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Title: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: darrynf on February 03, 2011, 09:17:39 PM
I would like to start of this topic as the original got banned and would like to keep talking about it as it sounded good.

I dont know whether phase2 was a scammer or not, to be honest i dont care.

waiting for the pattern to hit sounded good to me.

is anyone willing to carry this topic on.
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: darrynf on February 03, 2011, 09:39:00 PM
I was wondering if the repeat was to hit 2 out of 5 more times then it would be a winner. but how many times can you expect it to repeat the pattern.

i think it would hit just as much as it would not hit in the pattern.

did anyone get around to testing this method ?
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: col1879 on February 03, 2011, 10:56:25 PM
You are always betting 1 dozen, so using units of 1, for example, means any win is+2 compared to any loss is -1, but you have 1 in 3 chance of winning, it's not 50/50

Viewing 5 spins:

Win 5 / Lose 0 = +10
Win 4 / Lose 1 = +7
Win 3 / Lose 2 = +4
Win 2 / Lose 3 = +1
Win 1 / Lose 4 = -2
Win 0 / Lose 5 = -5
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: Steve on February 04, 2011, 12:29:31 AM
No problems with carrying on. It's a free forum. Just be aware the person who created it did so to scam people. He knows it doesnt work.
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: darrynf on February 04, 2011, 01:53:11 AM
I havent done any testing on this method but it sounds like it would hit 2 out of 5 more times then not.

if we were to bet on the pattern not to repeat then we would have to win 4 out of 5 (kind of like buffs two dozen bets).

either the pattern will repeat or it wont, or it will some, to keep it self balance over the long term.
if we presumed it would work would you use a progression to counter losses and what sort of progression.

If someone could get some real numbers then i could show how it might look.
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: opikos on February 04, 2011, 04:29:21 AM
Why the thread got banned???? I wake up this morning and its GONE, what was the SCAM about it?
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: darrynf on February 04, 2011, 05:02:08 AM

ask Steve
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: darrynf on February 04, 2011, 05:51:46 AM
Session
1   L
14   M
4   L
26   H
36   H,
1   L   WIN+2
1   L   LOSS
20   M   LOSS
30   H   WIN+2
0   ,   LOSS
11   L   WIN+2
3   L   WIN+2
25   H   LOSS
31   H   WIN +2
35   H,   NO BET
14   M   LOSS
10   L   WIN+2
24   M   LOSS
35   H   WIN +2
8   L,   LOSS
36   H   LOSS
36   H   LOSS
9   L   LOSS
22   M   LOSS
27   H,   LOSS
3   L   LOSS
31   H   WIN+2
13   M   LOSS
34   H   LOSS
9   L,   LOSS
30   H   LOSS
31   H   WIN+2
17   M   WIN+2
15   M   LOSS
23   M,   LOSS
26   H   WIN+2
17   M   LOSS
7   L   LOSS
28   H   LOSS
4   L,   LOSS
12   L   LOSS
2   L   LOSS
15   M   LOSS
10   L   LOSS
25   H,   LOSS
24   M   LOSS
26   H   LOSS
12   L   LOSS
9    L   WIN+2
36   H,   WIN+2
5   L   LOSS
24   M   LOSS
24   M   LOSS
12   L   WIN+2
20   M,   LOSS
10   L   WIN+2
1   L   LOSS
1    L   LOSS
13    M   LOSS
29   H,   LOSS
8   L   WIN+2
14   M   LOSS
24   M   LOSS
8   L   LOSS
20   M,   LOSS
15   M   LOSS
11   L   LOSS
31   H   LOSS
16   M   LOSS
6   L,   LOSS
10   L   LOSS
2   L   WIN+2
4   L   LOSS
1   L   LOSS
0   ,   LOSS
2   L   WIN+2
1   L   WIN+2
33   H   LOSS
6   L   WIN+2
35   H,   NO BET
8   L   WIN+2
8   L   WIN+2
7   L   LOSS
34   H   LOSS
17   M,   LOSS
21   M   LOSS
30   H   LOSS
25   H   LOSS
28   H   WIN+2
2   L,   LOSS
3   L   LOSS
35   H   WIN+2
36   H   WIN+2
25   H   WIN+2
26   H,   LOSS
12   L   LOSS
7   L   LOSS
11   L   LOSS
27   H   WIN+2
1   L,   LOSS
13   M   LOSS
12   L   WIN+2
0      LOSS
104 spins

