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Title: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on January 24, 2012, 03:09:07 AM
I look at the last 20 spins on a roulette wheel and then what ever was the last number i would bet on the number and the 5 numbers next to it.   I only bring a bankroll of $200 and keep the bets at $5  number and always leave with $500+.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Juiced91 on January 24, 2012, 05:15:34 AM
As in the 1st number of the 20 spins or the last number? i. e.  the last spin that just passed.  If so whats the point of looking at the previous 20?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on January 24, 2012, 05:49:07 AM
No the last number that passed 20 spins ago i would be on that section of the board.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: tomwi11is on January 24, 2012, 06:52:54 AM
I dont understand this explanation.   Can you try again please ?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on January 24, 2012, 06:55:46 AM
ok for example say the last 20 numbers were 1 12 14 32 35 25 24 18 33 4 21 0 5 10 16 31 18 27 30 [36] I would follow 36 and the 5 numbers infront of 36
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: tomwi11is on January 24, 2012, 06:59:11 AM
So what is the point of tracking the previous 19 numbers ?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Allin on January 24, 2012, 07:04:51 AM
When dealer change, do you still continue? in my town dealer change every 30 min.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on January 24, 2012, 07:05:04 AM
im not saying to track the previous numbers lol they are already on the screen i just follow the 20th number and the section of the board of that number and have been up over 50 times in the casino so far.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on January 24, 2012, 07:05:57 AM
i dont use a dealer just electronic cause that always repeats sectors after 20 spins at the casino i play at.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: tomwi11is on January 24, 2012, 07:08:52 AM
Do you use a progression ?  What if you dont win on your first bet, do you flat bet for so many spins ?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Allin on January 24, 2012, 07:14:06 AM
What if there is a repeat in last 5 numbers. Its easy to code this against random.org
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on January 24, 2012, 07:17:25 AM
if it doesnt hit i move onto the other 20th number and keep moving up 5 numbers clockwise
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Proofreaders2K on January 24, 2012, 10:52:56 AM
Works well  :)   Dealer change you've got to start over tracking though.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: tomwi11is on January 24, 2012, 11:57:25 AM
Which casino do you play this at.   Do you play online with live wheels ?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: tonynewlife on January 24, 2012, 04:50:24 PM
I still don't get your system, can u give us an example with real numbers?  you said the 5 numbers next to it and then you said the 5 numbers in from of it so that was a little confusing, what are those 5 numbers exactly, where are they located?

thank you in advance!

tony
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on January 24, 2012, 06:48:38 PM
say the 20th number was 13 i would bet on 13 36 11  30 8 and if the other number before 13 were to be 33 i would then follow  33 1 20 14 31
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: bombus on January 25, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
Quote from: masso123 on January 24, 2012, 07:05:57 AM
I dont use a dealer just electronic cause that always repeats sectors after 20 spins at the casino I play at.

So are you playing computerised rng on a specific machine in your casino?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Ulysses on January 26, 2012, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: bombus on January 25, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
So are you playing computerised rng on a specific machine in your casino?

Doesn't really matter if your playing a machine or live IMO. Repeats are are a natural effect of roulette, as the range of numbers is always limited to 37 possible outcomes. Which is a small enough range to have this repeating effect . Whether or not you can predict which number will repeat. Strategies like OP's are fairly good at finding those repeats.




Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: iggiv on January 26, 2012, 06:35:06 PM
what is OP? thanx
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: superman on January 26, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Quotewhat is OP

Original Poster, the guy that started the thread usually
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Amazin on January 28, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
anyone have Roulette extreme can test this easily with real numbers.

Unfortunately I don't have it
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Gaza001 on January 29, 2012, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: Amazin on January 28, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
anyone have Roulette extreme can test this easily with real numbers.

Unfortunately I don't have it

Here's the graph.  Note it's about 6000 spins,

All my numbers are from live roulette .com,

From 28/9/08 to 12/10/08 24 hours a day  recorded on sky

I've coded it in rx. But with  progression 1 to20
Post code in 10 mins
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: tonynewlife on January 29, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
These results are a little hard to believe as i tried this method and i bankroll just kept going down but that was just my experience and i was using live results as well.

nice job though with the graph.

tony
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Gaza001 on January 29, 2012, 03:36:26 PM
 Here is the system code


system "Gaza- 5 numbers to right"

