will try your method out some time soon.
I think I would be having a 0 / 2 split included on the 9 in the progression on real money. That 0 ALWAYS hits when you least expect it.
I am not playing roulette at the moment due to a few big (to me) losses.
I went over drawn by 35 pence and my bank charged me £80 for the privelage ;D
All I n all a bad few losses.
Mastercard charge £3 for any deposit under £100 which sucks big time , i over draw by a few pence and get hammered £80 which i can't believe is honest by the bank.
Sorry to hear that Kingspin
You'll be back!
Mate it doesn't matter if a dozen repeats 30 times with this method...the only way you get a 3 loss is if a sequence like this happens:
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1
1 1st loss
2
3
3
3 2nd loss
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2
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1
1 3rd loss
So you see, it's 3 lots of seperate betting sequences.
Remember, don't be afraid to just quit if you incur a 3 loss
BW
I gave this system a try tonight for 1 and a half hours at 1 spin about every 30 -40 seconds real money real wheel.
Session 1 went well and finished at +11.7 (£11.70) I play 1 3 10 on the progression with £ 1chips and 10p/20p/30p on zero depending where I am on the progression. Progression only went to last leg once.
I will give it another try later and give the results of the next session.
Session 2 , another good session over 100 spins and finished up + 11.7 + another £11.70 again amazing coincidence!.
i was playing this and i had 3 loses in a row play money ofcourse :(
Quote from: Post on January 25, 2011, 08:13:17 AM
I was playing this and I had 3 loses in a row play money ofcourse :(
Dont be disheartened Post....3 losses will happen
In fact they are a part of the system, and do not try and turn it around, just stop and come back later, building br up with wins, which will come
My testing show good profits despite the 3 losses.
BW
Is there any way this could be tested mechanically to see how it does over a google of spins?
I wish I was more technically proficiant col,
Also there seems to be a mixture of opinions about the progression and whether or not to cover the zero, so we would have to do a few test runs.
If anybody could help then it would be greatly apreciated
BW
i was just thinking BW,
if the only way of losing is getting a tripple win on the dozen then would it be worth betting 1 unit on that dozen to catch win streak.
if you lose its only 1 unit, what do you think?
and if its a win you keep going to you lose, as you will make profit unless you lose the first spin. if you lose then you just play as you do, in that way you were get money if you hit tripple dozens on the progression.
i guess you can still lose but maybe its a thought
I think I get what you mean mate.
So if we get a repeatng dozen, then we bet on the other 2, and also a smaller unit on the one that's repeating...to soften the blow?
BW
I am going to slowly start going through 6000 numbers a member of another forum has given me and posting up the results...stopping at a 3 loss and stopping at +15
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Session 3 - +15
This is why I'm testing the system....because people can be put off if they hit a 3 loss early on (which is very possible) and question if it wins at all...at the moment holding well with esoito's numbers
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Total so far = +60
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say lose your first bet right, then put one unit on the dozen that you loss to, if it dose catch you will win back your loss moeny and keep playing the dozen till it losses.
if it wins second time you will make 3 units and keep going till you lose as you will always make money if the dozen hit twice.
if you lose the first bet then you stop and carry on with the normal system, its just away of catching any repeaters and it wont be much of a hit to the bankroll.
i would proberly start my bet at 3 units and one unit on zero, so if i lose i only lose 4 units but if zero hits then you win big and if the dozen hits then you will be up 2 units.
do you think this would work?
How would it do if these numbers came out (i just made them up randomly)
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Quote from: col1879 on January 25, 2011, 04:35:09 PM
How would it do if these numbers came out (I just made them up randomly)
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Quote from: darrynf on January 25, 2011, 04:29:53 PM
say lose your first bet right, then put one unit on the dozen that you loss to, if it dose catch you will win back your loss moeny and keep playing the dozen till it losses.
if it wins second time you will make 3 units and keep going till you lose as you will always make money if the dozen hit twice.
if you lose the first bet then you stop and carry on with the normal system, its just away of catching any repeaters and it wont be much of a hit to the bankroll.
I would proberly start my bet at 3 units and one unit on zero, so if I lose I only lose 4 units but if zero hits then you win big and if the dozen hits then you will be up 2 units.
do you think this would work?
Hi Darryn
Any chance of showing this with a short amount of numbers just to illustrate it...i always find it easier that way.
Sounds interesting though
Buffalo
that's really freaky! I must be the unluckiest guy ever, i just knew that was going to happen lol what were the chances? lol ok i'll try again, totally random, it better be a positive this time lol
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Ok here goes col...cheers for the numbers!
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That's better, were they numbers you made up as well?
thanks
BW
First 3 loss here...to be expected, part of the game! -19
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Session 6 - +15 Back on track!
