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Title: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 23, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
Step one:  Look to the left where you see

0
00

With the < sign.  (That does not mean "less than".  Could be { also.  Anything to note that the two numbers are paired.)  Notice that some numbers are scratched out.

How to play, briefly.  Must walk hounds.

Make you mark to indicate the pair.  Spin.  If one of those win, you're a winner.  If not, block out the number that came on both sides of the sheet.  Then number 2 bet

00
27.

Same thing.  Wife is yelling........

Sam
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 23, 2012, 10:54:28 PM
Scan is now good.

OK

The 1 and 2 is the progression number.  I will attach the progression.  Odd numbers are always on the left, even on the right.

All bets must be on numbers immediately next to each other.  No scratched out numbers in between.  You simply move down the sheet selecting what two to bet on.

Easy enough for first lesson.  Any questions?

Sam
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 23, 2012, 10:57:54 PM
Sheets and progression..
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 23, 2012, 11:10:28 PM
The sheet I made and use is a .tif file which will not attach.  I'll get to it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: wento on August 26, 2012, 11:39:56 AM
ok so i get how you have marked the progression and move down betting on the two numbers, what i dont get at the moment is the scratched off numbers? are they ones that have shown up? what happens once you reach the bottom of the number sheet you just restart at the top of a new one?
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 26, 2012, 11:45:46 AM
The scratched off are numbers that came.  The < that connects the pairs just moves down the column, alternating between left and right.  You must always have a pair together---no crossed-offs in between.

At the end, the very last number in either column......look back at the top----is the very first number crossed off?  If not, the very last and very first are a "two".  If it is crossed off, move down the column to find the new "two".

"Twos" can sometimes be dead and then re-activate.  It all depends on the numbers that hit and where you cross off.  In my later trials, I erased all progression numbers  except the very last number of the progression I was on and the crossed off numbers.  Keeps the sheet clean and you know where your next bet is.

Be very careful to alternate columns.

More questions?

Shoot!

Sam
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: wento on August 26, 2012, 11:49:52 AM
ok so just say you got down till there was only two numbers left then you just start betting on them only following the progression untill it pays out? then once that happens start a with a new fresh set of numbers? and is that how you are ment to play every session keep playing untill you only have two numbers left even if you have had a win previous?
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 26, 2012, 08:10:24 PM
Look at my sheet.  It won on the fourth spin.

When you get a win, that sheet is gone.  Start a new one or erase it.

You will not get down to two numbers very often, but if you do just keep following the progression...left side then right side...until the progression ends.  If that happens, you have lost.

You should see the sheets I did during my study.  Quite a few.  Very few losses.  Over 6,000 units profit.

Sam
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: wento on August 26, 2012, 10:19:57 PM
Ok thanks for explaining it, I get it now and sounds good, I might play around with it on my days off :)
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: cheEsteban on September 08, 2012, 03:18:39 PM
I decided to try and understand this method again.... and i did! will try it out, see what happens. Thanks Sam!
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: wento on September 11, 2012, 07:57:17 AM
hey guys i just had a play around with this with real money on BV it did really well so far have won $250 and the worst part in the progression i got up to was 47 and 33 in another game other than that it usually was around the 5 to 15 mark.. pretty happy with it at the moment lol i think im gonna keep playing around with it and see what happens.
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 11, 2012, 10:29:00 AM
I found an old thread of mine, a test thread.  I went up far more than I ever thought.  I was up 11,000 plus at one point.

Mr J does not bloviate, posts exact systems and they always "seem" to win.

What more could we ask?

Sam
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: Mr J on September 11, 2012, 04:25:27 PM
Thing is, if everyone played them EXACTLY PERFECT (as I do), you'll get even more wins. In my opinion (I might be wrong), quite a few members are doing 'well' based on betting half ass correct. Do *NOT* take that wrong, its NOT an insult to anybody!!!

Ken
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: Proofreaders2K on September 11, 2012, 05:12:23 PM
I love your methods and would like to see more.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: A3on47 on September 12, 2012, 12:49:41 AM
Quote from: Mr J on September 11, 2012, 04:25:27 PM
Thing is, if everyone played them EXACTLY PERFECT (as I do), you'll get even more wins. In my opinion (I might be wrong), quite a few members are doing 'well' based on betting half ass correct. Do *NOT* take that wrong, its NOT an insult to anybody!!!

Ken

Ken, I would like to ask for a full correct betting explanation :)

I miss a lot of your threads that "disappeared" =/
"Two's company" is one of then

Best regards,
Afonso
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: MattyMattz on September 13, 2012, 12:35:58 PM
Sam,

have been testing this method again after dusting it off the shelves (I love all of Ken's old huge progression systems).  It still showing great results (approx. 1 unit per spin).  Do you know how many spins it took you to get that 11,000 units?  Just curious... don't kill yourself trying to find out.