{System  how to follow the wheel
  to allow for a Progression Bet
}
method "main"
begin
    While Starting a New Session
    begin
       //Initial pointer to first progression
        Clear Record "Max. Bet" data;
        Clear Record "Win Goal total Bankroll" data;
        Clear Record "Loss Limit total Bankroll" data;
        Clear Record "Bet Progression List" data;
        put 5 on Record "Win Goal" data;
        put 10 on Record "Loss Goal" data;
        Put 100 % of Bankroll on Record "Starting Bankroll" data;
        //Table list of progression bets
        Set List [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20] to
                                        record "Bet Progression List" Data;
        put 1 on Record "Bet Progression List" Data index;
        Call "Input Data";
        exit;
    end
   
    While On each Spin
    begin
        Call "Check Bet";
        Call "Check Win/Loss";
        Call "Make Bets";
    end
end

//Do Bet based on last number that came up
method "Make Bets"
begin
    While number 0 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 0
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 32
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 15
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 19
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 4

    end

    While number 32 has hit each time
    begin
       Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 32
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 15
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 19
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 4
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 21

    end

    While number 15 has hit each time
    begin
       Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 15
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 19
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 4
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 21
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 25

     end

        While number 19 has hit each time
    begin
       Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 19
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 4
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 21
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 25
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 2

    end

        While number 4 has hit each time
    begin
       Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 2
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 21
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 25
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 2
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 17

     end

        While number 21 has hit each time
    begin
         Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 21
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 25
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 2
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 17
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 34

     end

         While number 25 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 25
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 2
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 17
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 34
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 6

     end

         While number 2 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 2
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 17
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 34
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 6
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 27

     end

         While number 17 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 17
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 34
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 6
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 27
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 13

     end

         While number 34 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 34
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 6
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 27
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 13
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 36

     end

         While number 6 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 6
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 27
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 13
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 36
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 11

     end

         While number 27 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 27
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 13
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 36
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 11
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 30

     end

         While number 13 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 13
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 36
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 11
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 30
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 8

     end

         While number 36 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 36
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 11
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 30
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 8
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 23

     end

         While number 11 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 11
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 30
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 8
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 23
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 10

     end

         While number 30 has hit each time
    begin
         Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 30
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 8
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 23
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 10
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 5

     end

         While number 8 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 8
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 23
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 10
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 5
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 24

     end

         While number 23 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 23
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 10
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 5
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 24
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 16

     end

         While number 10 has hit each time
    begin
         Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 10
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 5
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 24
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 16
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 33

     end

         While number 5 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 5
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 24
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 16
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 33
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 1

     end

         While number 24 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 24
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 16
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 33
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 1
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 20

     end

         While number 16 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 16
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 33
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 1
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 20
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 14

     end

         While number 33 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 33
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 1
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 20
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 14
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 31

     end

         While number 1 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 1
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 20
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 14
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 31
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 9

     end

         While number 20 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 20
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 14
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 31
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 9
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 22

     end

         While number 14 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 14
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 31
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 9
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 22
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 18

     end

         While number 31 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 31
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 9
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 22
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 18
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 29

     end

         While number 9 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 9
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 22
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 18
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 29
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 7

     end

         While number 22 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 22
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 18
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 29
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 7
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 28

     end

         While number 18 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 18
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 29
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 7
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 28
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 12

     end

         While number 29 has hit each time
    begin
         Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 29
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 7
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 28
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 12
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 35

     end

         While number 7 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 7
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 28
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 12
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 35
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 3

     end

         While number 28 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 28
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 12
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 35
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 3
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 26


     end

         While number 12 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 12
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 35
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 3
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 26
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 0

     end

         While number 35 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 35
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 3
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 26
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 0
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 32

     end

         While number 3 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 3
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 26
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 0
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 32
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 15

     end

         While number 26 has hit each time
    begin
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 26
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 0
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 32
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 15
        Put 100 % of Record "Bet Progression List" data on number 19

     end
end

//Check last Bet to see if we Won or Loss
method "Check Bet"
begin
    While Any number Bet has won each time
    begin
        Put 1  on Record "Bet Progression List" Data index;
    end
    Else
    begin
        Add 1 on Record "Bet Progression List" Data index;
       
        While Record "Bet Progression List" Data index >
                                        Record "Max. Bet" Data
        begin
            Put 1  on Record "Bet Progression List" Data index;
        end
    end
end

method "Check Win/Loss"
begin
    While Bankroll > Record "Win Goal total Bankroll" data
    begin
        Display "Win Goal has been reached.
                  The Session will End.";
        Stop Session;
    end
   
    While Bankroll < Record "Loss Limit total Bankroll" data
    begin
        Display "Loss Goal has been reached.
                  The Session will End.";
        Stop Session;
    end
end

method "Input Data"
begin
    Group
    begin
        Input Data "Enter your starting Bankroll:" to Record "Starting Bankroll" data;
        Input Dropdown "What Table Layout do you want to use?
                 
