I know this will probably be deleted, but it's worth a try......
My daughter is aiming to raise £1,000 for Cancer Research UK via Race for Life in Chelmsford, UK, on 22 July.
If you can dig deep it would be greatly appreciated - any amount would be marvellous and you'll get more satisfaction than putting it on your lucky number which always loses! lol
The catchphrase is 'All of Us vs Cancer' - I have been affected by people having cancer, and there's a good chance you will meet it in some shape or form one day, be it yourself or a loved-one. It will be beaten one day.
Please visit: nolinks://nolinks.raceforlifesponsorme.org/to-make-a-memory/eurl.axd/4fcb082ef2407946bda677fd05c5c4bf
Thank you........
Oh well, at least I had 52 views......
And to those 52 viewers, you have entered into the world of Karma - you viewed the post because you had a slight interest, you may have been touched by Cancer at some point in your life. Believe me, it will bite you at some point in your life.
Not one pound has been donated from this forum. I actually find that disgusting.
My daughter has managed to raise £455 towards finding a cure for one of the most terrible diseases we know.
Go on, donate just a pound - don't give it to William Hill or Ladbrokes - in 10, 20, 30 years' time, you will be thankful you did.
THE CURE FOR CANCER (AND PREVENTION):
1. INCREASE OXYGEN IN BLOOD: Many good herbs for this, including sacred blue lotus. Also plain oxygen mask therapy done very frequently. Cancer does not survive well in high oxygen environment. You could also try hydrogen peroxide, but its risky if done wrong.
2. EAT AND DRINK WITH HIGH ALKALINE DIET: Acidity is cancer's best environment. You need to be alkaline. Cancer does not survive well in alkaline environment.
Rather than plain cutting out cancer, it may be better to directly inject and localize high oxygen and alkaline solution into the cancer cells. It kills them, or rather corrects what cancer is: which is the inability to die and renew as a healthy cell does. Instead of dying like they should, they keep on going.
The cure for heart disease is also found, about 50 years ago. The major heart foundations know about it. They are not doing anything about it.
Far worse than cancer is ignorance.
One example is Alkaline Diet: Why? Cancer? Gout? Weight? Health? (nolinks://phkillscancer.com/alkaline-diet/alkaline-diet-why-cancer-gout-weight-health)
But healthy people arent as profitable.. people in need are most profitable.
Ah, if only it were that simple. The truth is out there somewhere.
QuoteTullio Simoncini lost his offcial license to practice medicine in 2003 in Italy. On May 2006 he was convicted to 3 y. for manslaughter of the first patient and 16 months for having charged 7.500 EUR each to the other 2 patients.
Dr Death | Icke Exposed (nolinks://nolinks.icke-exposed.co.uk/icke-lies/dr-death/)
gizmo, I just don't buy the conspiracy theory thing. Are there those who would benefit if a cure was never found? of course, but on balance, when you take into account all the pros and cons, it just doesn't stack up.
Is There Really a Conspiracy to Suppress Cancer Cures? (nolinks://nolinks.cancertreatmentwatch.org/q/conspiracy.shtml)
It is best to educate yourself before stating opinions.
Time tells all.
gizmo, I'm not a research scientist working on cancer and I doubt very much whether you are either. The great unwashed public such as us have to rely on what we're told by the experts, don't you agree? It doesn't mean we have to swallow it all uncritically, but even if we don't understand all the technical details, we can still come to conclusions based on a common sense overview, and what we DO know or can infer, taking into account all the available data, not just the bit which happens to confirm our prior opinion. The article I posted above is an example of that.
It took me 3 seconds to find this: nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislaw_Burzynski
The trouble with the internet is that it's all too easy to find support for whatever opinions you have, no matter how crazy they are. If you're convinced that there's a conspiracy going on, you'll find "evidence" for it. Likewise, if you're a sceptic, you can find evidence against conspiracy. If you're interested in the truth, surely you need to look at the evidence on both sides and weigh it up, ask yourself who has the most to gain by making those particular claims etc? It's very easy to confirm your prior opinions and prejudices, and it's also easy to disconfirm them. Unfortunately people have a tendency to only seek out confirmation of their beliefs (confirmation bias). It's a very very common cognitive bias.
