I know forester you guys are talking about. I bought his ffz computer years ago.
I won twice with it but later lost it all and more. I did everything right but the dvd and real play are very different. I think he is a scammer for sure and I was going to report him but lost interest. I only paid about $500 anyway.
From his competitor I found his real name is MIRO ZIRDUM and he lives at **** removed**** and his home phone is **** removed****. I even managed to dig up an photo of him and even a pic of his crappy house I will attach. He even looks like a slick creep. I hope someone can get a refund with this.
When I last tried to log in to his private forum my account didnt exist but not worth kicking a stink over it.
But when I was in the private areas I never found any player who couold make winnings with it for real. All I knew was miro was saying some people were making thousands. It is all bullshit and other people I spoke with think the same.
Again he is doing it on his open forum saying a player is making thousands and thousands with so much money he cant even pass through airport terminals, but he says that players is scared to come on the forum so nobody can talk to him. Bullshit. I never spoke to anybody who make anything. all the while saying everyone else is a scammer. The stuff on his forum is the same for years. he is a scammer. Probably mark howe and stefano are also and they never use their computer to make a dollar.
like another player viper said on the forum, visual ballistics is better than a computer. he got banned but looks like is back now. I wont get into is more but if you can find a wheel that is very easy to win on then thats different. anybody can get the same results using ballistics without any stupid computer because it just find same time when there is the same ball time to go. Probably he improved his computer now but fact is he sold me stuff.
I will never buy a computer again. I dont think any of them work outside a controlled test or dvd movie.
I know the forum owner Steve would disagree but it is how it is. If you call them a scam or not whatever, point is you cant make money with them except maybe one a perfect wheel same with ballistics
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Here is his photo and where to get your money back
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Telden, by posting images and private information you will open a can of worms, so I'll have to remove it. Also please check your private messages.
Why a re you helping him?????? I thought you would let me post that for sure!
meet in chat??
Here is photo that was removed not on your website
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can you fix my first post now?
On another note Telden, dont assume all computers are the same. It takes just a few hours to code what foresters computers do.
And sorry no I wont add any content for you. You have to do that yourself, provided you adhere to the rules. As discussed, the limit is only what he imposes for his own sites.
as I said, you cannot post information on the forum like that. You can have your own link, but remotely hosted or not, do not post his private information. If you change the image again or put it directly on the forum, then I have no option but to remove you. You can have your own link explaining your experiences, but not linked to information like that.
that doesnt make sense because bagos site has all that information also and he has the link all over the site. You said I could do the same
Sorry I should have been more specific. Do not post private addresses, photos, or phone numbers. And do not post links to them.
You can:
* post links to your own pages provided they dont contain any of the above material
* post such links in your signature
* tell your story as you see fit
Where did you get that photo from anyway? I've never seen it before, but it is indeed him.
google images, google maps. there is a site that has him in a photo with a group of strange looking peeps. got his name and address from gamblersglen. com. Am I allowed to say that??? I think google lists even what I have for dinner ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: telden on March 02, 2011, 01:39:20 AM
I think google lists even what I have for dinner ;D ;D ;D
Yes it does...
you don't actually eat that swill do you?
swill? I had to google it!
I googled you and got 12 pages of bee photos
Telden, I really dont want to play his games
steve whatever
did anyone else here have a computer? any computer.
I am interested to know especially if anyone made any money with any computer or even visual ballistics. so far I think it is all bullshit except maybe some wheels you can never find are ok. I dont think it is realistic. send me a message if you like I wont tell anyone if you want
Quote from: telden on March 02, 2011, 08:30:37 AM
Steve whatever
did anyone else here have a computer? any computer.
I am interested to know especially if anyone made any money with any computer or even visual ballistics. so far I think it is all bullshit except maybe some wheels you can never find are ok. I dont think it is realistic. send me a message if you like I wont tell anyone if you want
Hi Teldon,
first of all. When you played with this computer did you play correctly? I ask because you do not seem to believe that money can be made with VB either.
