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Title: Losing money
Post by: J8 on July 12, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
How many of you actually win at the casino, especially roulette? I'm just curious, cause I''ve always been loosing (last loss is in the 5 figures) a lot. I can afford to, but anyways it's a lot - often a sense of dread sneaks up on me, considering all the money I've lost in the past.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: mcmonaco on July 12, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Quote from: J8 on July 12, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
How many of you actually win at the casino, especially roulette? I'm just curious, cause I''ve always been losing (last loss is in the 5 figures) a lot. I can afford to, but anyways it's a lot - often a sense of dread sneaks up on me, considering all the money I've lost in the past.

Am really sad to hear such story.How and what you play to lose consistently.
OK man you wana win 100 units each day.......since it seems you have a decent BR
this is infalible thing......Bet last 4 sectors until los....switch on furthest 5 sectors until los.
Cycle close.....if + stay on same if minus rise 1 unit next cycle.Important thing is here that
this relays on repeaters and those indeed happen throughout normal 300 spins session.
Play only B&m casino....no online or RNG.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: J8 on July 12, 2012, 01:01:31 PM
Quote from: mcmonaco on July 12, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Am really sad to hear such story.How and what you play to lose consistently.
OK man you wana win 100 units each day.......since it seems you have a decent BR
this is infalible thing......Bet last 4 sectors until los....switch on furthest 5 sectors until los.
Cycle close.....if + stay on same if minus rise 1 unit next cycle.Important thing is here that
this relays on repeaters and those indeed happen throughout normal 300 spins session.
Play only B&m casino....no online or RNG.

When I got time I play blackjack (I can count cards really well, but these days it only gives you a very small advantage ..the money I win there & more I lose at automatic alfastreet roulette. The real dealer is pretty far away from home(1 hour of driving) & I don't have too much time to play. Last loss really sunk my stomach.
What do you mean by sectors, & furthest 5 sectors? I usually bet 2*x on 1st 12 & 3*x on 19-36, small series & orphelins or big series& orphelins. This roulette will sink you no matter what you do. Any recommended online live roulette? I tried to use vb like macedonian, but I failed. I'm really surprised some of you win.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: mcmonaco on July 12, 2012, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: J8 on July 12, 2012, 01:01:31 PM
When I got time I play blackjack (I can count cards really well, but these days it only gives you a very small advantage ..the money I win there & more I lose at automatic alfastreet roulette. The real dealer is pretty far away from home(1 hour of driving) & I don't have too much time to play. Last loss really sunk my stomach.
What do you mean by sectors, & furthest 5 sectors? I usually bet 2*x on 1st 12 & 3*x on 19-36, small series & orphelins or big series& orphelins. This roulette will sink you no matter what you do. Any recommended online live roulette? I tried to use vb like macedonian, but I failed. I'm really surprised some of you win.

WILL PM YOU AND EXPLAIN
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: crackers on July 12, 2012, 02:05:21 PM
The trick to winning sessions is in allowing the losses to
be your friend. Everything that happens can lead you to
stronger stretches of things that continue. Randomness
flows in and out of opportunities both negative and positive.
When you know how to adapt to the conditions you can
attack and retreat to your advantage. If you can't deal with
these concepts then don't bother objecting to them. The
big secret to winning is in knowing how to avoid losses.

If you know how to win then you don't need win limits. If you
know how to win then you know that each session is a unique
experience that has no rhyme or reason to follow a set of rules.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: cheese on July 12, 2012, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: crackers on July 12, 2012, 02:05:21 PM
The trick to winning sessions is in allowing the losses to
be your friend.



Your losses are pretty much your best (only?) friends, right?
Without all your losses, what would you have left to talk about.
There are no wins to speak of.... Just sayin..
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: crackers on July 12, 2012, 03:40:09 PM
Quote from: cheese on July 12, 2012, 03:17:48 PM

Your losses are pretty much your best (only?) friends, right?
Without all your losses, what would you have left to talk about.
There are no wins to speak of.... Just sayin..

