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Title: The Matrix.
Post by: John Gold on April 10, 2011, 12:57:39 PM
(Inspired by J/L.)


Here is an idea I had for a  matrix type bet.

1 = 1A. (The 1 represents the first dozen and the A represents the first column.)
2 = 1B. (The 1 represents the first dozen and the B represents the second column.)
3 = 1C. (The 1 represents the first dozen and the C represents the third column.)
4 = 1A.
5 = 1B.
6 = 1C.
7 = 1A.
8 = 1B.
9 = 1C.
10 = 1A.
11 = 1B.
12 = 1C.
13 = 2A. (The 2 represents the second dozen and the A represents the first column.)
14 = 2B. (The 2 represents the second dozen and the B represents the second column.)
15 = 2C. (The 2 represents the second dozen and the C represents the third column.)
16 = 2A.
17 = 2B.
18 = 2C.
19 = 2A.
20 = 2B.
21 = 2C.
22 = 2A.
23 = 2B.
24 = 2C.
25 = 3A. (The 3 represents the third dozen and the A represents the first column.)
26 = 3B. (The 3 represents the third dozen and the B represents the second column.)
27 = 3C. (The 3 represents the third dozen and the C represents the third column.)
28 = 3A.
29 = 3B.
30 = 3C.
31 = 3A.
32 = 3B.
33 = 3C.
34 = 3A.
35 = 3B.
36 = 3C.

Here are some numbers I recorded from my session at the casino earlier this afternoon.

25
2
2
6
16
16
22
6
16
9
15
10
21
35
13
6
7
25
25
35
15
11
7
10
23
11
15
32
32
1
14
32
7
12
11
19
19
3
23
24
6
3
17
3
18
7
32
35

Now using my chart from above, let's feed them into a matrix and see what happens.

3A  1B  1B  1C
2A  2A  2A  1C
2A  1C  2C  1A
2C  3B  2A  1C
1A  3A  3A  3B
2C  1B  1A  1A
2B  1B  2C  3B
3B  1A  2B  3B
1A  1C  1B  2A
2A  1C  2B  2C
1C  1C  2B  1C
2C  1A  3B  3B

So there you have it.

If you go to the second line in the matrix and read across, you will see 2A 2A 2A.
Now here is where I would look for the 2A to break.
That would require me to play the following numbers.
2/3, 5/6, 8/9, 11/12, 26/27, 29/30, 32/33, 35/36. That comes to 8 splits.
You will find all the possible bets for this method will come to 8 splits.

That bet would have won because after 2A 2A 2A, you will see that 1C arrived.

The only other bet in the matrix was in the second column going down vertical.
You will see 1C 1C 1C.
I would look for the 1C to break.
That would require me to play the following numbers.
13/14, 16/17, 19/20, 22/23, 25/26, 28/29, 31/32, 34/35. Once again, only 8 splits.

That bet would also have won because after 1C 1C 1C, you will see that 1A arrived.

I like this bet because the outlay is not too much. You could use a progression if you wanted. Also you are looking for a combination of a dozen AND a column together to keep repeating to defeat you.

Play after the third repeat (as shown in the examples above) and if it does not win, wait for another three of the same kind to appear and try again. Because you are only betting 8 splits, you should be able to stretch some kind of betting progression to allow this to be almost unbreakable.

I thought of this idea well doing my shopping early this morning when deciding between bananas or oranges. It just shows you my mind is pretty screwed up, lol.

Good luck.

p.s. It is also probably a good idea to cover the zero with a chip just in case.

Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: beretta28 on April 10, 2011, 01:16:40 PM
Interesting
What about the costruction of your matrix?
First decision,OK,than you go horizontal or vertical?How many decisons Horiz and  Vert,(4,5,6??),before continuing with the second line?
How are the columns  of your matrix long?
Thanks

Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: hb5810 on April 10, 2011, 01:39:34 PM
Did you have good winning sessions with this strategy.  Also what progression you're using?
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: John Gold on April 10, 2011, 02:26:15 PM
I will spend a few days doing some testing with this and come back with the results.

It is pretty much an open book at the moment. I just thought I would share the concept with you guys.

Feel free to post any tweaks or tests that you may do in the meantime.

cheers.