Be 100% honest when you answer these questions.
1) Did you track the wheel you were playing? Or did you just walk in and start playing?
1.1) If you did track it what did you track?
2) What was your bankroll and how many numbers did you play per spin?
3) Did you allow for CW and CCW calculations? (Maybe two DD's one for each direction)
4) Did you make any mistakes when playing? Maybe missing a number that should of been covered.
When it comes to VB (and computers I assume) alot of pre-preparation has to be done. This is very important. One does not just walk in and start betting. There are alot of factors that have to be considered. AP is the only proven method of beating roulette in the longterm. That does not mean that it is easy. Alot of hard work has to go into it.
From your posts where you ask if anyone has won with VB I can see that you are inexperienced. Not that I am attacking you. I can understand your frustration but I have to point out that I'm 99% sure you didn't approach this right. Remember If you use VB or a computer, which pretty much does the same, you could effectively loose much quicker than your average Joe playing his mother's birthday numbers if you do not take everything into consideration. In short. There are no quick fixes with AP. You have to put in the work and prepare properly. Only then will you consistantly start showing positive results.
On another note. If you do everything right, you will be amazed how quickly you can generate profits.
Warm regards
Z
1. I did everything right. I find good wheel with smallest bounce I can find and good dominant pins. Just nothing like in dvd forester supply. his dvd is not like real wheels
2. I played many different times with different bankroll. Some scatter showed needed to bet 8 numbers sometimes 5 sometimes 12. That was not the problem the scatter was very weak. I did hundreds of spins
3. Of course I allow for ccw and cw directions
4. I did perfect on dvds I did everything right. Nobody else make any money I speak to other players on ff forester forum. Never one. Zilch. Just he says someo people are making money but we can never speak to them and they are afraid to go on the forum. Bullshit. He is a scammer. I am not stupid other users never make a cent i find and we are not all just stupid
Ok you can win on very wheels easy to beat but where? I am not new with roulette and find vb is more versatile than ff computer.
The problem was not me. It was a computer that does not work away from home. The zap was impossible to use in the real casino for most of the times and when I could see predictions they were not accurate.
vb is exactly the same as foresters computers. viper at ff forum said it many times and was right. if you pay anything to use a computer and can do better with vb you waste your money
Quote from: telden on March 25, 2011, 06:26:51 AM
1. I did everything right. I find good wheel with smallest bounce I can find and good dominant pins. Just nothing like in dvd forester supply. his dvd is not like real wheels
2. I played many different times with different bankroll. Some scatter showed needed to bet 8 numbers sometimes 5 sometimes 12. That was not the problem the scatter was very weak. I did hundreds of spins
3. Of course I allow for ccw and cw directions
4. I did perfect on dvds I did everything right. Nobody else make any money I speak to other players on ff forester forum. Never one. Zilch. Just he says someo people are making money but we can never speak to them and they are afraid to go on the forum. Bullshit. He is a scammer. I am not stupid other users never make a cent I find and we are not all just stupid
Ok you can win on very wheels easy to beat but where? I am not new with roulette and find vb is more versatile than ff computer.
The problem was not me. It was a computer that does not work away from home. The zap was impossible to use in the real casino for most of the times and when I could see predictions they were not accurate.
vb is exactly the same as foresters computers. viper at ff forum said it many times and was right. if you pay anything to use a computer and can do better with vb you waste your money
Hey. From what I have researched, Forester is not a scammer, how ever hes old version of computers are very poor, hence the price of $500.
He is now selling hes computers for around 1-2 k. But this is still cheap.
If you want to invest in a computer that works, I recomend you pay Steve a visit.
Steve's computers are NOT bogus.
James.
