Anybody on this site ever look at the double street system based on the Law of the Third, that Turbo posted over a year ago on the GG site?
Having played it on the roulette terminals to past the time, I thought it was really good bet selection~wise, while the money management was very difficult. Not often the problem is the MM and not the bet selection.
You guys spend a lot more time than me looking at this game, so I thought I would mention it, as I'm sure somebody here will have seen it.
I can reproduce it here, if there is any interest.
Okay so no interest, everybody is winning doin' what they are doin', congrats ;)
The thing about this method, obviously everybody has seen it, is that the bet selection method actually makes logical sense and works, it ties in with the "law of the third". Having played it, I can testify to that.
The expectation of a strike on the double street, becomes 50% after 4 spins, 82% after 10 spins and 97% after 20 spins, while you may be sweating after 20 spins, you are winning elsewhere, so it is possible to off-set / delay some of those losses, or perhaps you do think that you will get 37 different outcomes for 37 spins, my guess because you are playing the double streets, even if that occurred you would still grab wins regardless.
égalité
Turbo is a has been.
Egalite all this stuff is well known. He himself found no winner. Everything was losing.
I don't think there is anybody who put more into Roulette than Turbo G over the years. I've played this (a few years ago), It is my opinion this was one of his better systems, there are not many of his I would play, but I did play this one.
What I was hoping for was a fresh prospective on the money management angle, as this seems to be the sticking point, there are enough brains on this site to tweak and thoroughly run this through it's pacers. For example what are the extremes for a 6 street sleeping, can that be off-set by wins elsewhere?
Baccarat is my game, however many times I am at a lose end while waiting for other players to turn up, so I thought I might resurrect this, obviously my mistake, you all have your own winning systems and are cleaning up on a consistent basis, so again congrats.
sayonara
" What I was hoping for was a fresh prospective on the money management angle,"
Here's the best tweak for you. Give up on finding a rule based system that uses
any kind of progression. These law of thirds things all disappoint in the long run.
Quote from: Egalite on June 26, 2012, 12:25:09 PM
The expectation of a strike on the double street, becomes 50% after 4 spins, 82% after 10 spins and 97% after 20 spins...
The expectation of a strike on the double street is 16.22% for single Z wheel.
No matter what you see unfold in front of you, it never changes into anything else. It is always 16.22%
Quote from: bombus on June 27, 2012, 03:03:41 AM
The expectation of a strike on the double street is 16.22% for single Z wheel.
No matter what you see unfold in front of you, it never changes into anything else. It is always 16.22%
Let's notify the world that empirical evidence & "the law of averages" are
now superfluous.
Quote from: bombus on June 27, 2012, 03:03:41 AM
The expectation of a strike on the double street is 16.22% for single Z wheel.
No matter what you see unfold in front of you, it never changes into anything else. It is always 16.22%
Accepted, however you are being paid 5-1, plus you won't be in a situation were you are only backing the single double street, you might be backing 4 x 6 streets, or in a rare situation 5 x 6 streets. Which is why I eluded to sleeping 6 streets can (and probably need to) be off-set from those that are hitting, i.e double spins, triple spins even, repeating dozens and the like.
Expectation vs empirical evidence: In 36 spins the same double street
is expected to hit 6 times. But it hits 12 times and repeats once after
each of 6 times that it hits. Not only did it hit more than expected but
it hit in a perfect patterned style. I can win playing the unexpected
pattern. I can't win on the disappointment of expectations. How can
anyone?
EMPIRICAL............Been tryin' to think of that word for a week.
I tried the lines system. Beat me to a pulp....
TwoCat
Quote from: TwoCatSam on June 27, 2012, 04:01:01 PM
EMPIRICAL............Been tryin' to think of that word for a week.
" Empirical research is a way of gaining knowledge by means of direct and indirect observation or experience. Empirical evidence (the record of one's direct observations or experiences) can be analyzed quantitatively or qualitatively."
Quote from: crackers on June 27, 2012, 01:08:33 PM
...I can win playing the unexpected pattern. I can't win on the disappointment of expectations. How can anyone?
It's the 'disappointment of expectations' that can consume all the unexpected patterns in just a few bites.
Quote from: bombus on June 27, 2012, 10:37:38 PM
It's the 'disappointment of expectations' that can consume all the unexpected patterns in just a few bites.
Not in my hands and not with my skill set. Apparently I will never be able to
teach experience. If you do get taken out by the losses then you succeed in
confirming your point. Patterns are rare opportunities. If you think they are
common then perhaps you have learned enough. Losers need to move on and
find another interest.
I'm answering in context to the thread, where I believe the idea is to keep hammering down a progression on the sixlines until you win because the odds keep getting better for a hit the longer the sixlines sleep.
This is begging for the 'disappointment of expectations' to chew your arse up and spit it down you grandma's throat.
Yes, well in context to this thread I agree.
Theres a lot to be learned from TurboG. He didnt intend the learning to be quite this, but I will explain.
The first thing to note is that his suite of ideas and systems were in Blog form. This wasnt interactive either so it was more like reading a book rather than watching kids arguing in a chat room.
In this way, the idea was there to see without interuption.
I have missed many ideas here, more so over in CC roulette, when a post gets to 400 entries, including several changes, making it a strain to follow or pick up the thread when you look in after its been going for days.
Sometimes the contradictions are personal to the poster and the posters are desperate to ruin the post or prove the original poster doesnt know jack Shtt, score points againt, or just disrupt.
Secondly, with TurboG, each idea was explained, even if it was based on another idea.
Theres nothing worse than this: " I have this idea called Code 22. Just track same as divide and conquer, but use code 4 progression...then......."
Jesus.....what if I havnt read any of them? 400 posts in divide and conquer, with 5 different changes, and 7 lengthy arguments.
I think TurboG worked because he explained an idea well. No one was interupting and he was modest...which wasnt irratating.
No matter how we disregard TurboG, it was never his fault that no system works without falling into the black hole.
Turner