is testing a system any good. the results you get at the casino may be a lot different then the test. at roulette you can never gurantee that you will win. i won at my last ten visits. but tomorrow may be a different story. my last visit it took five hours of play before i won. down three hundred. finished winning a 125. dollars. have to try never have a losing visit. what are the odds of nthat. good gambling.
You can never guarantee a win at roulette, it's part of the problem!
I, theoretically, could cover every number on the board with $1 except numbers 2, 8 and 11 and win 100 times in a row before losing. Or I could lose on my very first spin!
Quote from: pins on February 04, 2011, 08:22:10 AM
is testing a system any good. the results you get at the casino may be a lot different then the test. at roulette you can never gurantee that you will win. I won at my last ten visits. but tomorrow may be a different story. my last visit it took five hours of play before I won. down three hundred. finished winning a 125. dollars. have to try never have a losing visit. what are the odds of nthat. good gambling.
If you can you test with a computer. In that way you can learn how different distributions effect the outcome. You end up with an understanding based on context. You learn if there are times when it kills you off and takes your bankroll. You learn what those conditions are. Here is another way to look at it. Should a system start working just because you just arrived at the casino and sat in on a new session? You don't know the conditions. The conditions that kill your system may currently be happening. If you test a system so that you can understand it then your education regarding playing Roulette becomes more experienced.
In my short time here I've seen folks just want to fool themselves and not face reality.
John Gold is the only exception - he has now demonstrated his techniques, in real time, right here at this forum a number of times now.
Everyone else has run away from live testing.
I consider myself a gold miner - I've got to shovel a lot of BS to find a nugget that might or might not help me be better at gambling.
Live testing is so easy that to not demonstrate your system is foolish on your part.
The live chat room in the top menu "CHAT" is a state of the art live chatroom. You can invite folks to view your demo or you can create a private room with a password and invite only a group of folks. You can go even further and create a private room and invite only those individuals you want to attend.
So if you want to take the next step create a private room and invite your spouse or friend to join you and demo it in front of someone in real time. You will discover a lot about your system and the ability of others to learn it.
Of course I'd love to see some of these systems and am prepared to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) if you wish.
So testing in real time is something you should do before you sell a system or use real money and discover you ain't got squat..........
Quote from: MauiSunset on February 04, 2011, 03:11:59 PM
In my short time here I've seen folks just want to fool themselves and not face reality.
John Gold is the only exception - he has now demonstrated his techniques, in real time, right here at this forum a number of times now.
I would be happy to demonstrate flat betting under two conditions. The chat is done right here live. That 100 spins are encrypted somehow and published here at the start. I need 20 spins just before the 100 placed in the clear. So it will take 120 total spins. I will attempt to reach my goal of 20 units won. After that is done the moderator of the session can post the encryption key so as to verify the sequence of spins. Now I don't care where you get the spins. They can be real spins from your own playing sessions. They can even be RNG, I don't care.
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 04, 2011, 03:31:13 PM
I would be happy to demonstrate flat betting under two conditions. The chat is done right here live. That 100 spins are encrypted somehow and published here at the start. I need 20 spins just before the 100 placed in the clear. So it will take 120 total spins. I will attempt to reach my goal of 20 units won. After that is done the moderator of the session can post the encryption key so as to verify the sequence of spins. Now I don't care where you get the spins. They can be real spins from your own playing sessions. They can even be RNG, I don't care.
Interesting....... :o :o
"flat betting"
"100 spin session"
"goal of 20 units won"
sounds like the mantra of a now defunked website ??? ??? ???
Careful Gizmo, if Stevie H thinks your CEH your ass will be kicked to the kerb quicker than you can say "I will close down roulette" ;)
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 04, 2011, 03:31:13 PM
I would be happy to demonstrate flat betting under two conditions. The chat is done right here live. That 100 spins are encrypted somehow and published here at the start. I need 20 spins just before the 100 placed in the clear. So it will take 120 total spins. I will attempt to reach my goal of 20 units won. After that is done the moderator of the session can post the encryption key so as to verify the sequence of spins. Now I don't care where you get the spins. They can be real spins from your own playing sessions. They can even be RNG, I don't care.
Sorry, didn't see this post from the other thread.
There is NO reason for encrypting a single thing - each of us brings up the same live Roulette wheel and that's all you need.
Now if you believe there are forces at work to fool us with the live Roulette wheel, like intercepting the live data stream and modifying it, then we have some really big problems......
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 04, 2011, 03:31:13 PM
I would be happy to demonstrate flat betting under two conditions. The chat is done right here live. That 100 spins are encrypted somehow and published here at the start. I need 20 spins just before the 100 placed in the clear. So it will take 120 total spins.
Well, the first problem has already been solved. Using the "chat" function here pretty much assures you that only registered members will be along for the show. The universally accepted Skype utility also works well for multiple users in a chat mode.
The second one is an odd request. I wouldn't think there would be a need to encrypt anything as the "test" could be done on any of the live wheels that almost everyone has access to online.
If the online option is too time consuming for people, then the previously mentioned secure 20 spins can be produced by an administrator and 20 each of the numbers can be distributed to 5 members, to be displayed, in sequence, at the appropriate time. As the administrator already has the full set of numbers, he becomes the cross check that the numbers coming out are the ones to be used!
Everyone is making this a bit harder than it needs to be.
Just settle in on which Live/RNG online roulette game you're going to play and get everyone to log on.
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