Quote from: telden on March 25, 2011, 06:26:51 AM
1. I did everything right. I find good wheel with smallest bounce I can find and good dominant pins. Just nothing like in dvd forester supply. his dvd is not like real wheels
2. I played many different times with different bankroll. Some scatter showed needed to bet 8 numbers sometimes 5 sometimes 12. That was not the problem the scatter was very weak. I did hundreds of spins
3. Of course I allow for ccw and cw directions
4. I did perfect on dvds I did everything right. Nobody else make any money I speak to other players on ff forester forum. Never one. Zilch. Just he says someo people are making money but we can never speak to them and they are afraid to go on the forum. Bullshit. He is a scammer. I am not stupid other users never make a cent I find and we are not all just stupid
Ok you can win on very wheels easy to beat but where? I am not new with roulette and find vb is more versatile than ff computer.
The problem was not me. It was a computer that does not work away from home. The zap was impossible to use in the real casino for most of the times and when I could see predictions they were not accurate.
vb is exactly the same as foresters computers. viper at ff forum said it many times and was right. if you pay anything to use a computer and can do better with vb you waste your money
You say that Forester's computer does not work. Yet in your last sentence you say that vb is exactly the same as his computers. So you are saying that vb does not work?
You mention scatter very loosely. Did you do a full scatter chart? His FFZ works on the basis of timing wheel speed then ball deceleration and on a tilted wheel all very very justified method. I have spoken to some guys with FFV and FFZ and FFA. They tell me it works fine. Viper you referred to is not only back at Forester's site but helped with newest 'viper' program which as I understand is damn deadly.
It is easy to attack others and blame others to hide one's own dificiencies. I'm not looking for a fight, I'm just saying.
You say you are experienced and have played vb for years. You then ask if anyone has won consistantly with vb. That means you have not. So you obviously are not doing it correctly. I win on a consistant basis.
warm regards
Z
I dont consider forester a "scammer", but from first-hand experience I know he misleads people about many things. I dont have the energy to get into it all again. My only interest with him is addressing his false claims about me
I have to be clear what I mean. forester says many of his users are making money. I never spoke to one of them that is. I just read about how one is making so much money they cant get through airport terminals. what is the money falling out his pockets?? I only hear about these phantoms that are just too scared to speak to anyone at the forum. Nobody I know from forum speaks to them either.
does anyone really believe it and is born yesterday? Maybe other people were born yesterday. that is what I call a gifted scammer. people believe him?? Its bullshit. Last time was just before christams. did he need a lift in sales to buy presents so made up a winning person?? that is why I say he is a scammer and very smart one. I really am a honest person and I say what I really think and am fair to say I really think he is not telling the truth. is it strange that nobody can speak to these winners?
I cant visit Steve and I can learn nothing from his videos they can be faked by anybody. it is too much to pay on faith and it looks like hes are the same anyway and do nothing to help bad scatter. if I said what I think of him I would be banned and I also saw his system
zinrod foresters computers work but only on dvd like I said. they dont work I mean on real wheels. I never got any good results with real wheels in the casino.
I know vb works on dvd or wheel that I can never find and then you have other problems to implement the computer. the easy days are over unless you have time to look at 100 wheels all to make a small profit then get banned. I just never find one person that is making money with it. Just we all have same problem with good on dvd and bad in casino.
my scatter diagrams had at least 30 sometimes more than 50 spins in each direction. the scatter was too much. I did everything right. the problem insofar I can see is not anything viper fixes.
is viper program deadly accurate at what?? The ff before the viper was supposed to be deadly accurate too but even with new viper I still see people talking but not doing
I am not giving up completely playing roulette and still look for good conditions but I give up on computers and prefer vb because it is more suitable for changing conditions and I dont need a computer to replicate what it does.
A well skilled vb player is better than any roulette computer and people should save their money. using a computer you introduce new problems that you easily work with using vb with some skill. Until I hear someone is really making constant profits with viper instead of a uncontactable winner who has so much cash he cant go through airport terminals, I will stick to vb because it does the same thing and I dont need to cheat.
who cant get a reference point to know when ball has around 5 revolutions to go. thats what viper was saying and was right.
we are all looking to beat roulette so I would really like to be wrong but I have put too much time and work into testing and just found foresters ff is not viable in my conditions
Ok. The thing is just that scatter is scatter. Whether you use a RC or vb. The strike number is what is important.