If you're not interested in the truth, but only want to confirm what you think you know to be true, then nothing or no-one is going to convince you otherwise, and it's a waste of time arguing with you.
Bayes, yes opinions are varied and you can find sites to support any case.
one thing though... The word CONSPIRACY produces a knee jerk reaction, giving images of guys wearing tinfoil on their heads, or fruitcakes with wild theories without any evidence. Then there are people at the other end of the scale who think pharmaceutical companies and politicians were all nice guys that are thinking of us. The truth is in the middle. You can expect a company focused on profit to do what it must to maximize profit.
To think that there arent immoral businessmen that would rather make billions than care for our welfare is a mistake. What is done today is just as immoral as what Hitler did, but he had more of a shock effect because of the brutality. What Hitler did in Germany was... legal.
My point is open your mind and don't be naive.research thoroughly and you'll find realistically some pretty awful things are being done by people in power. Not imagined.
Steve, I'm not denying that there are real conspiracies, and of course as usual in these matters, the truth is somewhere between the 2 extremes. Personally I believe that there have been cover-ups and genuine conspiracies in fuel technology by companies with vested interests, there is plenty of evidence for that.
So many conspiracy theories are predicated on a fallacy: that if someone benefits from X, they must have caused X. The fact that someone makes money from some set of circumstances (even a LOT of money) isn't in itself, a sufficient reason for thinking that had any hand in making the circumstances what they happen to be; coincidences do happen.
But back to cancer. No offence, but I think you're the one being naive if you think that curing and preventing cancer is just a matter of changing your diet. Swing by your local supermarket, pick up a few veggies and a tin of baking soda, and you're sorted! The thing is, it's very simplistic to think that there is one simple cure. There are 200 different kinds of cancer, effective treatments exist for some kinds, but not others. And besides, if a one-size-fits-all super cure were to be found by a drug company, they would make billions; it wouldn't matter if the old drugs became obsolete.
Also, it's such a widespread disease that anyone suppressing a treatment is likely to be condemning their family and friends, and maybe themselves, to a premature death. Not only that, but it's highly likely that a cover up would leak out somehow, very few people are that cynical, someone with a conscience would spill the beans.
Gizmo,
I did watch some of the video.
All I can say is, people have to make their own decisions, and many choose to try alternative treatments if orthodox methods offer no hope. But the fact remains that Burzynski's methods haven't garnered any hard clinical evidence that they're effective. What's more, accusations that the US gov. are suppressing a cure seem a little strange given that:
Quotebased on Burzynski's claims about antineoplastons, the US government-funded National Cancer Institute (NCI) spent nearly a million dollars on an early-phase clinical trial of the treatment in the early 1990s. But the early results were not promising and the trial ended in disarray
Hope or false hope? - Cancer Research UK - Science Update blog (nolinks://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2011/11/25/hope-or-false-hope/)
It's worth reading the entire article.
He's a quack! If he is not then millions of people will needlessly die. Only time
will tell. But this single thing still bothers me. People testified to congress. Nobody
was prosecuted for falsified statements to congress and he won the day in those
hearings. If he is the quack that everyone makes him out to be then why did he
win? Why are they going on to stage III trials? Anyway, most believe him to be
a scammer.
Generally if people make extreme statements, they tend to be wrong. I'm glad we agree the truth is in the middle.
