Question for the roulette trend guys. Lets say red has hit 9 times in a row. I guess we could call that a trend (future, past or present, whatever).
Question being......lets say red has hit 15 of the last 20 spins. We'll throw in one zero and four blacks, kind of scattered around.
Would you still say red is the current trend OR is the definition....it must be all back to back reds?
Ken
The current conditions are 15/20, that's a 75% dominance condition.
I try to stay clear of these weak situations. So it's best to find 80% or
better. 20 spins is a long time for a trend to last. If I'm going to hang
in there with a long lasting trend then it better be a good one.
The old trend is your friend, but always keep an eye out for the young upstart!
For everyone,
If you are going to bet on the EC's and you are going to play for trends, then you need to devise a 'strategy' that will have a low variance (mostly breaks even or thereabouts) while the outcomes are fairly dodging your bets. But when the long streak, or even that world record streak occurs while you're at the table, it WILL be a world of pain for the casino!
Remember spike? He played the EC's, and I think there was more to his name than just a name. Perhaps you can take this idea and mature it into something worthwhile, like a nice mature aged cheese. :thumbsup:
I'd say red is the current. A trend could be two of the same ec's out of three. Just illusions though--still 50/50 minus house edge.
Quote from: Proofreaders2K on June 22, 2012, 10:46:16 AM
I'd say red is the current. A trend could be two of the same ec's out of three. Just illusions though--still 50/50 minus house edge.
From a technical perspective, trends involve looking at the statistical analysis
of historical data over a period of time.
What is trend? Definition of trend: A pattern of gradual change in a condition,
output, or process, or an average.
It's never been just an illusion. The only illusion here is in the minds of
the mathboyz. Changing conditions are real validated opportunities.
10 reds in a row isn't a trend, its a streak. Its
not unusual to see 10 blacks in a row following
10 reds in a row. But you would never see 10
blacks in a row during a red trend. Of course you
don't know its a red trend till its almost over, so
there's that to think about.
Taking RED as an example, the long term odds of repeating RED 10 times in a row is 1223 - 1 .
Resuming with the above given example of RED , the first showing of Red means the beginning of a trend . A showing of 3 Reds in a row I would consider a developing streak is at hand.
N.D.
Quote from: crackers on June 22, 2012, 01:04:52 PM
From a technical perspective, trends involve looking at the statistical analysis
of historical data over a period of time.
What is trend? Definition of trend: A pattern of gradual change in a condition,
output, or process, or an average.
It's never been just an illusion. The only illusion here is in the minds of
the mathboyz. Changing conditions are real validated opportunities.
I thought the thread starter was merely asking opinions about the subject of trends. Agree or not, I stand by my statement.
Call it a streak, call it a trend, or call it whatever you want. In the end
it all adds up to exploitable opportunities.
Quote from: Rdick on June 22, 2012, 03:35:23 PM
Can you explain how/why trends occur.
My first encounter with an EO, an exploitable opportunity, ended up
costing me my pay check. I didn't believe what I was seeing. Trends /
Streaks are not caused by anything magical. They just happen naturally.
More importantly the casinos can't prevent them from occurring. I've
never seen them shut down a table because one player was having a
good run.
Quote from: Rdick on June 22, 2012, 03:35:23 PM
Can you explain how/why trends occur.
I'll have a crack at it.
Ever heard the saying rubbish in rubbish out? Well in this instance is random in random out.
That's why streaks occur. Because you're loading a random input, which guarantees a random output.
If there were no streaks, or chops for that matter, then the output would not be random and if the output is not random then the input is not random, but the input is random so the output must be random, which includes streaks and chops to guarantee the random output from the random input.
Quote from: bombus on June 23, 2012, 05:54:19 AM
That's why streaks occur. Because you're loading a random input, which guarantees a random output.
I think there are categories of random. The outcome
from decaying radioactive material is true random
and you'll see tons of streaks, some of them 40 in
a row. Roulette is kind of random, its tamer, more
predictible. RNG random isn't random at all, its fake
random and is worthless, unless you're a casino trying
to rip off people at the slots.
Is that true that column 3 rules the game, yours opinion?
Regards Timo
Timo,
Just look at column 2 . Compare it with column 3 .What do you see ? Draw your own conclusion from this observation.
This is not an opinion but a fact which cannot be altered.
N.D.
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on June 26, 2012, 03:01:50 AM
Timo,
Just look at column 2 . Compare it with column 3 .What do you see ? Draw your own conclusion from this observation.
This is not an opinion but a fact which cannot be altered.
N.D.
Ok, thanks ND!
Regards Timo