Do you play traditional VB?
warm regards
Z
Telden:
1. Actually read the information at nolinks.roulette-computers.com/comparison.htm (nolinks://nolinks.roulette-computers.com/comparison.htm)
2. You have never seen my system. All you could have seen is the primordials document - primordial because it is introductory. The basics. If you dont actually read the available information, you wont know any better.
3. True that scatter on modern wheels is much harder to beat than "easy wheels". So what is your definition of scatter? Like forester's or barnett's version, is it merely whatever happens once the ball falls? Wouldnt that be a little presumptuous? Incomplete? Simplistic?
forester's computers are simply:
a. Find ball drop time, exactly like you do with vb (remaining revolutions)
b. Find rotor orientation at that time
That's it. Nothing else. That's why you get identical results if you apply reasonable vb. His computers are more VB aids that modern computers. Anyone who doesn't know about them would be impressed when they get great accuracy on his dvds, but then find reality when they play on a real wheel.
There is point set for his later versions of FFA, but it is a complete waste of time unless you can get predictions so late that you cant even bet. He knew this, and I said it many times, which is exactly why he created the viper program. The viper program is simply the computer says the ball time, and you need to make sense of it then apply it. It is better than the old point set because you dont rely on just one spin, but there is a much, much better way of doing it. My computers can do it a similar way as an option (manually), automatically, or with a completely different method. Eventually he'll abandon his "point set" for something different but better. I know because I've been through the development myself.
But as far as the "point set" thing goes, see nolinks.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/ffar7.wmv (nolinks://nolinks.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/ffar7.wmv) - my computer has had this capability for years. On that note I've had AUTOMATED roulette computers for years too (nolinks.hybridroulettecomputer.com (nolinks://nolinks.hybridroulettecomputer.com)), . I could go on and on about it, but do your research.
To call forester a scammer outright is not correct imo. Essentially he offers very basic roulette computers that emulate what VB does. Anyone who understands such basic algorithms would understand they literally can be coded in an hour or so. My computers have literally taken many thousands of hours to develop, test, and code - and that's just the software element. I'm not counting hardware's firmware or hardware itself which involve very heavy development to make a suitable platform.
please do proper research before assuming and accusing. If you believe rubbish that is written and dont do your own investigations, what you think you know is limited to garbage from others have an interest in lying or misleading people.
There is so much more to prediction that solely strike diamond. Much more is needed.
Steve his latest FFA software doesn t have Pont Set.
So I think you should better investigate properly and then post your impressions.
Can your RC avoid 90% of the spins that will not hit the DD...and all this on a modern Casino wheel???
Absolutelly not!
Psolaras, his viper program uses an alternative to point set. And that is note the ball timings and what the ball does, then isolate. I read even his own player said doing what is required is like wearing a t-short saying "I'm using a computer". I've explained it many times. If you havent read it, please do
QuoteCan your RC avoid 90% of the spins that will not hit the DD...and all this on a modern Casino wheel???
Absolutelly not!
See nolinks://nolinks.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/ffar7.wmv (nolinks://nolinks.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/ffar7.wmv) and nolinks.roulette-computers.com/comparison.htm (nolinks://nolinks.roulette-computers.com/comparison.htm) oh and nolinks://nolinks.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/diamond.wmv (nolinks://nolinks.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/diamond.wmv)
Notice I use real spins, not dvd. And note how early predictions are. Also dont forget the wheel used has a velstone ball track, which has ball chattering towards the end of the spin which makes things harder. Perhaps use ffa on the same spins and compare results
Like I said many times, my computer has had this capability for many years. Like I said many times, my computer now does something even better than the typical diamond targeting. Even my very first computer had this ability. Please do better research.
Do you know that the Viper program can also predict in ANY revolution??? :)
Again, my computer has had that capability since DAY ONE. He made such a big deal over what should be a mundane thing, he even made a colourful name for it . . . the "unlimited". Anything else you'd like to say?..