In the limited testing that I did do, I never went past step 1. I am yet to see something come up 4 times consecutively.
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: libertydog on April 10, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Thanks John Gold, nice idea! What I have noticed in your casino results is the amount of vertical repeats of either 1,2,3 or A,B,C.... usually catches 1 of them in a line or somtimes both:

3A  1B  1B  1C
2A  2A  2A  1C
2A  1C  2C  1A
2C  3B  2A  1C
1A  3A  3A  3B
2C  1B  1A  1A
2B  1B  2C  3B
3B  1A  2B  3B
1A  1C  1B  2A
2A  1C  2B  2C
1C  1C  2B  1C
2C  1A  3B  3B

From that It may be possible to bet on the single dozen/column to catch the repeat, should be a lot of wins there  :biggrin:
 
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: libertydog on April 10, 2011, 05:43:58 PM
Just flat betting 1,1,1,1 every line for the repeat came out like this:

3A  1B  1B  1C 
2A  2A  2A  1C  +1 
2A  1C  2C  1A  +5 
2C  3B  2A  1C  +6 
1A  3A  3A  3B  +4 
2C  1B  1A  1A  -1
2B  1B  2C  3B   0
3B  1A  2B  3B  +7
1A  1C  1B  2A  +5
2A  1C  2B  2C  +12
1C  1C  2B  1C +19
2C  1A  3B  3B  +20
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: Pedro on April 15, 2011, 08:54:37 PM
 John,

How is this going ?

Many thanks for sharing .

Cheers Pedro
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: Kimo Li on April 17, 2011, 04:12:34 PM
Matrix Form

1A   1B   1C            
                  
01   02   03      1A   1B   1C
04   05   06      1A   1B   1C
07   08   09      1A   1B   1C
10   11   12      1A   1B   1C
                  
                  
2A   2B   2C            
                  
13   14   15      2A   2B   2C
16   17   18      2A   2B   2C
19   20   21      2A   2B   2C
22   23   24      2A   2B   2C
                  
                  
3A   3B   3C            
                  
25   26   27      3A   3B   3C
28   29   30      3A   3B   3C
31   32   33      3A   3B   3C
34   35   36      3A   3B   3C
                  
                  
                  
                  
1C      03   06   09   12   
1B      02   05   08   11   
1A      01   04   07   10   
                  
2C      15   18   21   24   
2B      14   17   20   23   
2A      13   16   19   22   
                  
3C      27   30   33   36   
3B      26   29   32   35   
3A      25   28   31   34   
                  
                  
                  
1A      01   04   07   10   
2A      13   16   19   22   
3A      25   28   31   34   
                  
1B      02   05   08   11   
2B      14   17   20   23   
3B      26   29   32   35   
                  
1C      03   06   09   12   
2C      15   18   21   24   
3C      27   30   33   36   
                  
                  
                  
   1A   1B   1C         
   2A   2B   2C         
   3A   3B   3C         
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: jrhelp007 on April 24, 2011, 12:44:44 AM
Quote from: libertydog on April 10, 2011, 05:43:58 PM
Just flat betting 1,1,1,1 every line for the repeat came out like this:

3A  1B  1B  1C 
2A  2A  2A  1C  +1 
2A  1C  2C  1A  +5 
2C  3B  2A  1C  +6 
1A  3A  3A  3B  +4 
2C  1B  1A  1A  -1
2B  1B  2C  3B   0
3B  1A  2B  3B  +7
1A  1C  1B  2A  +5
2A  1C  2B  2C  +12
1C  1C  2B  1C +19
2C  1A  3B  3B  +20

libertydog,

Please explain the bet on each horizontal line. Did you use pairs? can you provide an example with numbers.

Thanks,

John

Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: nusantara on April 24, 2011, 05:28:18 AM
after 1c 1c 1c - 1a would have been a loser for you jg ?  or have I miss understood something.   Interesting angle all the same
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: Jeromin on April 24, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
Quote from: John Gold on April 10, 2011, 02:26:15 PM

In the limited testing that I did do, I never went past step 1. I am yet to see something come up 4 times consecutively.

In my mind that translates as a conservative, 1 1 2 progression. risking only 4 u against a 7 in a row event, profiting only on the first step, recovering on 2nd and 3rd.
And as with any progression, I'd insure the zero.
Very interesting, worth testing.

Jeromin
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: jrhelp007 on April 24, 2011, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: John Gold on April 10, 2011, 12:57:39 PM
(Inspired by J/L.)


Here is an idea I had for a  matrix type bet.