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yeah, I just made them up, plucked them out of my head lol
Some more for you
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What do you say to playing this system using the columns too bw. I gave it a try and it works pretty good , running two progressions independently or maybe together. I played the dozens with £1 chips and was playing the columns with 50p chips. Less boredom due to more betting chances. :)
16 This is a random set of spins from la roulette would you like to work this profit run out mate.
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Cheers for the numbers fellas, i'm off to bed now, will crunch them tomorrow!
PS thats a bloody good idea Kingspin, would be interesting to see how the columns fare
BW
Thanks for these col, here goes again
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Standard session there with no troubles. Thanks again mate... hope people are starting to see the potential here, and with introducing the columns as well........
buffalowizard,
What progression should be applied if we loss the first bet?
Regards,
John
Quote from: jrhelp007 on January 26, 2011, 04:00:28 PM
buffalowizard,
What progression should be applied if we loss the first bet?
Regards,
John
Hi John....I am currently using a 1,3,9 stop approach.
So if a bet is lost then that is that.
I would then have a break and re-enter with the 1,3,9
So far this is working, and I guess time will tell
BW
Session 10 +15
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Thank you for your prompt reply as well as sharing your system.
Question:
You wrote" If lost then we wait for the repeating dozen to stop. Such as:
3
2
1
1
1 <Loss and wait for a break in the chain
1
2 <A break, so now retrack
=========================
Now we suppose to wait for another repeating dozen.
Question:
What happen if another 2 shows up do I bet dozen1 & 3? or,
the Retrack doesn't count and I need to get additional dozens of a kind?
Regards,
John
Quote from: jrhelp007 on January 26, 2011, 05:45:32 PM
Thank you for your prompt reply as well as sharing your system.
Question:
You wrote" If lost then we wait for the repeating dozen to stop. Such as:
3
2
1
1
1 <Loss and wait for a break in the chain
1
2 <A break, so now retrack
=========================
Now we suppose to wait for another repeating dozen.
Question:
What happen if another 2 shows up do I bet dozen1 & 3? or,
the Retrack doesn't count and I need to get additional dozens of a kind?
Regards,
John
Good question J,
Yes indeed, if another 2 dozen appears, you bet on 1 + 3.
Hope this helps
BW
you still testing BW ?
good system man, i wouldnt of found my one with out this one!
Hi kingspin,
Seems like a session from hell mate. A quick glance, maybe 3/4 losses there? I like to think I would stick to my method and stop after the first one....but definately the second one!
Cheers
BW
Session 11 +15
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Hi buffalowizard,
Not sure if you noticed but as we write and track the dozens and get the signal to bet, I noticed that a pattern started to develop.
example:
2
1
1
---> bet 2 & 3
1 loss
and as we continue to track the dozens it appeared again and again not just for the 1 dozen but for the other as well.
3
2
3
1
1
---> bet 2 & 3
1 Loss
I knew based on the pattern that most likely it will happen, meaning I may take a loss. But the key is I did not deviated from your system. The only thing that saved me was the progression I used of 1, 3, 9.
Thanks for your contribution and help.
John
Thought I would work through Kingspins horror session for the dozens...I'm thinking that it's quite a rare event, up till what I've seen so far...and there would have been several exit points depending how cautious you are playing.
It is interesting though and vital to never swerve sessions like this and be true to your system and show the good with the bad...taken as it is, not covering zeroes etc...its a -64 unit loss
Certainly not the end of the world...considering the amounts I'm making with many other tests.
Thanks Kingspin for the numbers though...as long as you don't see many others like it!
BW
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Hi jr,
Do you mean you can see a pattern when there are repeats of the 1st dozen? I'm not too sure i follow.
Have you been testing this much and if so, how are your results faring?
Cheers
Buffalo
not only dozen 1 but dozen 2 & 3 as well.
What i meant is the following:
let say I loss a bet. Continue to wait waiting for the dozen to change. then Trk again so during my writing down the dozen i gave you an example on what I saw:
2
3
1
1---> I bet dozen 2 & 3
1 ----> loss
1
2---->trk
3
2
1
3
2
2 ----> bet dozen 1 & 3
2 ----> loss
2
1
3
1
1----> here I ready to bet dozen 2 & 3 . Look on top you see that dozen 1 came. But according to the system i need
to bet 2 & 3.
1---> I loss my bets. Although it doesn't guaranteed that always the pattern and its bet will work.
The question is did you test the following:
1. Just stick to your original system and use progression. Or,
2. Attempt to bet a similar condition intercepted in the patterns?
We can test item 2 and see its results.
What is your taken on the above?
Regards,
John
I understand now John
It isn't something i have seen, but because i have been focused solely on the rigid method...
So on the 3rd step of the bet, you could instead bet for a repeat again...
I do like this because it would mean a smaller progression such as 1,3,4 instead of 1,3,9
During more testing I will look back and check this phenomenon. If this bet lost, would you say to retrack as normal and bet on the 2 dozens?
thanks
BW
Lets try to test the pattern and its bet results. It is developing as we write down the the dozens.
