Hi guys,
I have been gone for some time but here is a new fun system that has not let me down yet (although I have not played it for real money).
The gameplay is real simple... you need a BR of 500, Below is an example of one game I played on Roulette Xtreme.
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Here are the rules:
There are 12 streets on a board. We are going to add one unit to certain streets on every spin (except when zero hit). To determine on which streets to bet, you divide and multiply the last spin by 2: I.e last number hit was 16, thus I have 8 and 32. I add one unit to both streets 3 and 11. Just keep adding units as the numbers appear (in some cases I had 32 units on a single street ;D ).
Certain numbers are handled differently. When any number above 20 hit, you only bet on the divided streets (I.e. 20, divided gives 10 so you only add one unit to street 4.) If an uneven number hit, like 17 you multiply by 2 = 34 and to divide you subtract 1 before dividing by 2 (I.e. 17-1 =16/2=8) so for number 17 you bet on street 3 and street 12. Do this for all numbers that are not equal. Two possible exceptions can be 1 and 19. If 1 hit, you only add a unit to the first street (since 1x2 = 2). When 19 hit, you subtract 1 and bet on street 3, and if you want you could also bet on street 12 (18x2=36). Whenever zero hits, just spin again.
Whenever a number hit that increases your BR (even by 1 unit) you start over: clear the board and multiply and divide the last number. This game is a little crazy in that you never stop betting until you increased your BR. Just keep on adding those units on every spin :'(
There has been a few hairy periods when playing this game, as you can see in the graph, but in the end it has always pulled through... JUST REMEMBER: Always note down your last BR, and whenever it increases (even by 1 unit) note it down, clear the board and start over with the last number. This game will probably go bust (although it never happened to me yet after about 5500 spins - by hand). So try it and let me know.
NB: I never played this for real money... try it out first before betting real money!!!
Start by one spin (no bets).
Take the number that hit and multiply it by 2 and divide it by two (I.e. 10 ... thus 5 and 20)
Bet 1 unit on both streets containing 5 and 20.
Spin and again muliply and divide number by 2 and bet another unit on those streets.
If numbers above 20 hit, only bet on the divided street.
If Zero hit, ignore and continue.
If 1 hit, but another unit on first street. If 2 hit, add unit to street 1 and street 2.
If for instance 36 hit... then only bet on the divided number's street I.e. 18.
Here is another game. I wanted to play only 150 spins, but as I said, you must keep playing until your BR increases by at least one. This game had a bit of a rocky start, but it smoothed out nicely at the end.
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In this game I made 207 units in 152 spins playing only single units.
Another game. I planned only to play 150 spins, but it took just over 200 spins. 55 spins more than I planned, but I ended with a nice profit. Had a nasty dip in the beginning and the end
Still, it was worth it. 258 units profit in 205 spins.
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Glad I didn't play this game with my own money :o This one was really harsh, but in the end it ended in a profit.
Again I aimed to play for only 150 spins, but a string of bad luck (a lot of zero's) had this game running for 507 spins. Really sad about the huge drawdown. I am beginning to think that there is some real possibility in this method... I haven't seen many methods that are able to pull into a profit from such a drawdown. But some tweaking will be required cause few people has the kind of money to survive a drawdown such as this. This is the first bad game and I have played hundreds of them. I usually quit as soon as possible after 150 spins.
Still made a decent profit in the end. 266 units profit in 507 spins. Glad this one is over! :yahoo:
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This game ended at 151 spins (this is not a rule, but I try to end the game as soon as I have increased my BR after 150 spins - sometimes this can take some time ;D )
This games was quite straightforward. 151 spins and 292 units profit.
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So far in 4 games I made 1023 units profit after 1015 spins. The third game was a nightmare (the first I had in many many games).
I wanted to end this game at spin 149 since I was in profit. I decided not to since I decided not to quit until I played at least 150 spins. Luckily the game ended in a profit at spin 166.
Another 157 units of profit. NICE
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Hey guys, how about some comments. Please someone, give this a try. Just for fun. 8) It does have a drawdown, but it has the ability to pull right out of a drawdawn into a profit.
