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Unfortunately I am on the ps3 and cannot view any attachments.
I take it the triggers do not always have to be high/low but could be red/black or odd/even?
Okay I have a couple of systems that I like. I'll pick one and start looking for the triggers you mentioned and see how it goes.
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Test 1: +4
My ps3 keeps crashing it's not good for testing online roulette. Why do I not have a PC!
Maybe you can include that as systim runing after x spins you set trigger to 50% on reverse bets based on prvius H/L. Will that help to get smaller downtrend?
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I know coding in pascal and delphi as it is almost the same. I am very suprised with your post because last few days I am working on the same princip with graphs and now you maybe assure me that I am on the good way. But I dont undestand one thing. You are selling your system for 500 000 $ and now you want to develop new system based on graphs of your original system. Are you still selling your system or you gave it up and know working with each other ?
Quote from: N0vocane on January 31, 2011, 02:51:46 PM
I have a working system already which I'm not posting. But I'm giving the principals behind the system here to see if we all could come up with something better. Yeah obviously the system is still for sale, but if we could somehow find a way to improve this system it would be beneficial to everyone.
Okey.Thank you for your answer. Hope we will get some good results.
****Typical scammer jargon. Only jerks would ever buy a system. Graphs mean nothing, zero , nada,**************
To continue.... blank, diddlysquat, gooseegg, insignificancy, naught, nil, nobody, nonentity, nought, nullity, squat, zilch, zip, zippo, zot!!!!
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Ignoring the last few comments as it seems it's just a lot of testosterone going back and forth...
Interesting ideas N0vocanes, I've dappled with a similar approach in the past, coded a test module for it and learnt a lot. Not trying to bash your idea but rather give you something more to think about. There are potential dangers to your approach that you don't seem to have seen.
Refer to the image attached.
What do you mean by "resistance" at bottom left of the image? Cheers.
-Tiago
Nathan, that kind of discusion is not polite. You can not acuse novocaine of being scammer juc cos he wants to sell his work.Period.
I toght very high of you, but now this..read the rules!!
Your chart looks like a stock chart - buying breakout highs and selling breakout lows has no validity at all - zip.
Maybe I'm missing something but how do you short a Roulette wheel when a system is losing?
Quote from: N0vocane on January 31, 2011, 10:39:09 PM
If you want you can give me a couple graphs of 100-3000 spins of a system of your choice so you know I'm not producing graphs that agree with my system and I'll mark everything for you. Then you can examine it and see if there are any inconsistencies.
I've attached two images, they're both the same graph. One is purposely wide so it's easier to see exactly how the bankroll was moving without the graph lines getting to clumped up.
And how would you graph this in a casino?
I can honestly say I am totally confused and see nothing to this technique.
This is very similar to a stock chart where there is a technique of buying breakouts to the upside and selling/shorting breakouts to the downside all based on past isolated highs and lows.
That system doesn't work in stocks and I don't see why it will work here.
Whipsaws will just kill you - you get a signal to buy and when the isolated high is exceeded you go long with some kind of trailing stop - that stop is hit 50% of the time.
Stocks, for the most part, are 80% correlated to the DJIA and using breakouts is not a more profitable way to trade than to just buy and hold.
In your example the "buy and hold" ending total of 1020 caused your overall total to correlate to it.
Repeat this experiment 100 times and 50% will be a winner and 50% will be a loser.
Sorry....
Quote from: N0vocane on February 01, 2011, 12:47:16 PM
I've repeated it over 3 million spins with a profit.
Sorry, as soon as you determine which isolated highs/lows to use you ignore many more - other folks will pick some of those.
This "system" is 100% correlated to just a simple flat-bet bet over the long run.
Again, I suggest that you demonstrate it in real time and you will find me to be correct - it is no better that just flat-betting each spin; over a long run you will be eaten alive by the "0".
Quote from: N0vocane on February 01, 2011, 01:13:56 PM
Maui all my bets placed in the numbers you gave me were laid out in my example. Every time the system made a considerable jump above the previous high or low I placed a bet. I placed a bet on every one. You already made up your mind that this doesn't work even though I've shown you that it profits after 3 million spins. I guess 3 million spins isn't the long run. Believe what you will
Sadly the only way you can get a
a considerable jump above the previous high or low is 100% subjective and looking ahead helps - that's the problem with breakouts.
Using your example you could substitute a coin of H and T instead of 0 - 36 and you will win - which is impossible.
You will find this out when you demonstrate your system in real time - your decisions as to "considerable" will vary second to second instead of being able to look forward and then decide what "considerable" is.
I wish you luck.....
Quote from: MauiSunset on February 01, 2011, 01:18:14 PM
Sadly the only way you can get a a considerable jump above the previous high or low is 100% subjective and looking ahead helps - that's the problem with breakouts.
Using your example you could substitute a coin of H and T instead of 0 - 36 and you will win - which is impossible.
You will find this out when you demonstrate your system in real time - your decisions as to "considerable" will vary second to second instead of being able to look forward and then decide what "considerable" is.
I wish you luck.....
Surely this is the point... Why did you not begin betting before Spin 36? There were peaks and troughs before this on the graph - yet you never did bet, N0vocane. How to know exactly when to play or reverse-play?
It DOES appear subjective to the individual player.
A.
Hi Nova,
I dont think people are going to take you seriously because you have given nothing but graphs, say you are telling the truth and you do have a system wins profit at the of 1 million spins.
Its not enough to keep people interested, how about showing 100 spin graphs and show they make a profit every time and i bet you will have people interested in what you are saying. Also include a bankroll that everyone can afford, not a 50,000 br as hardly anyone would have this.
I'm not trying to get at you but am trying to help you, you say you have many systems going at once which is good as i believe this is better as well. just remember an rng could be rigg and if your system works in a real casino then it would work in an rng casino but not for long.
It maybe more work showing graphs at a smaller rate but i think people will listen to you if they feel what you are saying can be acheieved by them. you will never win 200,000+ in a real casino as they would never let you get this high.
N0vocane,
Your charts, basically illustrate and "FITS" onto the technical analysis charts of trading the Stocks and/or the FOREX (Foreign Exchange) markets. It deals with trends, range bounds, movement and Support & Resistance.
Can the concept be applied to the Roulette?
In terms of playing at land Casinos. No dealer or a floor person will allow HE/SHE to sit at the table and not taken action/bets. Just collect numbers until you approach the lowest or highest point requires x amount of spins.
The chart don't nothing to me. Once you reveal so called your Roulette system we can conduct tests and see the results. :blush2:
Take care,
John :blush2: