John Gold demonstrated his techniques live on this forum, you can too.
Here's how:
This is all easier if you have 2 monitors or 2 PCs - that I can't help you with.
Step 1 - get live TV Roulette working
Simply place your mouse over the following link and right click the mouse - you will see a menu. Click "Open link in new Browser" or "Open link in new tab" - the choice is yours:
nolinks://nolinks.smartlivecasino.com/welcome.html (nolinks://nolinks.smartlivecasino.com/welcome.html)
Now click the "Live Auto Roulette Wheel" and "Free Play"
You now have a live TV Roulette wheel that goes 24/7 and just wait for the next spin. You can actually bet, with play money, which I suggest you do
You can get the last 185 spins by:
1) Click "stats" tab in lower left window
2) Click "Last 185" tab and you will see the last 185 spins
Step 2 - Get Live chatroom running
Click the "Chat" tab at the top of this page
You are now live and running.
If you want to see what chats have taken place in the last few minutes type in:
/Back 200
That will give you the last 200 conversations in the last 24-hrs
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It's really easy, just notify folks when you wish to demonstrate your system and follow the instructions above.
Simple as pie....3.14159..................
Here's another live TV Roulette Table: nolinks://nolinks.challengejackpot.com/live_roulette (nolinks://nolinks.challengejackpot.com/live_roulette)
I highly suggest you practice before you demonstrate.
You can open new rooms in the Live Chatroom by:
1) Click the "Add" button at the top of the Live Chatroom - you will see a box displayed:
A) Enter the name of your room
B) Decide if you want the room Public or Private.
C) If you want a Private room you can enter a password if you want
Please be advised that you will instantly be placed in the Private Chatroom and if you leave the room is vaporized - gone. So don't leave the room.
You can invite folks into your Private Chatroom, password protected, by sending them the password and the name of the Private Room. When they click "Chat" tab above and then select the "Room" pull down they will be asked for a password and then can join.
So do this and practice in private and then invite folks to join you in real time.
Can't wait............
Great, now all I need is my internet connection back up to speed. This morning it is running the slowest yet so far. This posting window took a full minute to load.
Quote from: MauiSunset on February 05, 2011, 01:05:39 PM
A) Enter the name of your room
B) Decide if you want the room Public or Private.
C) If you want a Private room you can enter a password if you want
Thanks for that informative posting. I didn't realize you could make your own chat room "private" and with a password too!
You learn something every day!
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************ I didn't realize you could make your own chat room "private" and with a password too!********************
If you are only talking about roulette it is fine. But flirting and the like will not be tolerated! ;D
Hello again Maui :)
I am back with another challenge. I have spent the last several weeks fine tuning and playing my grind method at both online and B+M casinos. Luckily for me, I have managed to turn a small sized bankroll into a fairly decent one.
It's a good job as well because I suffered a horrendous january on the betting exchanges :D
My inside betting method was a flop when we tested it. I am 100% confident that my grind method will have you questioning your belief that bet selection is unimportant.
So if you are up for round 2, let's get the show on the road. I love a challenge and I would like the chance to redeem myself. This method is betting between 1 - 3 streets. There are a good few betting opportunities and not a lot of charting is required. I am winning 50 units on most sessions. I have a 100 unit bank on each session and it is all flat betting. It would be cool to do a demonstration at smartlivecasino. They are much faster than the challengejackpot.
Anytime is fine with me. I am going to be online all evening if you have some spare time. Most sessions last between 60 to 70 spins which should roughly take about 90 minutes.
cheers.
Quote from: John Gold on March 03, 2011, 01:31:43 PM
Hello again Maui :)
I am back with another challenge. I have spent the last several weeks fine tuning and playing my grind method at both online and B+M casinos. Luckily for me, I have managed to turn a small sized bankroll into a fairly decent one.
It's a good job as well because I suffered a horrendous january on the betting exchanges :D
My inside betting method was a flop when we tested it. I am 100% confident that my grind method will have you questioning your belief that bet selection is unimportant.
So if you are up for round 2, let's get the show on the road. I love a challenge and I would like the chance to redeem myself. This method is betting between 1 - 3 streets. There are a good few betting opportunities and not a lot of charting is required. I am winning 50 units on most sessions. I have a 100 unit bank on each session and it is all flat betting. It would be cool to do a demonstration at smartlivecasino. They are much faster than the challengejackpot.
Anytime is fine with me. I am going to be online all evening if you have some spare time. Most sessions last between 60 to 70 spins which should roughly take about 90 minutes.
cheers.
Hi John,
I'm in Maui right now and for the next week. Going whale watching today. I'm Zulu - 10 hours and most nights we are done for the day. That would be 7 PM - 10 PM Hawaiian time. I don't know how that lines up with your time.