Looks interesting but I am downright confused. I ended up starting with the number 35 which I then simply subtracted by 1 then divided by 2 then I ended up with 17 so I wondered do I bet on the street with 17 because there is no street 17. . . I was so confused. Lol.
Oh, my goodness! This system is amazing! I finally figured it out and I love it! Very creative system, babs! I will continue testing and let you know how it goes.
IF, yes IF the wheel cooperates with you then you have no problem with any artificially created so called "winning "system until the excrement hit the fan while playing for REAL money at live roulette table in a B & M casino.
Dream on with your paper successes. :yahoo:
I might sound cruel but I am a REALIST . :ok:
N.D.
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on February 22, 2011, 02:35:26 PM
IF, yes IF the wheel cooperates with you then you have no problem with any artificially created so called "winning "system until the excrement hit the fan while playing for REAL money at live roulette table in a B & M casino.
Dream on with your paper successes. :yahoo:
I might sound cruel but I am a REALIST . :ok:
N.D.
Hi Nathan,
I cannot agree more. If you read my post you will see that I have no false hope that this system is the holy grail. I have created quite a few systems in my time, and I tested even more... I have no doubt that this system will go bust. I just enjoy the process of creating these systems. The only reason I am so excited about this one is that it is ridiculously easy and, of all my systems I ever tested, the only one that can consistently come back from a huge drawdown (but for that you do need some deep pockets at times).
Just try it... it is quite enjoyable!
Quote from: Droganson on February 22, 2011, 02:00:55 PM
Looks interesting but I am downright confused. I ended up starting with the number 35 which I then simply subtracted by 1 then divided by 2 then I ended up with 17 so I wondered do I bet on the street with 17 because there is no street 17. . . I was so confused. Lol.
Oh, my goodness! This system is amazing! I finally figured it out and I love it! Very creative system, babs! I will continue testing and let you know how it goes.
Sorry if my explanation was a bit confusing. Glad you figured it out. It is quite nice and very very simple. I play all my games until 150 spins, and then I start new the moment I hit a profit. Just remember that you only clear the board once your BR is at an higher point than before. This is the one part of my system that can do with some serious tweaking since I had a huge drawdown today of over 4000 units, but as you can see in the graph, the system did prevail in the end.
This system is real nice for some casual playing (with play money of course).
Another profitable game. Took a few spins more than planned, and it had some scary periods :swoon:
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166 spins with a profit of 114 units
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What I like about this program:
1) Easy
2) Quick
3) Appears profitable
4) Ability to make an extreme comeback
What I do not like about this:
1) Can have some hairy drawdowns, but then again look at point 4 above.
I think if you continue playing this beyond 150 spins it could be even better.
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Ok, so far I have the following stats over the last few games I posted here (this is not the only testing I have done):
Total Spins: 1664
Total Profit: 2296 units
1.38 units profit per spin.
Not to bad for a paper system. If only I knew how to program this in RX. That should give it a real test
babs,
Reference is made to tour chart at post # 11. Not to throw you off track but I would like to give you my take on how I would have played with this $ 500 Bankroll.
I have noticed that after about 22 spins or coups you were up $ 75 00. At this point I would have GUARANTEED myself 10 % and rat holed this $ 50 with original $ 500.--.
Then I wou;d have continued with the remaining $ 25 until the FIRST loss.
That`s how winners are made. Not to forget a loss limit of 25 %. :ok:
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Thanks. I will look into that a bit closer. At this moment the system is still extremely raw. A lot of tweaking to be done. But this is fun.
This was a nice game. I played with RX and used real numbers (Westspiel). Played for 646 spins. I quit because of time, and my last spin was profit. If only I could code this. I tried, but was not successful.
Starting BR 500
Played single Units
End BR 1700
Total Spins 646
Total Profit: 1200
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Starting BR: 500
Ending BR: 1425
Profit: 925
Total spins: 855
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So far this system is quite robust. I haven't done anything in terms of money management. I will attend to that later. I did made one tweak: I added Zero also. I play every spin with a unit on zero, which I increase according to my betsize. Whenever my betsize is will be bigger than my potential win if I hit zero, I increase zero with a unit. What amazes me is the way this system can make a comeback from a drawdown.
