Hi chaps,just looking for your opinion wheather or not it may be worth entering my strategey to steves $100,000 challenge. Here is a graph for 800,000 spins. Look forward to your opinions.
have done another test only 100,000 spins as it takes about 2 hours for 800,000. it has passed the 800,000 spins all 3 times i have tried it but didnt save results.
Is this a 30 step martingale? ;D
no,my next graph is nearly finished will post it soon. another 8000000 spins. Have you any peronal views on the graphs so far weather it could hold up to steves challenge?
83% there now
4th 8000000 spin test for steves $100000 challenged passed. Here is the graph. Not perfect but 4th in a row. Do you chaps think it might be worth a bash,just worried about solicitors fees and losing a grand i cant afford. Look forward to you r comments. Cheers chaps
How many placed bets are there? You know - you have to place a million bets to win, also remember to use common table limits in B&M casino. Actually you want to win at least 30k units and then flat bet even chance with one unit : 1000000/37=27027.027 and if you have that won, then after a million spins you should still be in profit, even if it is only one unit. Your best option is probably to bet max. unit on a number to reach that, or combine several bets if there is a limit on a location but it is less than table limit, then you should compute if your expected value of losing 1000AUD vs winning 100000AUD is positive...
thanks mr ore,max bet 500,full 8000000 bets placed
Last test tonight guys,ends up positive again after 800,000 spin test
Is it 800,000 bets placed, or 800,000 spins wagered on?
Also is that a $10,000,000 bankroll needed? You also need to consider realistic betting limits at the table. Unless you do, it could never be used for real which is in the terms. the $100,000 offer is more an offer to purchase than a challenge. Definitely interested either way, this thead is being watched.
No this high bankroll is definetly not needed,ill do some more tommorrow with less bankroll.I have placed a bet on each and every one of the 800,000 spins.Cheers Steve.
No probs, will watch this thread with interest. Let me know directly if you are confident to proceed. If you havent already, please carefully read the general terms at nolinks.genuinewinner.com/100k.html (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/100k.html) which again are basically an offer to buy the holy grail that will work under real casino conditions.
Ok Steve ,will post again tommorow after work,o dear got to leave for work in 4 hours.Gnight all.
Quote from: chippy on May 30, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
4th 8000000 spin test for steves $100000 challenged passed. Here is the graph. Not perfect but 4th in a row. Do you chaps think it might be worth a bash,just worried about solicitors fees and losing a grand I cant afford. Look forward to you r comments. Cheers chaps
If i was in your position, i would gladly risk $1000 to make $100,000. It's just a no brainer.
Quote from: chippy on May 30, 2011, 10:14:57 PM
No this high bankroll is definetly not needed,ill do some more tommorrow with less bankroll.I have placed a bet on each and every one of the 800,000 spins.Cheers Steve.
Looking at your second graph, there's a downward spike of approximately 8,000 units. I would call that a large bankroll, and keep in mind that the loss could have occurred right from the first spin.
Very cool charts.
The best I succeed with was to pass 1.000.000 using a 12 fibo progression playing the even money bets.
After 800.000 it tank - but the net gain was still positive and start to increase again.
still here worked late tonight but still carry on testing tommorow.
Quote from: Mike on May 31, 2011, 04:42:54 AM
Looking at your second graph, there's a downward spike of approximately 8,000 units. I would call that a large bankroll, and keep in mind that the loss could have occurred right from the first spin.
There's another downspike of almost 12k units, too.
yes this is a concern.will try to adjust to see if i can reduce these downspikes.cheers.
first, if your drawdownon in 800,000 spins is equal to earned money after 800,000 spins i had never(...) seen such a bad system.
second steve is challenging that 100,000 dollars ??? WHAT ? LAUGHING LOUDLY. first, if it is challenge i am risking my 100,000 for what for another 100,000 which can i win in casino and also i am loosing my holy grail and giving it to him ? what ?
interesting but not for me ;-))
No Syntax, the challenge is more like an offer to BUY the holy grail, for $100,000. It is not a bet, and it is dead serious.
if this is not a bet thats OK i once called you but there was answering machine i try to call at thursday hope i will have more luck, you know...
If you cant get thru on a thursday, i'm just on another call (unless otherwise specified on my schedule page). If you have skype its better, as you can message me even when I'm on other calls so I know you're trying to reach me
I returned to forum, just because this thread :), because it looks promising. if somebody prove his HG method...i will be truly happy, i don't need to have it... KEEP IT UP GUYS, I WISH YOU MIRACLE ! :thumbsup:
"No probs, will watch this thread with interest. Let me know directly if you are confident to proceed. If you havent already, please carefully read the general terms at nolinks. genuinewinner. com/100k. html which again are basically an offer to buy the holy grail that will work under real casino conditions. "
Hi Steve
Hope it's okay to ask a question I have here in this thread.
I went to the link you provided above and scanned over it. I read the following under *Notes* :
•The challenge only applies to RNG (random number generator) spins, not spins from a physical wheel. We already know very well real wheels are beatable.
You guys already know very well that real wheels are beatable, but my question is do you have the holy grail for the real wheel which is different from knowing that real wheels are beatable. Curious. Thanks for your time.
If your definition is a method that will beat every real wheel no problems, NO I dont have that. Not referring to the roulette computers, what I have is an approach (software, techniques, combination of things) that works for roughly half of the wheels and conditions around. With traditional "advantage play", the methods will work for a fraction of this (perhaps 1 in 15 wheels).
If your next question is why we I'm not doing it myself (very common question), I AM. I played well over 15 years but now mostly manage partners/private teams. Things are moving very fast and recently updated arrangements at nolinks.roulettecomputers.com/partners.html (nolinks://nolinks.roulettecomputers.com/partners.html) and a lot more developments/technology being developed.
Yes, that sums up my definition - a method that beats every real wheel no problem. Thanks for your answer.
I didn't have a next question at this time, but cool.
Fyi: The holy grail for the real wheel does exist.
I'm sure it does exist. But there are enough opportunities around (currently) for existing technology.
My HG is the next strategy.
Note red end black. Wait till the number of Red minus the number of Black is + 15 or -15. If +15 put one unit on Black till R-B =0. If -15 put 1 unit on Red till R-B =0. I guarantee a profit but the profit will be very poor.
Quote from: schoenpoetser on October 14, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
My HG is the next strategy.
Note red end black. Wait till the number of Red minus the number of Black is + 15 or -15. If +15 put one unit on Black till R-B =0. If -15 put 1 unit on Red till R-B =0. I guarantee a profit but the profit will be very poor.
You can not guarantee a profit.
You can have a disparity in the even chances of hundreds or even thousands or more. Assuming they do even out eventually, which is not a guarantee anyway, the zero's will eat any small profit you would attain anyway.
I have tested this concept and many variations on RNG numbers of non zero roulette wheel, with no house edge. Since everything is 50/50 you always have a 50% chance to be positive at the end of a session, and a 50% chance to be negative at the end of a sample. Imspirit has run simulations and has found that it is possible for a perfectly fair coin to go ahead and stay ahead of the other coin for BILLIONS of coin flips. There is no guarantee it will ever even out.