                  1:=European Layout
                  2:=European Layout" to Record "layout" data;

        Input Data "Enter your Win Goal Units?" to Record "Win Goal" data;
        Input Data "Enter your Loss Goal Units?" to Record "Loss Goal" data;
        Input Dropdown "What Level do you want to  Progression Bet:
                 
                  1:=  1  Unit
                  2:=  2  Unit
                  3:=  3  Units
                  4:=  4  Units
                  5:=  5 Units
                  6:=  6  Units
                  7:=  7  Units
                  8:=  8  Units
                  9:=  9  Units
                  10:= 10  Unit
                  11:=  11  Unit
                  12:=  12  Units
                  13:=  13  Units
                  14:=  14 Units
                  15:=  15  Units
                  16:=  16  Units
                  17:=  17  Units
                  18:=  18  Units
                  19:=  19  Unit
                  20:=  20  Unit
                  21:=  20  Units

                 
                 

                  21:= 20 Units" to Record "Max. Bet" data;
    end
   
    Put 100 % of Record "Starting Bankroll" data on Bankroll;
    Put 100 % of Bankroll on Record "Loss Limit total Bankroll" data;
    Put 100 % of Bankroll on Record "Win Goal total Bankroll" data;
    Add 100 % of Record "Win Goal" data on Record "Win Goal total Bankroll" data;
    Subtract 100 % of Record "Loss Goal" data on Record "Loss Limit total Bankroll" data;

    While Record "layout" data = 1
    begin
        Load Single Wheel;
    end
    Else
    begin
        Load single Wheel;
    end
end

Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Nathan Detroit on January 29, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
what happens next ?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: ripple on January 30, 2012, 05:21:57 PM

Masso,

4 or 5 numbers next to the target number?

You say 5 then give an example with 4...   :whistle:



Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: hermes on February 02, 2012, 12:39:42 AM
How I understand it the last # plus 4 more behind that. Eg. last 5 numbers from last 20# are 5-14-23-36-0 than you bet next spin 5,14,23,36 and 0. If lost mark another 20 spins? Explain, please.
It exploits probably only his roulette software weakness?
Hermes
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: robert on February 03, 2012, 11:39:34 AM
Quote from: masso123 on January 24, 2012, 06:48:38 PM
say the 20th number was 13 I would bet on 13 36 11  30 8 and if the other number before 13 were to be 33 I would then follow  33 1 20 14 31

Masso is talking about the wheel layout. Neighbours of 13 are 36,11,30,8....clockwise.
But I don't understand the "20th number". Is it 20th back from the last one? Or is it simply the last number?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 05, 2012, 12:08:48 AM
I am new and also wondering  how this works.
The explaination is not clear.

Alan
yasu3@verizon.net
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: master1986 on February 08, 2012, 08:11:37 PM
MASO, are you still winning with this system? Anyone using it?  hello to all!!!!
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: master1986 on February 08, 2012, 08:12:33 PM
Sorry, I meant masso123 the OP.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on February 09, 2012, 12:39:51 AM
yes im still using it. only playing with $200 now and always hit my target of walking out with at least $400
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on February 09, 2012, 12:41:53 AM
the system it similar to KNOWWHENTOQUIT system, he always talks about the curve of the ball and by following the last number i am able to know where the ball will land around.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: master1986 on February 09, 2012, 01:28:19 AM
Masso thank u for your answer! Your system looks very very interesting. And 80-unit-bankroll ?? Almost unbelievable!!! So, simply you look back at the 20th number (20 numbers ago) and play it with its 4 near numbers clockwise. You lose and then continue with the next number. I will try it ;) Hope it works also on dealer roulette!
Thank you for sharing this!

By the way, how did you come up with this idea of repeating sectors after 20 spins? My congratulations ;)
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: iggy on February 09, 2012, 01:49:18 AM
Hi masso123;

Do you use a progression with this or always flat bet ?

iggy
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on February 09, 2012, 01:55:04 AM
Always flatbet dont really need a  progression. I only came up with this system after speaking to a 60 year old man who goes to the casino daily and told me the way he plays after many years of trying to find a consistent winner and he hasnt lost since starting this system. So i tried it myself and won the first time and thought is was just luck but have won now over 50 times so i dont think i could have been lucky all this time.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 09, 2012, 03:52:14 AM
My only question about the results is, is there something
specific about the machine that you play on that is showing this pattern? :rtfm:

That is what you said.