Back then, forester said it was impossible to do. Then many years later, he implemented a "patch" to do it, by assuming the ball deceleration was linear, when it is not. My computers use the actual proper curve.
I suggest read nolinks.roulette-computers.com/comparison.htm (nolinks://nolinks.roulette-computers.com/comparison.htm) and save us both time.
Steve I have seen your videos with your RC predictions.....
The diamond strikes and the ofset of predictions are ALL RANDOM........
If you like to play with someone play with someone with NO knowledje and expirience in Ap.
what makes them random?
I already told you !
The relation between the Strike point number and the outcome.........
If the RC doesn t predict in a steady OFSET we can t have prediction......same with VB
I can play Randomly without an RC...thanks ;D
Quote from: Psolaras on March 28, 2011, 07:28:42 PM
Steve his latest FFA software doesn t have Pont Set.
So I think you should better investigate properly and then post your impressions.
Can your RC avoid 90% of the spins that will not hit the DD...and all this on a modern Casino wheel???
Absolutelly not!
You clearly have not done your research.
James.
so you are assuming my computer does exactly the same thing as ffa? My computers adjust the offset automatically. That means the predictions you get in the video nolinks://nolinks.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/diamond.wmv (nolinks://nolinks.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/diamond.wmv) are automatically tuned.
Is there anything else?
LOL..... Redsquad.....who know better??? You or the system designer ?
This was the best proof that you are full of $hit! :lol:
yes Steve....I would like to say that the things that youi say are silly even if they were in a Hollywood movie....
I can also make a video with my dog making predictions.....and when I will film the best LUCKY video that I won 4 times in a ROW with a 5 sectors bet then I can post the video and say that my dog is the best roulette dog predictor ever with 100 accurasy ;D
Quoteyes Steve....I would like to say that the things that youi say are silly even if they were in a Hollywood movie.... I can also make a video with my dog making predictions.....and when I will film the best LUCKY video that I won 4 times in a ROW with a 5 sectors bet then I can post the video and say that my dog is the best roulette dog predictor ever with 100 accurasy
... not a very scientific response. if you have anything else to say other than complete nonsense, please do so and lets not waste more time
Ok man do u need a scientific response???
Ok then tell me.....which scatter ur RC is betting at???? The latest??? the average??? the what????
It begins automatic tuning from the first spin.
Viper, everything is already addressed
This no answer......read again the question
How my computer determines scatter and which offset to apply is something I wouldnt tell you. But watch the video carefully when I show the computer. In the top left of the computer's screen, you see the actual offset the computer has selected.
ps - sorry but your avatar was disturbing me. I had to make it more suitable for a forum with predominantly males.
How my computer determines scatter and which offset to apply is something I wouldnt tell you
is this the scientific answer????
Come on man....all ppl with Ap knowledge know that yor RC works randomly.
I will not speak with you though cycles.......I told what I had to say,,,,,.,Manuel was telling the same things and You banned him!!!!!!!!!
Viper RC has tested in real conditions on a 2 pin wheel....
1st test was setting the RC to 1 PIn game and the 90 % of the spins that hit an other D was NOT predictid in order to save us!
2nd test the RC setted in 2 pin game and the 90 % of predictions took advantage of both pins.........
No RC on planet could do those things until NOW with such accurasy........
Viper, you have not shown me one shred of evidence of your claim.
I banned Manuel because he was attacking me personally instead of providing anything to support claims.
lol @ your artwork. Mine was better though.
Viper I really dont have more time for this sorry
From From a scientific perspective he was telling truth and u didn t like it .
The only thing u do is making money from ppl with no knowledje.,.....u are not deferent than win3million.
No viper, he thought he was telling the truth.
Knowing the truth just make YOU suffer...... LOL so ban me and u will not suffer anymore
Ok Steve when you will make a system that can predict with a 80% accurasy a wheel of strike point with 1 pin then come and talck to me again........until then ur Random Rcs can t win and thats why u don t play.
