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Title: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 10, 2011, 09:30:26 AM
I give you this special random row of a EC.

>R-Z-Z-R-R-Z-Z-R-Z-Z-Z-R-R-Z<

Try to find the algorithm.This sequence will fall once in 2^14=16384 on average spins There are more than 100 of these sequences with the same algorithm.

It is not only for high educated members.A challenge for puzzle gamers and members who see patterns in
sequences.

I am very curious who will find the key.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: gizmotron on April 10, 2011, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: schoenpoetser on April 10, 2011, 09:30:26 AM
I give you this special random row of a EC.

>R-Z-Z-R-R-Z-Z-R-Z-Z-Z-R-R-Z<

Try to find the algorithm.This sequence will fall once in 2^14=16384 on average spins There are more than 100 of these sequences with the same algorithm.

It is not only for high educated members.A challenge for puzzle gamers and members who see patterns in
sequences.

I am very curious who will find the key.

Sorry but there is no "algorithm" there. It's just a sequence. There is a pattern that repeats. It's R, single, R, double, R, single, R, double.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 11, 2011, 06:18:12 AM
Tha algorithm or a key create this sequence.Knowing the key the next result is EVEN.
The sequence is a special randomrow.
The next sequence is created with the same key and  has something special common with the first sequence.

> E-O-E-O-E-O-E-O-E-O-E-O-E-O <

NEXT REPLY ANOTHER CLUE
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 12, 2011, 05:41:42 AM
I give the next clue.You can see the key also as a bias.So I invite the bias watchers to find the BIAS.
Column  1/36 is  1.column 2/35 is 2 and column 1/34 is 3.
This gives the following sequence: > 3-1-2-1-3-2-1-3-2-3-2-3-1-2-

All three sequences have the same key and something special common.

For the winner a week in Las Vegas on own cost !!

The solution is much easier than find the Holy Grail.

Tomorrow another clue!
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: mr.ore on April 12, 2011, 02:15:36 PM
Just a question - the results algorithm produces is for roulette? I mean that it can at the same time produce results like
R/B E/O L/H d:1/2/3
R E L 1
B O L 2
B E H 3
...
?

What is Z? Is is that R is red and Z is the opposite of red? Or is it just two characters to represent even chance? It is not zero, of course, but then what is it?

You mean that the underlyng principle is same for all three examples, or are those results of one algorithm that generates several sequences at once?
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 13, 2011, 05:21:09 AM
Mr.ore you are right .I made a slovenliness.I am dutch and most I think in dutch.We  use ROOD and ZWART for RED and BLack. You should change the Z in B.

R E L 1 is number 12 or 18
B O L 2 is number 11 and 17

You are on the right way.

Cheese the three sequences  are real random rows What is your method to solve the problem.

The next clue is cryptical.On the table of the European roulette you can find a so called horserace track

If you think to have the answer and you will wait for the final solution you can pm me or send a email to >rouletteplayersclub@hotmail.nl<
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 14, 2011, 05:56:51 AM
There are more than 215 viewers. I think not anyone is trying to solve the puzzle.I ask the users of roulette tools and divices  are they a help to find the KEY
Next cryptic clue: Caissa will guide us to the finish.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 15, 2011, 05:45:35 AM
I played yesterday with success in my house casino.Sometimes I was the only player at the table and there was time enough for a interested talk with the dealers.I told them about this puzzle and they were also astonished about the special outcome.Thinking the row is unique ,I found  more such sequences.Here is another one with the same features.

B-R-R-R-B-B-R-B-B-B-B-R-B-B-B

The next cryptic clue is:The ball has no memory and no brains.

Steve you have a team of experts ,can they solve the puzzle?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: Breeze88 on April 15, 2011, 06:27:14 AM

here is what  i got thus far


3 6 9 12        1/36       RO BE RO RE   1
14 17 20 23  2/35       RE BO BE RO  2
1 4 7 10        1/34       RO BE RO BE  3


is your algo -- wheel based ?


well still puzzling  :pleasantry:


cheers
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 15, 2011, 09:58:14 AM
In the cryptic clues is hidden the way where you can find the key.Good luck and have pleasure.Perhaps there are more  puzzlegamers who will share their ideas.You should not be afraid you have to share the week in Las Vegas on own cost.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 16, 2011, 04:46:10 AM
Every day I am looking for another sign on the long way to the finish.A special feature of the row is,the EV for an European roulette is always 2,7.With other words the profit for the roulette is 2,7%.This is a very important clue.