QuoteI think you're the one being naive if you think that curing and preventing cancer is just a matter of changing your diet
Some people have specific genes that make them more susceptible to diseases like cancer and heart disease. Heart disease is ultimately caused by a poor ability to use vitamin c, which is not actually a vitamin but anyway, the two known species that have heart disease are humans and guinea pigs. Larger doses of vitamin c HELP PREVENT heart disease. Also lysine. It is not a guarantee you wont get heart disease, but it sure as hell directly addresses the problem. There were studies 50 or so years ago that showed massive doses of vitamin c actually reverses heart disease. The plaque buildup in arteries is the bodies reaction to not having enough vitamin c, and the plaque is like the patch-job to repair cracked pipes. Thing is there becomes too much build up. That is heart disease, along with brittle "pipes". Vitamin C is needed for healthy pipes. With enough of it, the plaque isnt needed. So the plaque is a defensive thing, it is not some cholesterol buildup like most people think.
As for cancer, each cell is like an electronic circuit. With the acidity too high, it doesn't function correctly. This leads to cancer, which is cells that dont die and become reborn as a normal cell does. Again increasing alkalinity is not the big end-all cure, but it is a major part. Obviously prevention is better than cure, and if you have a high alkaline high oxygen body, cancer simply will not thrive. But eat fatty foods, smoke, don't exercise etc which all leads to low oxygen levels, cancer is far more likely to grow. Also drink lots of soft drinks and other acidic foods/drinks, and your body will become acidic. Did you know aspartame, the artificial sweetener in soft drinks, is used to cause cancer in lab rats for cancer testing?
In some cultures, cancer and heart disease pretty much doesn't exist. It is the food, water and lifestyle mixed with genetics.
So yes, what you eat and what you do with your body is the primary cause of heart disease and cancer. Again some people are more susceptible to it, but you greatly reduce your risks if you treat your body right. The solution to these major problems are very simple. Do you think there are people out there that dont profit billions from cures not being found?
As for this triuth eventually leaking out, thats like saying "if roulette was beatable, everyone would do it". The truth with this is most people dont want to apply non-mechanical advantage play, and look for a simpler way. And most people dismiss roulette as unbeatable so they dont even try. The people that get past this crap and look for the truth regardless of what they expect to find, tend to fund methods that do work. Same with anything else in life. At the moment, there are more ignorant people around than open-minded people. When the balance changes, that is when the truth will be more widespread. For now, most people believe whatever they are told by the "experts".. many of which just happen to mass produce pills that treat symptoms rather than address the causes of ailments.
FYI dick cheney was the CEO of the company that holds right to aspartame. He was a key decision maker in the release of aspartame. These people that pop in and out of very big business and high politics are the kind of people us "consipiracy theorists" have problems with. It is not conspiracy per se. It is simply what these pricks do. Have a good read about the FDA approved aspartame and tell me health is more important than profit: Aspartame - 50% phenylalanine, 40% aspartic acid, 10% methan... - Care2 News Network (nolinks://nolinks.care2.com/news/member/185341883/831125)
You may as well then tell me the fluroide added to water is all good for us because the government says so. They are all so concerned about our teeth. Problem is fluoride makes teeth brittle. Why not just pickle our bodies with toxins. We can be preserved in death. Lets forget about how it calcifies the pineal gland, which is responsible for essential but overlooked functions
If everyone did their own research, THOROUGH RESEARCH, instead of blindly believing media, you could not be appealed at what is going on, and how stupid and blind most people are. Everyone who sees it at some point once thought we lived in a nice little world where the media, the government, big companies all told us the truth. The facts are we are being lied to, deliberately poisoned, deliberately financially restricted, and brainwashed by media. It is no mistake or tinfoil hate false belief. It is actually happening, and the deeper you dig the worse you see it is. When you see it, you will still barely believe how bad it really is.
Some "conspiracy theorists" are accused of being nutty. What would you do if you found out that key people in our governments are having our water deliberately poisoned..... but nobody will believe you or even bother to find the facts to verify. When you tell people, they just think you're nuts. Again people need to get past the CONSPIRACY word. This stuff really is happening. It is not mere theory. Yes there are dickheads that think crazy stuff without any evidence, and they make people dismiss "conspiracy theories" as quackery. Remember the truth is in the middle.
I read the book The pH Miracle written by Robert O. Young Ph.D. :thumbsup:
and since then, cancer doesn't scares me anymore...