I can talk about plenty. Why anyone would take your advice is the real question.
All you have is flat betting the EC's, and getting all tuckered out after an hour of
deep concentration. If you had anything of value you would be able to share how
you avoid losses. I have no trouble what so ever. All you have is a bunch arguing
and baseless innuendo.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Nathan Detroit on July 12, 2012, 04:24:04 PM
This  cat J8 loses in the  5 figures  but HE KNOWS how  to  gamble and preaches  about his losses.. ROFLMAO.
Next we hear it`s more blessed to give than to receive. Amen.


I don`t gamble. The casino does  by allowing me to play there.
N.D.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Davemd on July 12, 2012, 04:44:40 PM

"I don`t gamble. The casino does  by allowing me to play there.
N.D."

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

bloody well said Nathan I love it mate

Davemd.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Proofreaders2K on July 12, 2012, 05:18:40 PM
"Next we hear it`s more blessed to give than to receive. Amen."--Nathan Detroit

Nothing wrong with a strong prayer life, ND.  Why not some good Karma
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How many of you actually win at the casino, especially roulette? I'm just curious, cause I''ve always been losing (last loss is in the 5 figures) a lot. I can afford to, but anyways it's a lot - often a sense of dread sneaks up on me, considering all the money I've lost in the past.--J8

First off, the outside bets are a trap.  With the kind of bankroll you have, you can take chances with the inside numbers.  Instead of 12, 18 or 24 numbers, consider betting one or two numbers, frequent numbers that tend to hit & flat-bet those with moderate stakes.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: cheese on July 12, 2012, 06:24:22 PM
Quote from: crackers on July 12, 2012, 03:40:09 PM
I can talk about plenty.

Talk is all you have. Lets look at your record in
competitions instead. Oh, wait.


Never mind....
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Nathan Detroit on July 12, 2012, 07:50:56 PM
Husband and wife  at a B & M casino  meeting after each one takes a break;

Hubby: How  are you doing?

Wife: I won $100 at the slot machine. How  are you doing?

Hubby: I lost $ 6,000.-- at the tables.

Wife: WHAT!!!

Hubby: But I KNOW HOW TO GAMBLE.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: crackers on July 12, 2012, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: cheese on July 12, 2012, 06:24:22 PM
Talk is all you have. Lets look at your record in
competitions instead...

Let's not. I told you to go make your million while you can.  This is my plan:
I'm going to declare with the IRS my professional gambler status. In the next
two years I will document all my successes in a gambling journal. This journal
will be published on the internet for everyone to read. At that time a ground
rush of the throng will descend upon your minimal acquisition of expertise.
You will be too tired and worn out to keep up. You will be the classic fool.

So this is for you. You will be the big fool that I know that you really are.
Talk is cheap. Two years is nothing in the big picture. Complain... don't
complain... Nobody cares. It's  time to pull the big trigger. My bet is that
you are too stupid not to get as much as you can while you can.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: cheese on July 12, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: crackers on July 12, 2012, 09:26:05 PM
In the next
two years I will document all my successes in a gambling journal.

Why go thru all that work, which is meaningless. You want
to shut down roulette? Publish how to do it right here on a public
forum, for the whole world to see. You won't because you can't,
quit trying to pretend you're something everybody knows you
aren't.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: crackers on July 12, 2012, 11:26:34 PM
Quote from: cheese on July 12, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
Why go thru all that work, which is meaningless. You want
to shut down roulette? Publish how to do it right here on a public
forum, for the whole world to see. You won't because you can't,
quit trying to pretend you're something everybody knows you
aren't.

People don't want anything but proof. The clock is ticking.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: cheese on July 13, 2012, 02:05:22 AM
Quote from: crackers on July 12, 2012, 11:26:34 PM
People don't want anything but proof.

You think sitting down and making up fake wins in a
journal is proof of anything? The proof is showing people
how to win. Thats the only proof there is. That and live
demo's, and we all know how you love them.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: marvin on July 13, 2012, 08:32:30 AM
you lovers(c&c) are off topic already go get a room  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: crackers on July 13, 2012, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: marvin on July 13, 2012, 08:32:30 AM
you lovers(c&c) are off topic already go get a room  :thumbsup:

If you have any capacity at all you should at least notice that it is cheese that
hijacks any thread that I post in. He hates what I'm attempting to do.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: crackers on July 13, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
Quote from: cheese on July 13, 2012, 02:05:22 AM
You think sitting down and making up fake wins in a
journal is proof of anything? The proof is showing people
how to win. Thats the only proof there is. That and live
demo's, and we all know how you love them.