I will be back in St. Louis March 14 and back to being available 24/7.
You will have to let me know if you want to do it this week or next or just wait until I'm back home March 14.
Thanks.....
Ok mate, enjoy your trip. The wheel is not going anywhere. I will look forward to doing a demonstration when you are back home.
Maui,
Your challenge is flawed because contestants can be exposed to drawdowns at any stage of the 100 spin session. Contestants therefore need to be allowed to stop short of 100 spins if they deem they have enough profit, or should have the option to extend the spin count if they are in the hole towards the end of 100 spins and need to grind it out.
I personally never start a roulette session unless I am prepared to lose the entire session bankroll, or can commit enough time to play through any drawdown.
Quote from: bombus on March 12, 2011, 12:46:12 AM
Maui,
Your challenge is flawed because contestants can be exposed to drawdowns at any stage of the 100 spin session. Contestants therefore need to be allowed to stop short of 100 spins if they deem they have enough profit, or should have the option to extend the spin count if they are in the hole towards the end of 100 spins and need to grind it out.
I personally never start a roulette session unless I am prepared to lose the entire session bankroll, or can commit enough time to play through any drawdown.
I understand what you say but I'm looking at Roulette systems that can withstand at least 100 spins.
Anyone can put down $50 on a couple of numbers and luck out and make $1 - I can't stop it there; it proves nothing.
So for my contest, and others are free to hold their own contests, I need to see $1 profit in 100 spins or 200 spins or 300 spins - that's my contest.
Quote from: MauiSunset on March 12, 2011, 12:51:21 AM
I understand what you say but I'm looking at Roulette systems that can withstand at least 100 spins.
Here is what I don't understand. Why does a system have to work when you walk up and start playing it. You could start out in a huge draw down. There can't be a system that works all the time. It's mathematically impossible.
Quote from: Gizmotron on March 12, 2011, 12:59:22 AM
Here is what I don't understand. Why does a system have to work when you walk up and start playing it. You could start out in a huge draw down. There can't be a system that works all the time. It's mathematically impossible.
That's my contest - 2 hours of play or 100 spins.
A system that beats Roulette should work - if not folks won't play it - I know I would not. Again, I can see one bad session and maybe 2 but 3 is just a sign the system doesn't work.
Like I said, anyone can walk by a Roulette table and throw chips on the table and watch a win come up - there is nothing there.
I know that in 100 spins I won't see Roulette being beat - I will be watching a money management system at work and it follows the laws of statistics which only strengthen the more numbers that are played.
I meant as the contestant approaches the 100 spin mark they could happen upon a downturn, in which case to cut the game off at 100 is not realistic.
Quote from: MauiSunset on March 12, 2011, 02:06:58 AM
That's my contest - 2 hours of play or 100 spins.
My contest is to go into a casino and leave everytime I reach my goal. It is very rare that I will stay in a win streak that surpasses my goal. But it is foolish not to stay until it ends. Sometimes several sessions can be very difficult. Minimizing the loss is essential. Your 100 spin, two hour test is not real world. It's also foolish. If that is what you are searching for than you have a lot more to learn. Anyway, your real test is to get yourself a few free drinks and tell yourself that you deserve to waste your time a little. The only thing I see is an apprentice trying to pretend he's a journeyman.
Quote from: bombus on March 12, 2011, 03:16:14 AM
I meant as the contestant approaches the 100 spin mark they could happen upon a downturn, in which case to cut the game off at 100 is not realistic.
True and that's where session 2 would continue forward another 100 spins. (Loss carries forward to).
If there is still a loss at 200 spins then continue to 300.
But 300 spins with still a loss would be something that no one would ever use, at least me.
Quote from: Gizmotron on March 12, 2011, 03:28:29 AM
My contest is to go into a casino and leave everytime I reach my goal. It is very rare that I will stay in a win streak that surpasses my goal. But it is foolish not to stay until it ends. Sometimes several sessions can be very difficult. Minimizing the loss is essential. Your 100 spin, two hour test is not real world. It's also foolish. If that is what you are searching for than you have a lot more to learn. Anyway, your real test is to get yourself a few free drinks and tell yourself that you deserve to waste your time a little. The only thing I see is an apprentice trying to pretend he's a journeyman.
I thought you were going to put me in the "ignore for life" category?
What happened?
I still think your parents won't let you go far without one of them. I doubt you've ever been in a casino in your life.
You have no insight into Random Numbers but delusional thoughts. You have no trading system and you will never demo your insane ideas in front of an audience.
Your ramblings are funny to read however - I get a real chuckle out of them..........
Here is my bets for the 300 spins
Wait for trigger and not playing every spin.
Trigger works on the DBL number.
Playing only the EC's and all 3 of them with each to its own BR.