In the games I posted here, using Roulette Xtreme with Real Spins from Westspiel, this system made a profit of 3867 in 3364 spins. That is about 1.15 units per spin.
Thanks Babs, I shall be looking into this particular method.
Regards
BW
Thanks Babs, nice to see you back. I am at a loss as to how this works mathematically; I can't see why it should have an edge, but I'll test it for sure.
Sam
Quote from: birdhands on February 24, 2011, 02:28:54 PM
Thanks Babs, nice to see you back. I am at a loss as to how this works mathematically; I can't see why it should have an edge, but I'll test it for sure.
Sam
I also have no idea. As you can see in the graphs I posted of the system, it just does. I have played a few hundred of these games over the past few months (mostly I stopped as soon as possible after 150 spins, but I have played a few for as long as was possible.)
Be warned though: I had two games show an extreme drawdown. One of them is posted on this thread. What does surprise me is that this system has the ability to make a comeback and end in a profit... everytime. I had never played this system without being able to end in a profit (although the drawdown gets hairy at times).
Just to restate the system (with the one tweak I made so far):
1) Always bet at least one unit on 0. Increase this as the game progress by always making sure you will make more than you bet if 0 hits. i.e if your total bet is 35, keep 1 unit on 0 (thus, if 0 hits you make 1 unit). If your total bet increase to 36, put 2 units on 0 etc.)
2) Take the last number hit and divide and multiply it by 2, i.e. 6 - gives you 3 and 12. Bet 1 unit on each street that contains those two (street 1 and Street 4). Keep adding units to the necessary street. You only clear the board if your BR increased from its highest point (even if it is just by 1 unit). This requires some patience and guts. During one game my total bet was 179 units (48 units on 1 street) and I still made a profit. Just keep adding units and keep an eye on your BR.
3) Certain numbers are special: 1 - it cannot be divided, so when 1 hit only add 1 unit to Street 1. If 2 hit, you add 1 unit to Street 1 and 1 unit to Street 2. When unequal numbers hit, multiply by 2 i.e 7 x 2= 14. 7 cannot be divided, so subtract 1 and divide: 7-1=6 divided by 2 = 3. Thus if 7 hit, add 1 unit to Street 1 and 1 unit to Street 5. 19 is also special. Everytime 19 hits you add 1 unit to Street 3 AND 1 unit to Street 6 (18*2=36). For numbers above 19 you simply add to the lower Streets since the Numbers cannot be multiplied. This tend to favor the lower part of the streets (i.e. their bets become larger quicker - I am working on another method, but at this moment it works real well).
4) NB - ALWAYS restart whenever a profit that increases your BR by more than one is reach. DO NOT PLAY THIS WITH REAL MONEY YET. IT LOOKS PROMISING, BUT I HAVE NEVER PLAYED IT FOR REAL MONEY. I do however use numbers from real casinos (through RX20).
Didn't have much time to play the last day, but here is another nice game:
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I stopped at Spin 287 since I was in a nice profit.
Starting BR: 500
Ending BR: 932
Profit: 432
This one was quite nice. Adding Zero to the mix made a huge difference. This system still surprise me, especially coming back from a drawdown.
Out of the 11 games posted here, only One game would have destroyed my starting BR. I continued that game just to see what happens and it still ended in a profit, although the drawdown was over 4000 units.
Subtracting the losing game I still have a total profit of 2058 units after 11 games.
babs,
Roulette is a game of luck and will always be. Take $ 500 cash to a B & M casino and you will get a very rude awakening.
Not to dampen your enthusiasm but this is reality. Roulette and Craps are games of chance while Black Jack and Pai Gow Poker are games of skill. Of those two Pai Gow Poker is by far the better one .BJ is a tough one even if it is considered a game of skill.
Nathan Detroit.
QuoteRoulette is a game of luck and will always be. Take $ 500 cash to a B & M casino and you will get a very rude awakening.
I am not disagreeing with you. This is just my pet project. I enjoy playing Roulette, even without money. Precious few systems will hold up to Roulette in the long run... that has been proven over and over again.