You really are an imaginative creature. All I have to do is convince the casinos
that I can beat them at will. I could even convince them by beating them
consistently with high stakes. It's not the people here that will lead the way.
These people will be the ones that had it but failed to use it. You will be the
biggest dope of all. One single Spanish family changed the entire Roulette
world in just a little more than one year and 1.5 million dollars. This is ten
times more powerful than that.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: cheese on July 13, 2012, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: crackers on July 13, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
This is ten
times more powerful than that.

Gizmo, you give a whole new meaning to the phrase 'talk
is cheap'. With you, talk is actually meaningless. You've
been slinging this garbage of closing down roulette for a
couple years now, and so far all you've proven is you can't
win to save your sorry beehind. Why don't you give it up
already, you have a fan base of exactly zero believers.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: crackers on July 13, 2012, 03:39:49 PM
YOU ARE BEGINNING TO ACT LIKE ANOTHER CONTROL FREAK. The big deal
cheese/spiked command tower.  :aggressive:


Quote from: cheese on July 13, 2012, 03:10:09 PM
Gizmo, you give a whole new meaning to the phrase 'talk
is cheap'. With you, talk is actually meaningless. You've
been slinging this garbage of closing down roulette for a
couple years now, and so far all you've proven is you can't
win to save your sorry beehind. Why don't you give it up
already, you have a fan base of exactly zero believers.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: crackers on July 13, 2012, 03:51:26 PM
The big picture:

Two years ago I began to teach ten people.
After that was done I waited one year.
Then I posted answers to every question without holding back.
Now is the beginning of two years to prove everything.

In all that cheese has waged his worthless, jihadist saviour of the world agenda.
He's too stupid or all tuckered out to get HIS while the Sun still shines.
Watch this.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: I have cookies on July 13, 2012, 05:08:32 PM
Quote from: J8 on July 12, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
How many of you actually win at the casino, especially roulette? I'm just curious, cause I''ve always been losing (last loss is in the 5 figures) a lot. I can afford to, but anyways it's a lot - often a sense of dread sneaks up on me, considering all the money I've lost in the past.

J8 - did not know that and got a different impression after reading your Alfa topic.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Robeenhuut on July 14, 2012, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: mcmonaco on July 12, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Am really sad to hear such story.How and what you play to lose consistently.
OK man you wana win 100 units each day.......since it seems you have a decent BR
this is infalible thing......Bet last 4 sectors until los....switch on furthest 5 sectors until los.
Cycle close.....if + stay on same if minus rise 1 unit next cycle.Important thing is here that
this relays on repeaters and those indeed happen throughout normal 300 spins session.
Play only B&m casino....no online or RNG.

So repeaters  only happen on B&M casino?  And for how long did you play it to claim thats an infallible thing? ;D
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: J8 on July 14, 2012, 03:36:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on July 12, 2012, 04:24:04 PM
This  cat J8 loses in the  5 figures  but HE KNOWS how  to  gamble and preaches  about his losses.. ROFLMAO.
Next we hear it`s more blessed to give than to receive. Amen.


I don`t gamble. The casino does  by allowing me to play there.
N.D.
Has my post offended you in any way? If not, please try to be civilized & drop the barbarisms.
Thank you,
Vlad
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: J8 on July 14, 2012, 03:58:58 PM
All I wanted was to find some statistics, not a cheap display of vanity wars & vintage attitudes.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Davemd on July 14, 2012, 05:01:07 PM
Quote from: J8 on July 14, 2012, 03:36:59 PM
Has my post offended you in any way? If not, please try to be civilized & drop the barbarisms.
Thank you,
Vlad

Hey man just chill out Nathan didnt mean anything bad by it

Its just a little humour
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Proofreaders2K on July 14, 2012, 05:05:37 PM
Quote from: J8 on July 14, 2012, 03:58:58 PM
All I wanted was to find some statistics, not a cheap display of vanity wars & vintage attitudes.