Bye
Viper you have no valid comments and its all been addressed before
How can they see it when they know shit about a VB prediction.....LOL
you can t show anything to a blind man...and u are taking advantage of those blind men and their money
all the ppl with AP knowledje has told that u are a scam....so what else do u need>?
Viper what on earth?? Its not complicated. In my last public demo, over 90% accuracy betting 15 numbers. Many witnesses, all recorded. I've done many public demos. FFA got about 1/3 of the accuracy on the same spins. And I only used basic settings. Many of my players also have FF.
yes and I also saw ur cientific proof .....ur proof is that u can t talk about it........LOL
come on man,.,....u should play in a cartoon ....
snowman got tired of waiting for you to make the TEST
Kelly is still waitting for months.....
|U claim u have no time BUT u are here and posting BD+S every day
Quoteur proof is that u can t talk about it
No you asked what offset I used, right? I told you my computer selects it automatically. But if you want to know the offset used, see the computer screen when it is shown in the video. Its not difficult.
As for online challenge, all in time. It would take multiple days of straight play or another player do to it for me though.
same emty talk ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL over again !
The same empty Steve as always
I hardly think my in-person and group/public demos of my computers and system is errr "empty", wouldnt you agree? I know I know... I must have used voodoo or magnets.
Viper, you divert from topic, as usual. Everyone can read exactly what happened.
In the end, I asked you to substantiate your claims of "random predictions".. a claim you made when you had nowhere to go. And your response is just like your others - nothing substantiated.
Quote from: Psolaras on March 28, 2011, 08:29:18 PM
LOL..... Redsquad.....who know better??? You or the system designer ?
This was the best proof that you are full of $hit! :lol:
Nah. Its called doing PROPER research. Im talking weeks even months. I know you havent done so, well certainly not to the extent i have done anyway.
That's how i know.
James.
True and someone like viper doesn't do proper research. He gets information from forester. Eventually it becomes personal and messy. The human side of me wants to rub the truth in faces sometimes, which isnt productive though i know.
Quote from: Steve on March 28, 2011, 09:29:08 PM
True and someone like viper doesn't do proper research. He gets information from forester - what a great accurate source of information. Eventually it becomes personal, like it has here, and they end up hating me for their own mistakes and looking like an idiot. From then on, even the tiniest thing is distorted by them to suit their purpose of discrediting me. But still, truth wins. And anyone who seeks it and does proper research will see this. But again, the truth becomes irrelevant to some. Bago is still the worst case though (besides mark, but mark is a whole different case) - beyond immature and so determined to not look like a fool. He doesn't realize it yet, but he is more fighting himself than me - his own failures. Every little thing is twisted to suit the image of me he tries to portray, instead of him coming out admitting he made mistakes. It becomes purely malicious, doing everything conceivable to harm me. Thats why I ended up taking forester for court and while he got away with his pathetic behaviour, even the judge said his behaviour was unacceptable and consistent with stalking - just not quite there on the seriousness factor. Mark and bago did far worse but I havent had time or interest to take it further with the police. People that lose get personal, when they know truth prevents them from doing anything further. The relevance of actual truth doesn't register in their heads, otherwise there would not be conflict. These kind of people are not the type who apologise. they just sink deeper into lies and manipulation, ever coming out with even more incredible bs - out of desperation. I really dont help it and do rub it in. I've put up with enough of it. I'm only human.
Marky boy was the worst out of them all I think. The lies he told were sick, not even funny. He has a raging jealousy against you. Yeah forester also is full of bullshit, but not the sick man like mark is.
At the end of the day, the people who believe them, it is truly there loss. I say screw them and let them get on with it.
Believe what you want to believe but again its your loss, maybe one day you will figure out the truth. But it may just be too late...
Final conclusion : If you think Steve's Roulette system is not genuine, then what can I say, it really is your loss. That's it.
James.
Anyone with the will to actually find the truth would conclude my systems are legitimate. I mean people like forester etc know I teach legitimate AP. It doesn't make a difference. They have ulterior motives.