Quote from: Steve on June 14, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
Some people have specific genes that make them more susceptible to diseases like cancer and heart disease.
There seems to be increasing recognition in medicine that a one-size-fits-all solution is inadequate. It's easy to forget that medicine/biology are very young sciences. Only 100 years ago or so, the medical profession consisted largely of snake-oil salesman. There are still plenty of them around today, but at least we have a greater understanding of the complexities in the human body, and progress IS being made in cancer treatments. Survival rates in some cancers are double what they were 20 years ago.
QuoteIn some cultures, cancer and heart disease pretty much doesn't exist. It is the food, water and lifestyle mixed with genetics.
So yes, what you eat and what you do with your body is the primary cause of heart disease and cancer. Again some people are more susceptible to it, but you greatly reduce your risks if you treat your body right. The solution to these major problems are very simple. Do you think there are people out there that dont profit billions from cures not being found?
According to Wikipedia -
QuoteCancers are primarily an environmental disease with 90-95% of cases attributed to environmental factors and 5-10% due to genetics.[2] Environmental, as used by cancer researchers, means any cause that is not inherited genetically, not merely pollution.[7] Common environmental factors that contribute to cancer death include tobacco (25-30%), diet and obesity (30-35%), infections (15-20%), radiation (both ionizing and non-ionizing, up to 10%), stress, lack of physical activity, and environmental pollutants.[2]
It is nearly impossible to prove what caused a cancer in any individual, because most cancers have multiple possible causes. For example, if a person who uses tobacco heavily develops lung cancer, then it was probably caused by the tobacco use, but since everyone has a small chance of developing lung cancer as a result of air pollution or radiation, then there is a small chance that the cancer developed because of air pollution or radiation.
It does seem to be the case that cancer is primarily a western disease, so what do we do that non-westerners don't? Lack of exercise and large amounts of sugar seem to be among the primary differences. So we can certainly take action to reduce the risk of cancer by modifying our diet, taking more exercise etc, but there is no evidence that it can be CURED by an alkaline diet or baking soda, as prescribed by 'Dr Death' and his ilk.
The fact that there are people who profit from cures not being found doesn't mean that those who profit are responsible for those cures not being found. You need something much more concrete than that. Where's the smoking gun? If that were the only evidence in a court case it would be dismissed as mere circumstantial. Suppose in the street where you live there's a spate of kids going around smashing windows. One explanation of why they did it would be to think of who would benefit, you conclude therefore that they were hired by the local Acme Window Company. Alternatively, it could just be that they were a bunch of bored kids and there was no ulterior motive at all.
Someone is always going to be making a profit somewhere, and there are always going to be some people unhappy with the way things are. It's so easy to make a connection and conclude that A caused B because A benefits from B, but it's an invalid argument.
Take this accusation that a cancer cure is being suppressed: I hate to point out the obvious, but in such a case it would reasonable to ask where exactly is this cure which has been supposedly suppressed? if there's no corpse to be found, it's pretty hard to prove there's been a murder!
QuoteAs for this triuth eventually leaking out, thats like saying "if roulette was beatable, everyone would do it".
I don't think that analogy is applicable at all. In the first place, hardly anyone plays roulette, and out of those who do, an even smaller % believe that it could be beaten, whereas virtually everyone has a family member or friend or someone they know who has had cancer (my stepfather died of bowel and liver cancer when he was 53). Winning at roulette isn't a matter of life and death (well, maybe in this forum it is :) ). It's not the universally emotive issue that cancer is, and motivation is present in vast numbers of people to find a cure for cancer, but in only a comparatively tiny number of people to beat roulette. More people who have a vested interest means more chance of a leak.
Steve, one of the things which just seems odd and implausible to me in all these conspiracy theories is the implicit notion that there's an US and a THEM. "THEY" are out to bleed us dry or kill us deny us opportunities or whatever. But who are "THEY"? The fact is that THEY are just people like you and me who have all the flaws inherent in being human. Unless you believe that THEY are jewish lizard people like David Icke says...