If so, how did you determine that 20 spin cycle?  Or would it
just be the same all the time? :ok:
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Nathan Detroit on February 09, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
I checked  this  method  against the live wheel at smart live casino.One  might not win  every spin within the 20 spin cycle, one  might even lose all 20 spins  during  a spin cycle but  it could  be possible to come  out ahead at the end of a day`s casino excursion .

Nothing is  guaranteed. Always consider : Fortune is fickle and soon asks back what  she has  given . :diablo:

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 09, 2012, 12:20:11 PM
But what DID happen? :rtfm:
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Nathan Detroit on February 09, 2012, 12:35:01 PM
I  won`t give  a blow  by blow of each spin  for that my   time is much too valuable . Just read my  post once more and  form your   OWN opinion.

I  never endorse   any method or  system. That`s  for each  player to decide for himself.




Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 09, 2012, 12:40:54 PM
Indeed.

And as such, the value of your time is not acheived by what you
saw this method yield.

Nod, wink.

(Of course, if you spend your time haunting casinos to check
random gambling methods, I'll have to access that time value)
:blush2: :skull:
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 09, 2012, 12:41:44 PM
I would also add a "thank you" for the investment of
YOUR valueable time and the report!!!!

Thanks
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: master1986 on February 09, 2012, 01:11:54 PM
Nathan, but you checked with automatic roulette or with dealer roulette?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Nathan Detroit on February 09, 2012, 01:29:52 PM
Dealer-automatic-dealer roulette.

I never spend too much time checking out a  method  but in this case  with 20 spins  I was  compelled to see  myself going thru the entire cycle   of 20 spins  each.

.

N.D.

HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 09, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
I'm speaking a little out of ignorance here, but the 20 spins seems like
a recurrantly updated cycle. So the length of the time that you track
it is open ended.

Not just 20 spins.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 09, 2012, 02:49:51 PM
The "best of 3" method intregues me.

I did a little back testing, but haven't seen any more discussion of it.

Any thoughts?

Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: iggy on February 09, 2012, 06:29:16 PM
Hi again masso123;

Thank you so much for your quick response.

iggy
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 10, 2012, 01:00:34 AM
Here is an attachment that represents how I see this.  First, it is an american wheel.
Next, the data is actual data that I gathered from an airball machine at Twin Rivers
in RI.

The left columb numbers the spins. The right columb starts with the bet
selection starting 20 spins back. Each spin is one betting event and then you
move on to the next spin 20 spins ago for the next. Only two wins out of the
20 that I tried.

Have I got this right?  (The mechanics)??

And why would it not work the way I did it?  As claimed?

Thanks

ALan
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 10, 2012, 01:04:11 AM
Trying the upload again. Looks like just the wheel got uploaded.

This is the data.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: reddwarf on February 10, 2012, 04:38:59 AM
Hi,

The only reason why it "seems" to work:

due to the high volatility the probability of reaching say 4000 units with this method is rather high. Of course this is a long term looser; why in the world would the last  5 spins be any special? Why would this overcome the not so great odds for roulette??

So this old guy and the OP are just plain lucky, when enough people play this for a long time: there will be a happy few and a mass of disappointed people (say 99%). All are the living proof of a remark of Einstein: "Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."

reddwarf
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: ripple on February 10, 2012, 09:48:38 AM

:nono: Playing exact number and 4 to the right of this number (the number which appeared 20 spins ago), plus repeating section once if a winner (winner + 4 numbers to the right), I got trashed on smart live auto air roulette wheels (2 euro wheels)  :shout:. So having learnt the hard way i agree with Red despite the enthusiasm on this thread. Is it really possible that the HG is a system simply consisting of playing the number that appeared 20 spins ago and a few of its neighbours? I absolutely wish it were so, but the odds and the maths and the results are against it. The OP must be playing on a machine that (luckily for him and the OAP) has a glitch. Having said all that though what Ulysses so intelligently said is absolutely correct in theory, so maybe it was just my bad luck that for the hour+ I was playing the results were rocky enough for me to check and check again what the OP wrote as I was playing, just to make sure I was getting it right. As far as I can see I was playing it correctly though  :(.       
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 10, 2012, 10:42:15 AM
Well for one thing I would never test a method live. If anything I would test
on paper, even in live play.

It looks to me like there is more benefit to playing all the OTHER numbers
for a method.  That is probably where the zero will get you. (If you can
play them all without dropping chips on the floor)
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Nathan Detroit on February 10, 2012, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: mogul397 on February 09, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
I'm speaking a little out of ignorance here, but the 20 spins seems like
a recurrantly updated cycle. So the length of the time that you track
it is open ended.