Quote from: Steve on March 28, 2011, 09:49:44 PM
Anyone with the will to actually find the truth would conclude my systems are legitimate. I mean people like forester etc know I teach legitimate AP. It doesn't make a difference. they are dishonest people with a vendetta. There is more than enough clear information for people to know the truth. My point was the proof is irrelevant to some. And yes, mark is for sure the worst - absolutely he is sick. I'd better get back to work now.. all fun and games.
How can one do any research of Steve's RC's if there are no known people using it that is known?
Zinrod, all players submit a non-disclosure agreement - it's great if they adhere to it. Many of my players are on the forums, but just adhere to the agreements.
So what can we do? How about we sent a well known neutral person on the forums to do some testing?.. Wait a minute - it was already done: nolinks.roulettewars.com/ronjo.html (nolinks://nolinks.roulettewars.com/ronjo.html) - he even verified he got to know one of my partners (profit split) who verified the computer beats real casino conditions.
Or how about I conduct regular public demonstrations to groups? Hmm that's done too - even recordings are available.
The information everyone needs to know the truth is already available - it is all over the place.
Quote from: Zindrod on March 29, 2011, 03:36:12 AM
How can one do any research of Steve's RC's if there are no known people using it that is known?
There it goes again.
Quote from: ReDsQuaD on March 29, 2011, 07:46:36 PM
There it goes again.
OOppps! Let me guess, are you Steve's lawyer? Or are you just brown-nosing. I think it's clear. It's the latter.
No he is simply someone who has actually done their research. it's all there for you to see and think for yourself.
Quote from: Steve on March 30, 2011, 03:08:41 AM
No he is simply someone who has actually done their research and gets tired of people who dont do the same. You were asking questions that had answers that would be obvious to anyone who did proper research. This is not to offend you - it's simply the truth. Anyway that doesn't matter. What matters is the information available - it's all there for you to see and think for yourself.
Teribly sorry old chap but that is not reliable non-bias information. I could go and research communism and only read material supplied by Fidel Castro, I don't think my research would be very accurate. Like Redsquids for instance.
His logic is backwards so dont waste time and you need to do more research. Lets stop wasting time
Quote from: Steve on March 30, 2011, 05:00:57 AM
Well I just cant say anymore. Nobody can argue with someone that has screwed up logic. Your comments are just ridiculous and have no regard for the information available that makes truth clear. You didnt even have any clue what information was available, and when I point even a fragment of it out to you, you turn the other way. You sit there and make assumptions, stupid comments, fail to research, criticise others that DO research, then call them biased for actually doing their research all while believing incredibly biased negative information. Who knows what's wrong, but you have serious learning to do. You are either another person with a grudge which explains your twisted logic (my guess is jakk based on your ip - who also even thinks like you, and has your screwy logic), or just another lost soul that really doesn't know. Either way I dont care - stay how you are and stop wasting my time.
;D Funny how you immediately ran to IP addresses. Looks like it's true that anyone with an opinion other than yours isn't welcome. Well I have said my say. It also seems that you have more than one character on this forum. My guess is Redsquid is one among quite a few. Anyway doesn't really matter. I understand Pierre Basieux's new book says it all. I think I'll get one. Peace and love! :give_rose:
"you can make more friends in two minutes by being interested in them than you can in two weeks by trying to get them interested in you." - Dale Carnegie
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Quote from: Zindrod on March 30, 2011, 06:14:09 AM
It also seems that you have more than one character on this forum. My guess is Redsquid is one among quite a few.
You really are a bigger idiot than I thought you were. I can't even be botherd with you anymore, your not worth my time.
Zinrod (jakk/toxic), my last response:
1. I suspected it was you two again, and was right. When you both made stupid comments, they were easily debunked. It was not a personal matter.
2. I never have problem with "difference of opinion" or "criticism".
3. Pierre has never dealt with me and knows nothing.
You both criticise everyone at vls, then keep coming back under fake names. If it's such a terrible place, stop coming back.