On a lost increase the next bet by 1 and on win down with 1.
STOP ON WIN OR LOST AND WAIT FOR NEXT TRIGGER
Cheers
TCD
Quote from: Twocando on March 12, 2011, 07:20:54 AM
Here is my bets for the 300 spins
Wait for trigger and not playing every spin.
Trigger works on the DBL number.
Playing only the EC's and all 3 of them with each to its own BR.
On a lost increase the next bet by 1 and on win down with 1.
STOP ON WIN OR LOST AND WAIT FOR NEXT TRIGGER
Cheers
TCD
System failure - past random numbers generating a trigger are not grounded in any science or math in 2011.
Maybe a time traveler from 2311 coming back 300 years has advanced technology to make this work but our science and math today just doesn't.
Sorry to break that to you guys - triggers mean nothing since past random numbers are 100% worthless in future spins.
:sarcastic:
Quote from: MauiSunset on March 12, 2011, 02:05:42 PMpast random numbers are 100% worthless in future spins.
If you really believed that, you wouldn't be here. You're the gold miner who keeps saying the gold mine is played out, the gold is gone. Yet he keeps digging....
Quote from: cheese on March 12, 2011, 03:17:08 PM
If you really believed that, you wouldn't be here. You're the gold miner who keeps saying the gold mine is played out, the gold is gone. Yet he keeps digging....
You guys are the worst ventriloquists I've ever seen/heard - you keep trying to put words in my mouth that I've never uttered.
I'm here for the money management systems - they use 100% math and don't rely on UFO technologies to power them.
There is NO math or science that can be used to beat Roulette - only money management - and that's a maybe in my book.
If Roulette can be beaten it would have been done in the past 300 years - I'm sure every insane idea that a human mind can cook up has already been cooked up and failed.
MM will have to use statistics that always firm up and show their true stripes the more spins that take place.
All though I've never commented on Dealer's Signature and all the topics on wheel and ball physics that is all phony too; even though they may use real math and science. I'm an aerospace engineer and I can't imagine applying anything I know to the physics of the wheel and ball - it's total lunacy.
But I understand the human emotions of trying to beat something and you have no tools that work - your mind will cook up crazy theories for you to try as a last resort...
MauiSunset & Cheese are fly paper. They are here to attract people into wasting their reading time. In a way they are filibustering all the topics. Don't get stuck to the fly paper.
Quote from: Gizmotron on March 12, 2011, 03:42:14 PM
MauiSunset & Cheese are fly paper. They are here to attract people into wasting their reading time. In a way they are filibustering all the topics. Don't get stuck to the fly paper.
Shining the light of truth is what I bring to some of these totally insane topics.
I've not seen anything in your babbling grounded in reality but insanity.
My conclusion is that you are locked up in some insane-asylum with a cheap game system and dial-up access.
Honestly, that's my conclusion....
:sarcastic:
Quote from: MauiSunset on March 12, 2011, 03:52:56 PM
Shining the light of truth is what I bring to some of these totally insane topics.
I've not seen anything in your babbling grounded in reality but insanity.
My conclusion is that you are locked up in some insane-asylum with a cheap game system and dial-up access.
Honestly, that's my conclusion....
Who gives a shit? You are only in for the cheap drinks.
Cheap drinks ? huh. This cat drinks nothing but Johnny Walker blue label . :sarcastic:
Quote from: MauiSunset on March 12, 2011, 03:37:23 PM
All though I've never commented on Dealer's Signature and all the topics on wheel and ball physics that is all phony too; even though they may use real math and science. I'm an aerospace engineer and I can't imagine applying anything I know to the physics of the wheel and ball - it's total lunacy.
Read chapter 2 of "The Mathematics of Gambling" by Ed Thorp, he and Claude Shannon (the father of information theory) developed the first wearable roulette computer (which was based on physics by the way).
He also said that MM is a complete waste of time, but you know better, obviously. :sarcastic:
I guess if YOU can't imagine it then it can't be done.
Quote from: Mike on March 12, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
Read chapter 2 of "The Mathematics of Gambling" by Ed Thorp, he and Claude Shannon (the father of information theory) developed the first wearable roulette computer (which was based on physics by the way).
He also said that MM is a complete waste of time, but you know better, obviously. :sarcastic:
I guess if YOU can't imagine it then it can't be done.
Doubt I know better than these 2 guys - I'm experimenting with something that looks interesting - it's only stood up to 4.000 spins as of now - before I try it for real in Vegas at the end of April I'm going to try for 10,000 spins.
If I ever get it to work, I will demo it right here for you guys - if not it will be another Roulette scheme down the drain; and I will admit that is was a failure - I eat crow regularly - I have lots of opinions on lots of topics and am proven wrong on a regular frequency.