1 = 1A. (The 1 represents the first dozen and the A represents the first column.)
2 = 1B. (The 1 represents the first dozen and the B represents the second column.)
3 = 1C. (The 1 represents the first dozen and the C represents the third column.)
4 = 1A.
5 = 1B.
6 = 1C.
7 = 1A.
8 = 1B.
9 = 1C.
10 = 1A.
11 = 1B.
12 = 1C.
13 = 2A. (The 2 represents the second dozen and the A represents the first column.)
14 = 2B. (The 2 represents the second dozen and the B represents the second column.)
15 = 2C. (The 2 represents the second dozen and the C represents the third column.)
16 = 2A.
17 = 2B.
18 = 2C.
19 = 2A.
20 = 2B.
21 = 2C.
22 = 2A.
23 = 2B.
24 = 2C.
25 = 3A. (The 3 represents the third dozen and the A represents the first column.)
26 = 3B. (The 3 represents the third dozen and the B represents the second column.)
27 = 3C. (The 3 represents the third dozen and the C represents the third column.)
28 = 3A.
29 = 3B.
30 = 3C.
31 = 3A.
32 = 3B.
33 = 3C.
34 = 3A.
35 = 3B.
36 = 3C.

Here are some numbers I recorded from my session at the casino earlier this afternoon.

25
2
2
6
16
16
22
6
16
9
15
10
21
35
13
6
7
25
25
35
15
11
7
10
23
11
15
32
32
1
14
32
7
12
11
19
19
3
23
24
6
3
17
3
18
7
32
35

Now using my chart from above, let's feed them into a matrix and see what happens.

3A  1B  1B  1C
2A  2A  2A  1C
2A  1C  2C  1A
2C  3B  2A  1C
1A  3A  3A  3B
2C  1B  1A  1A
2B  1B  2C  3B
3B  1A  2B  3B
1A  1C  1B  2A
2A  1C  2B  2C
1C  1C  2B  1C
2C  1A  3B  3B

So there you have it.

If you go to the second line in the matrix and read across, you will see 2A 2A 2A.
Now here is where I would look for the 2A to break.
That would require me to play the following numbers.
2/3, 5/6, 8/9, 11/12, 26/27, 29/30, 32/33, 35/36. That comes to 8 splits.
You will find all the possible bets for this method will come to 8 splits.

That bet would have won because after 2A 2A 2A, you will see that 1C arrived.

The only other bet in the matrix was in the second column going down vertical.
You will see 1C 1C 1C.
I would look for the 1C to break.
That would require me to play the following numbers.
13/14, 16/17, 19/20, 22/23, 25/26, 28/29, 31/32, 34/35. Once again, only 8 splits.

That bet would also have won because after 1C 1C 1C, you will see that 1A arrived.

I like this bet because the outlay is not too much. You could use a progression if you wanted. Also you are looking for a combination of a dozen AND a column together to keep repeating to defeat you.

Play after the third repeat (as shown in the examples above) and if it does not win, wait for another three of the same kind to appear and try again. Because you are only betting 8 splits, you should be able to stretch some kind of betting progression to allow this to be almost unbreakable.

I thought of this idea well doing my shopping early this morning when deciding between bananas or oranges. It just shows you my mind is pretty screwed up, lol.

Good luck.

p.s. It is also probably a good idea to cover the zero with a chip just in case.



You probably forgot about "SLEEPERS". It is possible in your first example, your first case 2A 2A 2A,  to get several hits on the second dozen while your bets are on split numbers associated with first and third dozens.

Please explain what step do you take, progression? I have seen repeat of a dozen more than 22 times. No kidding...

Thanks,

John
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: jrhelp007 on April 24, 2011, 01:19:30 PM
Thank you for your system.

Here is some observation that has been excluded from your system:

In the majority of the time it will take a substantial amount of spins while the matrix is being build. The key is to get 3 alike before establish a bet.

Using a single zero roulette, by the time I got an entry to bet it took about 56 spins where I already experienced 4 times the number zero. While building the matrix and get spins going, I place 1 unit bet on Red and 1 on Black. So basically with the experience of getting 4 times the zero number I started my bet with a negative 8 units taken from my overall bankroll.

John
Title: Re: The Matrix.
Post by: Jeromin on April 25, 2011, 08:17:44 AM
Quote from: jrhelp007 on April 24, 2011, 01:19:30 PM
While building the matrix and get spins going, I place 1 unit bet on Red and 1 on Black. So basically with the experience of getting 4 times the zero number I started my bet with a negative 8 units taken from my overall bankroll.

John


What I do to stay logged on is bet the minimum ( say 50 cents in bet365 or DB) on the last number. One repeat in 36 spins and you break even, hardly unusual. Worst case scenario,  about 15 to 20 euro loss till I can bet. Then, when the opportunity comes, I bet 25/50 euro per dozen/column. Basically, at best you've made a couple of units, at worst you've lost a couple of units. If the system is any good, I've recovered them in a couple of spins.

Jeromin