Thanks,
MM
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 13, 2012, 05:31:41 PM
Matty

I am currently in Clearwater, Florida to see Winter, the tail-less dolphin so my records are around 2,000 miles away!!  However, when I return home I plan to make a short video and show folks just how many sheets I went through.  It was a hundred or more, I'm sure.  Somewhere there is a testing thread that has more info on it.

I was amazed I had the tenacity to stay with the testing as long as I did.  But it is quick and I did it over a few weeks.  I don't think I made it all the way through the Zuma book, but I did many thousands of spins.

Sam
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: MattyMattz on September 13, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
Thanks Sam, no rush at all, just curious really.  Testing by hand is easy, but slow (obviously).  I'm gonna try and tackle 10k spins and see what the results are.

MM
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: wento on September 13, 2012, 11:45:11 PM
I've been using this with real money on bv and so far have just made a little over 1000 euro and I have used around 43 sheets , but as for the time it varies as u may win in the first 4 spins and other times it has gone up to 50 for me, a question to 2 cat Sam how many times did u loose if at all during your time to get up to around 11k?
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: sniper on September 13, 2012, 11:46:35 PM
QuoteThing is, if everyone played them EXACTLY PERFECT (as I do), you'll get even more wins. In my opinion (I might be wrong), quite a few members are doing 'well' based on betting half ass correct. Do *NOT* take that wrong, its NOT an insult to anybody!!!

Ken

Hello Ken,

Thank you very much for your "Two's Company".

I have been playing this system "half ass correct" in B&M casino for quite sometime and is still positive to date.

I play using flat bet and no progression.

I skip the first 10 spins. If there is a hit, I restart tracking.

If there is no hit during the first 10 spins, I start betting real money.

On any hit and if my result shows positive, I stop betting and start all over again.

If I am still negative after a hit I continue playing till positive or to the end of the cycle.

I could be wrong. Please commend.

Regards and Best Wishes

sniper
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: marvin on September 14, 2012, 09:17:39 AM
i think i still havent got it correctly, i still cant get a hit.
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 14, 2012, 07:50:18 PM
Don't know how many losses I had.  Will post that when I get home.

Fact is, the wins far, far overcame the few loses.  Sometimes it made you sweat.  Got to over 40 many times, then won.
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: marvin on September 15, 2012, 12:19:09 AM
grrrr i still dont get it
is there something wrong with my reading comprehension :(
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: wento on September 15, 2012, 02:50:07 AM
All you do is print out the sheet then first bet in the progression you place on 0,1 (this is for single zero wheel) and then when a number comes up say 32 you cross that out on both sides and then you jump to the right column then normal you would have bet 0,32 but because it was taken out you would bet 0,15. Then let's say 10 comes out, you cross 10 off on both sides, then you go back to the left column and bet 2,3. Then 3 comes out and you have now won start again on a new piece. But if u go for ages without a win you would just keep going till u either run out of progression and money or you win the worst I have gotten to is 50
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: marvin on September 15, 2012, 03:30:24 AM
Quotebut because it was taken out you would bet 0,15
but ive read somewhere that there should be no spaces in between....

so its just like chasing the number.... although i am a "due" guy, for the love of roulette i will still try it.
thank you :D
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 15, 2012, 09:11:48 PM
marvin

My understanding and you are right.

Must be

N
N

not

N
N
N

Now, later on in the game, those two may become active again depending on what hit above or below.  Not hard to do on paper; beastly hard to explain with words.

Sam
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: wento on September 15, 2012, 10:47:51 PM
Oh wow I just re read ur post Sam and you say only play number that are directly together ( so I have been playing wrong lol but with good results) so what do u do about those numbers that are no longer together? Ignore them..?
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 16, 2012, 07:13:24 PM
Suppose you have four numbers:

1
2
3
4........these are examples, not real numbers.

Suppose you have bet 1&2 and 3&4 and both are "dead".  Now, somewhere down the line, the 1 hits and then the 4 hits.  That frees up 2&3 to form a new couplet.

I hope that's right.  I'm in Fort Myers, Fla.  Far from my notes.

Sam
Title: Re: Mr J's "Two's Company" revisited by TwoCatSam
Post by: rayhd63 on September 17, 2012, 09:51:49 PM
QuoteI'm in Fort Myers, Fla.

....that's where I would like to be right now !!!! Been to Captiva Island 8 years ago. Lovely area.

Sam, have a great time. Looking forwart to your notes, I want to know how that thing works....

Ray