Not just 20 spins.


If  with this method  the  first 10 spins  don`t give you a clue then  you better  be prepared   for   losses which  you can never recover.

It`s easier to  play  on paper and dream on than to   hit a casino with the  required minimum and even with that low amount you`ll  be  in for a rude awakening. The casino   will just nibble  away your money.

N.D. 
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: mogul397 on February 10, 2012, 03:42:18 PM
Nathan, I have to say that from my brief time here in this
chat that I always enjoy your replies which always make sense
and are to the point.

Quite true.  (Which is why I would paper trade ANYTHING to death
before using real money).

Since we are being analytical though, I wonder why you/we are in this room if
the presumption is that nothing can or will work.

Beyond that though,  I always have known that "losers" usually seem to lose
a great deal more than the "house advantage".  And do it consistantly. Having
said that, I always keep wondering why one does not just "play the opposite"
of whatever proceedure common logic leads us to for play methods and be
on the opposite side of the fence.

Winning the large amounts that we are losing (Not me. I don't play to lose.
Speaking about the general public.  FYI, I live in  Mass.  Years ago when the
closest casino was in NJ I would pay $40 for the day bus trip down.  8 hours
down, 8 hours there, 8 hours back. (I called it a "suicide run"). I would play
the two $5 free chips , buy $10 in drinks, and the trip "cost" me $20.
Beyond that I would sit at roulette tables for HOURS, not wanting to leave
to go to the bathroom, and write results down.

Never placing a single bet.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Nathan Detroit on February 10, 2012, 04:19:05 PM
mogul,

The reason I am  at those forums is very  simple  : gathering information  .Where are the best casinos, the  best player friendly casinos ,and which of the  roulette machines to play should  the casino  suddenly decide to switch to electronic  or  airball.

example one  of  our nearby racinos ( only 25 miles)  offered airball roulette . Great. But 6  weeks later they  decided to switch entirely over to  Shuffelmaster VEGAS STAR. No way would I play those  machines .again

Those machnes were only good to play with  a certain method of either BLACK or RED. With my  particular method I  did  win  at 13 casino visits. The  14 th was  a  minor loss. 3 sessions  played :  Session 1 - loss, session 2 - push, session 3 -  win but did not make up for the loss sustained  at session 1.

This method is now my favorite one  to play  at  B & M casinos.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: rayhd63 on April 07, 2012, 05:30:20 AM
Hello to all here in this forum.

I have tried allot on this system and never got it to get going.....
I do not belive that Casinos here in Germany are different , and the wheels are same, 36 numbers with a Zero.
So that cant be the error...
The only thing is , they change every 20-30 minutes. But which Casino lets them sit for more than that ?!?

@ gaza001
     Thanks for the program you did. Lot a work and it looks OK.
     I tried it out and I dowloaded actual nummer from Casinos (Berlin, Hamburg, Wiesbaden, Hohensyburg) , which were realy played and not generatet.
     After running the program : The system FAILED !!!
     So I let Roulette Extreme run for 100.000 Spins and : IT FAILED !!!  see att. Pic.
     It didnt even get to 100.000 spins , didnt even get half way through.

I think the idea is not bad. Maybe we schould try 5 number anticlockwise...

happy easter to all of you
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: masso123 on April 07, 2012, 05:53:32 AM
Yeah i use it as a hit and run tactic and only play for around 20 spins a session if you played over 100spins at a time then yes i do admit that in the long term you would lose. Its basically a get in get a quick profit and leave strategy.
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: superman on April 07, 2012, 05:58:11 AM
QuoteIts basically a get in get a quick profit and leave strategy

And what happens when you get in for a quick session and hit the bad run that you know will happen?
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: Robeenhuut on April 07, 2012, 10:19:40 AM
Quote from: masso123 on February 09, 2012, 01:55:04 AM
Always flatbet dont really need a  progression. I only came up with this system after speaking to a 60 year old man who goes to the casino daily and told me the way he plays after many years of trying to find a consistent winner and he hasnt lost since starting this system. So I tried it myself and won the first time and thought is was just luck but have won now over 50 times so I dont think I could have been lucky all this time.

You won 50 times in row which is what? 2000 spins. Play or test 50000 spins and report back to us.

Regards
Title: Re: Have been winning every single time with this system
Post by: iggiv on April 07, 2012, 09:06:18 PM
Rayhd, this kind of method can't win on a long run like that. Only hit-n-run