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Title: Me Against The Losers
Post by: money13 on June 08, 2011, 09:39:52 AM
I think if I read all data of this web site and do not do it I will be continuous winner, doesnt it ?
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: Kagatori on June 08, 2011, 09:48:59 AM
Sorry could you re phrase that please?
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: John Gold on June 08, 2011, 09:56:33 AM
lol, there is a thought. Unfortunately, a really bad losing system will one day turn into a really good winning system and vice versa. If you can work out when all of this will happen, you have the game in your pocket.

Someone on another forum told of a system betting 3 units on 1-18 and 2 units on the third dozen.
A test showed that it only lost 36 units in over 200,000 spins. The biggest drawdown was around 500 units.
So if you played 100 spins a day times 7 days a week for around 7 years, you would have only lost 36 units. Not bad for the entertainment value alone. Not to mention all the freebies you could pick up.
On saying that, someone else could have maybe suffered worse. You just never really know.
I was kind of thinking earlier after answering Mr J's question in his thread that if you could just a find a system betting one number, it may be the answer. But after looking at them test results where you may only lose 36 units in 7 years by betting 30 numbers, I am not so sure, lol. I still think it all comes down to timing. When to bet and when not to bet.
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: simon on June 08, 2011, 10:12:57 AM
Quote from: money13 on June 08, 2011, 09:39:52 AM
I think if I read all data of this web site and do not do it I will be continuous winner, doesn't it ?

............. you will get the same results if you bet against the systems or with the systems because you are facing the exact same negative expectation on every single spin no matter when you bet, how much you bet, or where you place your chips (because roulette is a game with replacement, so everything stays the same every spin) and the sum total of all your bets will have the same expectation (which is a long ago proven theorem of applied mathematics.)   but you can believe otherwise and keep trying different systems...  maybe one will work out for one reason or other (at least when you are the one playing it.)  some say the best bet is to make one big bet one time and never play again.  it worked out for the Englishman who bet his life savings on red (or black-- I forget which), but I would never do that and I think it was a very stupid thing to do (especially because he didn't even use a single zero wheel, I don't think.  I believe it's all on youtube.)  ofcourse if you have eyes and brain like Superman and can quickly calculate and predict where the ball will land after it's thrown, that would be a good.
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: money13 on June 08, 2011, 10:50:48 AM
John Gold thank you very mutch for your post. Simon I am wonder how arent you give up playing roulette and surfing the formus with your thinkin. You are the greatest skeptic and pisimist over the vls forum  :good:
I make money countinuously from roulette can you belive that but I am not millionire and dont think I will be for one year how mention W3M . . . For me roulette is way for good money but not to be wealth ...  :diablo:
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: simon on June 08, 2011, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: money13 on June 08, 2011, 10:50:48 AM
John Gold thank you very mutch for your post. Simon I am wonder how arent you give up playing roulette and surfing the formus with your thinkin. You are the greatest skeptic and pisimist over the vls forum  :good:
I make money countinuously from roulette can you belive that but I am not millionire and dont think I will be for one year how mention W3M . . . For me roulette is way for good money but not to be wealth ...  :diablo:

I thought you were asking a valid question and thought I would give you a valid answer.  Your reply here speaks for itself.  In fact it speaks volumes.  Go play the W3M bet-- I'm sure you'll be a millionaire in no time.
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: Far-Q on June 08, 2011, 11:14:44 AM
Quote from: money13 on June 08, 2011, 10:50:48 AM
how mention W3M . . .

oh-oh    ....here comes the censorship!!
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: money13 on June 08, 2011, 11:35:44 AM
Simon I dont understand very well your English or just you so excuse me if I have hurt you.
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: money13 on June 08, 2011, 11:36:27 AM
Quote from: Far-Q on June 08, 2011, 11:14:44 AM
 

oh-oh    ....here comes the censorship!!
What do you mean dude ?
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: John Gold on June 08, 2011, 04:11:24 PM
One thing I should clear up about the 200,000 spin test I talked about in my earlier post.
This was on a non-zero wheel which you will find at betvoyager, I have never seen a live wheel with no zero.

On a single zero wheel, the loss would have went from -36 units to about -25,000 units if the zero behaved according to probability.
God save you if you were playing a double zero wheel! :whistle:

I thought those results were too good to be true playing a continuous bet. And with no zero, it still lost!
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: Far-Q on June 08, 2011, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: money13 on June 08, 2011, 11:36:27 AM
What do you mean dude ?

W3M isnt a phrase thats met with reverence here ....by the man.....(or am I getting confused with another forum)??
Anyway I cant care less...
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: money13 on June 08, 2011, 05:37:38 PM
Quote from: John Gold on June 08, 2011, 04:11:24 PM
One thing I should clear up about the 200,000 spin test I talked about in my earlier post.
This was on a non-zero wheel which you will find at betvoyager, I have never seen a live wheel with no zero.

On a single zero wheel, the loss would have went from -36 units to about -25,000 units if the zero behaved according to probability.
God save you if you were playing a double zero wheel! :whistle:

I thought those results were too good to be true playing a continuous bet. And with no zero, it still lost!

LolZz
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: money13 on June 08, 2011, 05:51:52 PM
I dont care how mutch zeros just joy their advantage  >:D
Title: Re: Me Against The Losers
Post by: simon on June 09, 2011, 09:24:50 AM
Quote from: money13 on June 08, 2011, 05:51:52 PM
I dont care how mutch zeros just joy their advantage  >:D

.......... ok, uh huh, glad we got that strait.