Sure, there's lots of ignorance and stupidity, so what else is new? there have always been struggles for justice and equality throughout history. Are you really saying that things are getting worse? It sure doesn't seem that way to me. The internet and technology has made a huge difference to societies in terms of freedom and exchange of information (just look at the Arab spring for an example of its power). People ARE 'waking up', and maybe it just SEEMS worse because you're aware of more bad stuff going on, as everyone is these days, thanks to the media and internet.
You say 'Do your own research'. Ok, well firstly, I agree with you that whatever the media says should be taken with a large grain of salt. In general their business is to improve ratings or sell newspapers or whatever, not to communicate the truth. But there is good journalism out there too. The thing is that most people HAVE to rely on experts, few people have the time or inclination to do their own study. Experts are necessary, if they didn't exist we wouldn't have had the advances in technology and knowledge. There is so much information available today from various sources that the most urgent need IMO is to learn how to sift through it and discriminate between what's garbage and what's not. People need to learn how to be more objective and rational, and that's not something which comes naturally, but it can be taught. So it really comes down to education.
Bayes, you would be wiser to view the entire documentary. I doubt that
he is a quack.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (nolinks://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0zBBfN5mQa8&v=0zBBfN5mQa8&gl=US)
Wikipedia chickened-out. They bent over to the same lame argument that
the FDA has made. It's the worst crime in history. Watch the documentary
before you get used in someone else's propaganda war. This is too big to
ignore.
Bayes, you mostly repeated what I said, which is good that we agree on those points.
As for how effective ph and oxygen is, you can do your own research and decide. Nobody argues cancer does not do well at all in high oxygen alkaline environments. But it thrives in low oxygen and acidic environments. So why are cancer patients not immediately advised to change diet? Why just nuke them with radiation? The truth is we have to start somewhere, and changing diet is becoming more common advice. But like I said before, and you said too, it is not the be all end all solution. But certainly is a huge part of it. If you put crap in your body and treat it like crap, it will react like crap. Have you ever poured sewerage into a fish tank and watched the fish? I have... not. but I can guess the outcome.
As for who are THEY? Rockefeller family, Bush family, Cheney.. its a long list, but these are people and families we see. Heavily into banking mainly. Again we are not dealing with conspiracy theories. It is what is happening. For instance, research where money comes from, the federal reserve and what it really is etc. Is it really that hard to believe that there are people in big business that would rather make billions and maintain control than care for our health? Remember, what Hitler did in Germany was legal too.
Did you know the Bush family financed Hitler's campaigns? Oooh conspiracy theory... I'm crraaazy... Well, sorry but it is FACT. Check it. They assisted war starting. The war was also greatly helped by bank loans, then the depression in Germany that followed. Hilter came to power partly because people in germany were desperate for change. Bring people to their knees, and you can get away with murder. While you may argue there was not direct influence, the elite control via banking and debt, so it is indirect. You really need to look into it all to see how devious and clever it really is.
Actually yes, things are getting worse. And I believe they are about to get worse, before they get better. Focus on the finances and DEBT. That is the major tool of control via banking.
Anyway we mostly agree on points, but respectfully you need to do more research on what is going on. The more you dig, the more you'll be appalled and wonder how on earth we could be so stupid and blind. I can tell you now what these people are doing is not human. It really is in every sense absolute evil. But they dont see it as anything more as:
* the masses ALLOW themselves to be controlled and manipulated (they are right)
* it is natural order and survival of the fittest. It is their right to take control (again they are right, but onyl because they are allowed by us to take control)
But for any moral person, the manipulation, the intent and all is what makes it wrong if you consider good to be what is best for all, rather than best for the few.
Very importantly, we shouldnt blame these people. We should blame ourselves for allowing it. They know this. We should know this. If we dont take responsibility for our own lives, then we are what they consider us to be.
Thanks for those positive replies to my original post. Just to let you know my daughter raised £1,000 for Cancer Research.