We can test the concept and bet on the patterns and its previous results. Mening what dozen came out not the one we bet!
If this concept doesn't work, I'll go back and resume your system and its progression.
Why am I talking about pattern because this is what the majority of the players are doing and myself too in the Baccarat game.
We are Looking for the pattern/trend developing. Same concept applies to Roulette except that the odds are different.
I'll continue to test and report the results of testing the pattern within your system vs. your original approach.
Regards,
John
Thats a good idea John, I'm all for finding patterns...
thanks for being on board and testing.
BW
Session 12 -21
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Session 13 +15
A nice quick winning session here to counteract the last sessions loss.
It's interesting because with my own actuals I was up around 148 units in 20 sessions, and this is following a very similar pattern...hope this keeps up.
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Hey buffalow wizard , I tried a bet out called the paradise bet , I won a few hundred with it, you can see the bet on the bet selection page. Try it and see what you think of it. It did good on tests on single 0 . Big balls needed though on the progression now and again.
I gave you 4 stars for your system as I have won money with it.
In real play I have won every session so far with your system , the only way to lose is to sit playing all day ;D
Buppalo,
in one of your session you claimed you loss -21 units. What progression was used? I marked the dozen next to you numbers as follow:
part of your display numbers: I used progression of 1, 3, 9. how did you get -21?
20 +4
8
8
21 +5
32 3
34 3
31 3---> loss +4
6
21
12
6 1
1 1
9 1---> +1
16 2
13 2
22 2---> -8 you wrote: for the last number: 3 loss -21
John
keep up the good work buffalowizard :thumbsup:
Hi Buffalo,
Thanks for this. I really hope it continues to do well.
Certainly it re-ignited my interest in DOZ bets.
Best wishes,
Atlantis.
Buffalo,
in one of your session you claimed you loss -21 units. What progression was used? I marked the dozen next to you numbers as follow:
part of your display numbers: I used progression of 1, 3, 9. how did you get -21?
20 +4
8
8
21 +5
32 3
34 3
31 3---> loss +4
6
21
12
6 1
1 1
9 1---> +1
16 2
13 2
22 2---> -8
=========================
You came out with 3 loss -21 what progression did you use. I applied the 1,3,9.
John
Hi John
Yes I use the 1,3,9 progression but it's on 2 dozens so 1st bet lost you are -2
2nd bet lost you lose 6
3rd bet you lose 18
Add all that together = 26
Hope this helps
BW
Thanks guys for the encouragment.
I hit a cluster of lost sessions of around -20 and things are around level...in time I will carry on to see if it pushes back into the plus.
Overall this system is solid and a good tool as it is easy to track and stress free due to the low bankroll required.
I will come back to it because have a feeling that the winning sessions are around the corner...
As well as this, there are myriad ways of playing each method and so it is with this, someone may find a better way or better progression to use, as this isn't really my forte.
I came up with a new EC system today, so my efforts are concerned with that which I will report back to soon, but it looks promising. Keep you posted!
BW
this is a good system.
hi buff,
my system hit a cluster of losses as well, I really dont think either systems will hold up over the long run.
my opinion is it can lose just as many times as it can win.
only my opinion, i tested mine out over a long run on a 12 step progression, and it eventualy loss though it got up high.
I like this strategy, I play :lol:something similar, only in reverse. Rather than waiting for a dozen to repeat, I bet on the unhit dozens, until there is a repeat. Then stop wait for an extra spin to avoid the risk of it repeating again, then continue the run. I use the same progression as you. I like the idea of covering the zero as that can be a killer. Personally I like using the colums over the dozens, not sure there is any advantage to this though.
Darrynf?Kagatori : I have programmed this system in Excel.I use a random dozen row of 4 dozens.Betting schedule is 2-6-18-54. Play always on a French roulette.If you bet on the dozens you can use sometimes the HIGH or LOW.In this way dozens are better than columns.
In my strategy I wait always the first spin is a lost. Use SSB the waiting time is very short.
It is now possible to give messages as I play on MIKOGO.
Quote from: schoenpoetser link=topic=17715. msg135233#msg135233 date=1303896060
Darrynf?Kagatori : I have programmed this system in Excel. I use a random dozen row of 4 dozens. Betting schedule is 2-6-18-54. Play always on a French roulette. If you bet on the dozens you can use sometimes the HIGH or LOW. In this way dozens are better than columns.
In my strategy I wait always the first spin is a lost. Use SSB the waiting time is very short.
It is now possible to give messages as I play on MIKOGO.
Cheers for that ill give it a go.
Hi, i'm absolutely new on this forum but i have played roulette some time and have tryed several systems, and this one looks Very good for me, except i wait for 3 times to fall in a dozen.
Well, to the point. I have made already a good money but i'm too busy to do it myself, so is there any bot for playtech that can do all the work?! RBP & RS don't do this stuff.