What kind of statistics J8?
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: J8 on July 15, 2012, 12:42:52 AM
Quote from: Proofreaders2K on July 14, 2012, 05:05:37 PM
What kind of statistics J8?
How many win at this damned anomaly called roulette.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: marvin on July 15, 2012, 01:05:01 AM
Quote from: mcmonaco on July 12, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Am really sad to hear such story.How and what you play to lose consistently.
OK man you wana win 100 units each day.......since it seems you have a decent BR
this is infalible thing......Bet last 4 sectors until los....switch on furthest 5 sectors until los.
Cycle close.....if + stay on same if minus rise 1 unit next cycle.Important thing is here that
this relays on repeaters and those indeed happen throughout normal 300 spins session.
Play only B&m casino....no online or RNG.

is this the latestmod for PCWB?
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Proofreaders2K on July 15, 2012, 05:22:46 AM
Quote from: J8 on July 15, 2012, 12:42:52 AM
How many win at this damned anomaly called roulette.

Right now the big winner here is Mr. J who is known to have won $18,000 at a session.  Two other wise men are Winkel (see Great Universal Theory) and Flat Ino (see Promised Constant Winning Bet).
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: pins on July 15, 2012, 06:04:35 AM
i think everbody loses in the long run. the odds sound good but if you back single numbers say 5 numbers at the five dollar table. thats 25 dollars a spin 500 hundred dollar bankroll. 4 spins a hundred dollars 20 spins  500 dollars  one number pays 180  you need to hit three numbers to show a profit  40 dollars. the casino has 32 numbers against your five.  do the maths. i play some days winning is easy you think you are good at picking numbers its just blind chance you have no skill nobody does. then you go and lose the lot. this is the roulette story.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: J8 on September 22, 2012, 09:03:32 AM
Quote from: crackers on July 12, 2012, 02:05:21 PM
The trick to winning sessions is in allowing the losses to
be your friend. Everything that happens can lead you to
stronger stretches of things that continue. Randomness
flows in and out of opportunities both negative and positive.
When you know how to adapt to the conditions you can
attack and retreat to your advantage. If you can't deal with
these concepts then don't bother objecting to them. The
big secret to winning is in knowing how to avoid losses.

If you know how to win then you don't need win limits. If you
know how to win then you know that each session is a unique
experience that has no rhyme or reason to follow a set of rules.

I challenge you to a game of logic.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Mr J on September 22, 2012, 05:48:23 PM
Quote from: Proofreaders2K on July 15, 2012, 05:22:46 AM
Right now the big winner here is Mr. J who is known to have won $18,000 at a session.  Two other wise men are Winkel (see Great Universal Theory) and Flat Ino (see Promised Constant Winning Bet).

......with $100 units and only betting 2-3 numbers, along with 8 hours of play. Just trying to be specific.  :angel:

Ken
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Timo on September 22, 2012, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: Mr J on September 22, 2012, 05:48:23 PM
......with $100 units and only betting 2-3 numbers, along with 8 hours of play. Just trying to be specific.  :angel:

Ken

Heh you are Man Ken, no fear.. ;)

Regards Timo
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: schoenpoetser on September 23, 2012, 07:09:46 AM
It is a very long discussion how to beat the roulette.I have wrote it before, the best way is a good strategy and skill.

I play allready 35 years and made a study of randomsequences.

Every system is doomed to fail. I invite you to watch a demonstration on internet. In the past I didnot lose one demonstration.

I use MIKOGO to share my computer.

Don`t think you will become a millionaire playing with a small BR. My experience is ,you are a very successful player with a profit of 1 to2% of total bets
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: Nathan Detroit on September 23, 2012, 03:03:48 PM
Never ignore the fact that roulette wheels  are full of vengeance if  any one  is  trying to outsmart them

This has been demonstrated many times over and over again. Their STING hurts.........in the wallet..

N.D.
Title: Re: Losing money
Post by: qayotee on October 10, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
If you play zero or double zero roulette you will not win long term if your not playing biased wheels or cheating. However, now that there is no zero roulette, strategies can actually meka you good profits in the long run. So I have actually been making money by using good strategies, sticking to them and taking care of my bankroll. Of course, as always patience is key.