If there is no algorithm,you may call me a cheater and put me after bars!!
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 16, 2011, 06:27:01 PM
The shoeshineboy was dreaming of a better life. Without any thought he counted the black and the brown shoes.
Suddenly he becomes a"AHA-Erlebnis". There was no row that repeated.The number of black and brown shoes were not the same.The sequence was not a fair random row.The Red and Black chances are equal.He decided to try out his idea in the casino.He waited for a long and bet Martigale.He had to wait too long for a trigger.Then a had another AHA-erlebnis.Instead of waiting for a long Red or Black row he used the last ten outcomes for betting.
The ShoeShineBoy principle was born.
What has this to do with the puzzle.?

I discovered that a long row never repeat.For the algorithm we are looking for, SSB is a Holy Grail.I have no mathematical evidence.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 18, 2011, 05:06:25 AM
There are more than 400 viewers.At least I expected  one or more hackers ,but till now no sign for a solution
Also no replies from the experts of the forum.Bombus where are you?
Perhaps in spite of my clues the puzzle is too difficult.

Now I give you the number row. 36-31-26-21-16-11-6-1-8-13-20-25-30-35
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: Mike on April 18, 2011, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: schoenpoetser on April 16, 2011, 06:27:01 PM
I discovered that a long row never repeat.For the algorithm we are looking for, SSB is a Holy Grail.I have no mathematical evidence.

Any long sequence is unlikely to repeat, but how does this help you to win?

If you have no mathematical evidence, how do you know SSB is a holy grail?
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 19, 2011, 04:54:18 AM
Mike it is a puzzle..Puzzles are a well-known tool to learn .They are used in the maths ,language etc..With this puzzle  you can learn something more about random rows and roulette systems.

You did not solve the algorithm I have used for this random row.I discovered new features of these special row ,I did not know before.

When I give the solution ,I shall also explain the cryptic clues.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: cheese on April 19, 2011, 05:16:14 AM
Quote from: schoenpoetser on April 19, 2011, 04:54:18 AM
Mike it is a puzzle..Puzzles are a well-known tool to learn .They are used in the maths ,language etc..With this puzzle  you can learn something more about random rows and roulette systems.

Oh oh.. Mike doesn't like puzzles, he likes to be told outright. If you don't, he gets really sarcastic and snooty.

You'll see.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: Arvis on April 19, 2011, 11:45:37 AM
Come on guys. . .

Don't you play chess.  How does a horse jump?

Nice one schoenpoetser.

Couldn't resist to reply :)
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 20, 2011, 05:15:53 AM
Arvis cordial congratulations.You have found the key.
Yes I started with  a horse jump on 36.
The row can also created by a roulette wheel or RNG.
The horse track clue pointed a horse could be involved.
Caissa is the lord of chess.
EV is 2,7  zero cannot fall with the horse jump.
The ball has no memory pointed crytic  there is no real roulette.

THe next clue should be :the answer lies on the table.

I was surprised ,the E/O sequence was E-O-E-O-E-O-etc. This could be a HG.

THANKS to all the members who have tried to find the solution.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: cheese on April 20, 2011, 06:43:25 AM
Quote from: schoenpoetser on April 20, 2011, 05:15:53 AM

The horse track clue pointed a horse could be involved.


Horse? You mean the knight piece? This whole thread is a mystery to me, either it goes over my head, or has no meaning. I vote for the latter..
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: Mike on April 20, 2011, 06:47:05 AM
There are literally an infinite number of "puzzles" you can dream up from roulette outcomes, but none of them will help you to win because all patterns are equally likely.

People are endlessly fascinated by the possibilities in roulette, but this is a trap. In reality there are no possibilities which lead to genuine opportunities. Playing the GAME is like buying stock at $1 and selling for 95c - it doesn't matter how you pick your buyers, the outcome is a guaranteed loss.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: cheese on April 20, 2011, 07:12:45 AM
Quote from: Mike on April 20, 2011, 06:47:05 AM
In reality there are no possibilities which lead to genuine opportunities.

Playing the game as its laid out, thats true. Everybody plays random bet selections against random outcomes, which is a double whammy. Or they make up silly rules for something not governed by rules. Or try and trick it with long progressions. Understanding the game is like understanding a coin flip, random is whats important.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: somegames on April 24, 2011, 01:16:48 AM
schoenpoetser , how can this thread make shoeshineboy a better system ? Please reveal more, thanks
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: schoenpoetser on April 24, 2011, 08:58:25 AM
Somegames I did not write this row can SSB make better. In my excelprogram of the ssb I use a random row of 10 spins. After every hit a new random row is used.It is not necessary to use a random row.After every hit you can start with the same row.I suggested that the special row of the puzzle can also be the basic row of SSB,but it is more difficult to program it.
Title: Re: Who can solve the algorith of these random row?
Post by: somegames on April 24, 2011, 11:51:04 AM
schoenpoetser, thanks for your prompt reply and clarification, SSB is a great way to win the RNG, I've been using it for some months since I found it in rouletteforum.  net .   I usually start betting after 4 or 5 virtual losses, in order to lower the risk of busting.