Hello everyone. This probably isn't the most orthodox post on here but I am going to give it a go. I have had a massive brainwave to design a system that we can all use. The full version will be posted on here in Excel form on completion. The system will use a lot of spins though therefore will be used online. (At this point I can already hear the nay sayers :P)
I need a little help though. All I need from you guys, or just one of you, is to run 10, 000 Auto Spins on Roulette Xtreme. Note the first number that comes up. Then count how many spins it takes for it to spin in again. This will be a hypothetical win. Then note the next number after a win. Count how many spins it takes for the new number to appear again. This will also be a win. Do this as many times as you can.
What I am looking for is the highest number of spins it takes for a win. I hope I am making sense. With this information I have a great idea based on some thought provoking points I have read on these forums.
Thank you to anyone who helps me out. You will receive credit for the final version. And my kudos of the highest standard :)
*Note to the moderator. Hello to you sir! I realise at this stage I haven't posted a "Full Roulette System". But there will be one posted here eventually. I hope I am okay to post here. I really think I am on to something.
Hello,
I ran 2 115 spins from RX. Actual Wiesbaden spins, not RNG. Dont know if it makes a difference to you or not.
Here are the interval between hits as you asked:
10
20
45
76
43
104
2
6
49
43
11
25
26
66
71
68
39
116
3
20
41
12
13
19
4
57
15
35
10
16
11
6
51
37
138
3
40
39
9
20
8
1
4
3
76
17
22
33
39
29
96
3
3
23
27
41
47
50
19
47
51
This a strart. Can you give us an idea of what you have in mind?
Insider
Excellent. Thank you for your contrubution. I officially grant you dibs of the system when it is finished ;) I can't quite explain what I'm onto yet, for fear of failure. I can tell you however, that I have outlasted 3506 spins without going broke. One statistic that did scare me was that I was 97. 5% close to being broke. Then a win came in. I will post my results when I get to 10, 000 spins.
The details I can give you are that I'm modifying a progression that was posted on here. And also I have created a trigger, giving the system some structure. All will become clear when I have finished testing.
The only down side so far is that in the 3506 spins, I have only made 40% profit on top of my investment. But right now I don't care. If this is what it takes to survive the online roulette wheel then so be it :P
Don't get me wrong, I am fully aware I have to be rational about this. I am not getting my hopes up. On the other hand I believe I am making progress.
I will post my data as soon as I am done.
Hello again,
The only thing I can tell you is that you cannot rely on progression to make you win on the long run. Progressions will ALWAYS catch up to you...
Insider
They will? Dammit. I might very well continue testing though. It's so simple but it works. But as you were touching on, if something were to go wrong, the losses would be catastrophic. We buy in with a bankroll and bet small. But it only takes that one time right?
I'll continue testing and see what happens anyway. It would be a shame to throw it away now if it stands a chance of a little success. At least we'll know either way. Thanks again for helping me out Insider. Maybe I'll post what I have so far and you can give me some feedback?
Waiting to hear from you again. Sounds like your method is "out of the box", and that is what I like to look at.
Going back to the progression discussion, it is quite normal for ANY method to win after 3,000 spins when you use a progression. So just don t get your hopes up because of the short term wins.... If you really want to know if it is any good, see if it wins on a flat bet basis. Most people here will tell you this is impossible, unless you use a VB method. Quite frankly, I am yet to see such a method myself. Does not mean it cannot be done. Just have not seen it yet. One thing for 100% sure: it has to be something that is really different from the usual newbie stuff.
Insider
G'day,
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Progressions will ALWAYS catch up to you...
Not true.
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Does not mean it cannot be done. Just have not seen it yet. One thing for 100% sure:
it has to be something that is really different from the usual newbie stuff.
Now that sounds realistic to me!!
Kind Regards,
Glenn.
Minnibaccarat,
Prove me wrong ... please!
I wonder if we can keep a progression from catching up with us by
1.Having a huge bankroll and
2.Having very high table limits (example BV has 1:150,000)
Bird,
Under those circumstances, you could last a very long time, obviously. But tell me how you would feel if you were down 56 786 units already and had to put, say 36 654 units on the next spin??? You would literally need balls of steel when the ball is spinning cos I can assure you they would splatter all over the floor otherwise. (Remember: each spin is independant).
Insibet
PS To make a few units, is it worth the hearth attack?
Progressions and MM ALONE won't work (in my opinion), but if you can find a way of choosing your bets which keeps the progression in hand until the necessary wins arrive, then you've cracked it. The maths says NOTHING can work, so forget about it if you're serious. USE the maths available to you (by that I mean various statistics) and don't buy the whole negative expectation thing. It's not only not true, but the claims of the mathboyz are quite illogical. ;)
@ Glenn, I've sent you a pm.
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Bird,
Under those circumstances, you could last a very long time, obviously. But tell me how you would feel if you were down 56 786 units already and had to put, say 36 654 units on the next spin??? You would literally need balls of steel when the ball is spinning cos I can assure you they would splatter all over the floor otherwise. (Remember: each spin is independant).
Insibet
PS To make a few units, is it worth the hearth attack?
Yes I hear you. Keep in mind, however, that I'm talking .01 units, so 56,786.00 is really 567.86, which of course is still an insane amount to bet in order to make .01 or even 10.00. I'm learning to code RX right now in the high hopes that I can run something for 12 million spins that never busts; in other words, a sure thing. The idea is to then have a bot play it and skip the heart attack.
Sam
Birdie,
I have no coding skills whatsoever. I have been asking around to see if someone could code ''The Cauldron''. The author says he wins after over 20 000 spins. Anyway, look it up. If you really want to code something that looks interesting, look that one up.
Insidebet.
PS I have played the Cauldron a few times for real money and I am up a bit. Doesn t really mean sweet nothing...
The results of every long run test are predictable.I have compute the average of the sequence.The result is 33.
The mathematical average is 37. If the test is much longer the result will grow to 37 and stay between small boarders.
Think I know what this system is already. . . spin, what ever number comes up play virtual until it shows again then bet the next number out straight after incurring progression until win?
progression something like this. .
A straight-up single number bet progression.
The progression is as follows;
(Sp)(bet)
30-1
20-2
10-3
10-4
10-6
10-8
10-11
10-15
10-21
10-29
10-40
10-55
10-76
10-105
10-145
10-202
10-280
progression requires a 10,070 unit BR
I figured this is what your aiming for, if you are imo don't bother, especially since max you acquired was +40% bankroll and you have come so close to losing the lot. .