28 WINS (56 UNITS)
68 LOSES (-12 UNITS)
12 LONGEST LOSES IN A ROW, NO PROGRESSION USED.

I dont know how the stakes would of affected it but going by this it did not do that well (with out some typ of progression used.
so out of 99 spins it has 28 wins with a strike rate of around 27%.

Im not sure if this is a good session or a bad session, any comments from anyone ?
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: atlantis on February 04, 2011, 06:07:35 AM
Quote from: darrynf on February 03, 2011, 09:17:39 PM
I would like to start of this topic as the original got banned and would like to keep talking about it as it sounded good.

I dont know whether phase2 was a scammer or not, to be honest I dont care.

waiting for the pattern to hit sounded good to me.

is anyone willing to carry this topic on.

Can someone tell me why the MATRIX--50 thread has been removed?
As far as I know there was no reason to delete it. Anyhow I, for one,would like it reinstated.


A.

Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: buffalowizard on February 04, 2011, 06:09:55 AM
Hi darryn,

27% would be just under one 3rd which is almost exactly as expected for betting 1:2 dozens.

I have looked at something similar which I am currently testing based on this.

Basically follow 3 dozens

HLL

Then bet as before for a repeat

You often get a repeat, if not then follow the last

So:

H L L

L M H   Loss at 1 unit. Go for repeat of this pattern, still at 1 unit for recovery.

H H L   Loss at 1 unit. Now raise to 2 units

Raise to 4 units if lost this one

Like i said i will be testing but looking good with early checks

BW
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: buffalowizard on February 04, 2011, 06:15:38 AM
Atlantic

Steve deleted it all as PHASE2 was the scammer charles H

Buffalo
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: atlantis on February 04, 2011, 06:27:26 AM
Quote from: buffalowizard on February 04, 2011, 06:15:38 AM
Atlantis

Steve deleted it all as PHASE2 was the scammer charles H

Buffalo

Well I do not believe that - but possibly it was fender1000. Anyhow the topic is resurrected at the other forum and I hope PHASE2 will join in there and continue.

Thanks,
A.
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: darrynf on February 04, 2011, 06:29:42 AM
atlantis, did you understand the staking of this method ?
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: darrynf on February 04, 2011, 06:30:34 AM
what forum ?
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: buffalowizard on February 04, 2011, 06:33:37 AM
rouletteforum.cc mate
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: darrynf on February 04, 2011, 06:40:21 AM
I was looking at the pattern and you are ment to get a cluster of wins (so i was told) but that did not happen, i dont think this method would work now.

you can brake it up all you want but the strike rate wont get much higher then 33%.
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: buffalowizard on February 04, 2011, 06:47:26 AM
nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/general-discussion/matrix-50-the-one/msg33504/?boardseen#new (nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/general-discussion/matrix-50-the-one/msg33504/?boardseen#new)

That takes you straight to the relevant thread

BW
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: col1879 on February 05, 2011, 04:35:22 PM
anyone testing the matrix? has it been tweaked into the matrix reloaded yet? lol
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: darrynf on February 05, 2011, 05:02:12 PM
read the thread and you will find it, personaly im not sure of what to think about this strategy.

roulette is to random to have set rules
Title: Re: matrix system (carry the topic on)
Post by: John Gold on February 05, 2011, 05:12:26 PM
If anybody is ever going to find a way to beat this game using a method/strategy, I really do think it will be by betting the dozens/columns in one form or another. The 2/1 payout is very attractive.