My purpose here is to find ideas that I like and incorporate them into a Roulette system that might only work for me and no one else. So far this one little tidbit I picked up only looks promising - not ready to bet $1 with it yet.
I sure hope folks here aren't perfect - that would crush my day....
P.S.
When I day trade stocks I can be long one minute and in 3 minutes be short the same stock - I long ago left emotions behind when it comes to investing or gambling. My goal is to make a profit or win and I don't care how much I must plow through to get there and how many times I must change my mind on a topic.
When I day trade stocks I'm just 66% accurate - that's twice as many wins as losses and a loss is equal to a win; hence I only win 1 unit of profit after investing in 3 trades - but it works for me.
@ MauiSunset,
Have you seen my 'Please win..' thread?
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/rbw-or-ttgtc-or-tbd-or-tmm/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/rbw-or-ttgtc-or-tbd-or-tmm/)
In this topic I am progressively engineering a mechanical system for the European roulette wheel, in real time, right here on the forum.
I admit so far the results are truly woeful, and the system looks like a steaming pile of dog shit (thanks Steve) best stepped around or over, but it is my intention to develop this method to the point where it will by demonstration defeat your 300 spin challenge with one leg raised, then I will add it to my list of Holy Nutsacks, lol.
So not only do I intend to take up your challenge some time soon, but I will do it with a mechanical rule based system that did not even exist when your challenge was announced. That should make it very interesting indeed!
I can see a mexican wave in the system players grandstand now! Sorry mathboyz, maybe you'll win the next round! Hehehe.
The original premise for the system itself has a curious story attached that will surprise many members if it ever becomes successful enough to post in the full systems section.
Then again, if it becomes too successful I will have to consult with Gizmotron as to whether I publish or not. ;)
Quote from: bombus on March 13, 2011, 03:17:46 AM
@ MauiSunset,
Have you seen my 'Please win..' thread?
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/rbw-or-ttgtc-or-tbd-or-tmm/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/rbw-or-ttgtc-or-tbd-or-tmm/)
In this topic I am progressively engineering a mechanical system for the European roulette wheel, in real time, right here on the forum.
I admit so far the results are truly woeful, and the system looks like a steaming pile of dog shit (thanks Steve) best stepped around or over, but it is my intention to develop this method to the point where it will by demonstration defeat your 300 spin challenge with one leg raised, then I will add it to my list of Holy Nutsacks, lol.
So not only do I intend to take up your challenge some time soon, but I will do it with a mechanical rule based system that did not even exist when your challenge was announced. That should make it very interesting indeed!
The original premise for the system itself has a curious story attached that will surprise many members if it ever becomes successful enough to post in the full systems section.
Then again, if it becomes too successful I will have to consult with Gizmotron as to whether I publish or not. ;)
I saw the thread a while ago - I have a hard time following it so I've not commented on it.
I wish you luck in the challenge, as I do to all others who have the guts to demo their system in real time.
I can not tell you just how happy I will be to see a system win my $25 prize - it will probably be the best $25 I've ever spent.
Good luck...
What a ridiculous topic.
If some one would show some one then he or she just date the files from random org and add strict rules towards how to play - no need for public test.
Hey, I have c**kies...
No really I have c**kies, well actually they're parrots but what's the difference?
Quote from: bombus on March 13, 2011, 03:31:07 AM
Is that $25 USD, or $25 AUD? ;D ;D ;D
US Dollars - the are nearly worthless so I have lots of them. Maybe by the time I award the $25 you can use 25 $1 bills to start your BBQ or fireplace on a cold night.
America long ago dumped backing our money with Gold or Silver, now they are backed with the silver tongues of our politicians.....
Quote from: MauiSunset on March 13, 2011, 03:35:16 AM
US Dollars - the are nearly worthless so I have lots of them. Maybe by the time I award the $25 you can use 25 $1 bills to start your BBQ or fireplace on a cold night.
America long ago dumped backing our money with Gold or Silver, now they are backed with the silver tongues of our politicians.....
Yeah, it's a worry...
Quote from: I have cookies on March 13, 2011, 03:29:37 AM
What a ridiculous topic.
If some one would show some one then he or she just date the files from random org and add strict rules towards how to play - no need for public test.
Seriously, I would agree normally.
I do see that mechanical rule based systems should be able to win under both conditions, real wheel and RNG.
But the pivotal point for the system I am developing for this challenge is that the wheel/dealer can only ever miss my bet by 1 pocket, no matter what I bet or how much, the wheel/dealer/random has a vey small margin of error.
That's the plan anyway...
Normally a strategy has no mechanical rules.It is very difficult to explain a complicated strategy.Statistic and mathematical rules are part of my strategy.I will not proof to have a winning strategy but there are forummembers ,who are curious.They are wellcome to watch a demonstration.