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Title: Just getting started
Post by: klw on August 27, 2012, 07:42:01 AM
Hi -- Would appreciate the help, the information on here is overwhelming and seems a bit difficult to follow.

I am just starting out , I don't live anywhere near a casino so that limits me to online or T.V. roulette.

I would prefer to bet during the day ( GMT + 0 thinking of T.V. roulette here , I have noticed some don't start until the evening )
I think a live table would be better unless of course you can tell me of an online site that is honest ( I'm not holding my breath here )

I should be able to cope with almost anything else.

Would also appreciate any info. on a roulette analysis software , preferably free initially.

From a newbie at roulette many thanks in anticipation,


klw
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: pins on August 27, 2012, 07:59:11 AM
my advice. is roulette can not be beaten. if you just want to play for fun.ok.  but if you think you can make your fortune. it can not be done. do not buy any system. who would sell a winning system. . i am sure all the winners will attack this statement. there is no way to forecast what the next spin will be.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: klw on August 27, 2012, 09:31:44 AM
Eh thanks Pins but I'm a big boy and can look after myself.Perhaps we can get back on topic now,much appreciated.


klw
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: wento on August 27, 2012, 10:01:26 AM
I read alot of reviews of online casinos and bet voyager and dublinbet seemed to be up there, at the moment I am playing with bet voyager and everything seems to be sweet they don't take any commissions either if u play the normal games Iv just requested a withdrawal aswell and says it can take up to a day or two so I'll be putting that to the test, they also pay u interest on money u have in your account at around 7%pa Wich is fine by me :)...
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: klw on August 27, 2012, 10:45:19 AM
Hi Wento , that's very helpful , thanks very much , I'll take a look.


klw
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: wento on August 27, 2012, 11:08:11 AM
Also just received 245 euro from them into my moneybookers account within 12hrs.... Gotta be happy with that :)
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: superman on August 27, 2012, 02:22:51 PM
QuoteAlso just received 245 euro from them into my moneybookers account within 12hrs
:good:
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: ReDsQuaD on August 27, 2012, 02:40:50 PM
Quote from: pins on August 27, 2012, 07:59:11 AM
my advice. is roulette can not be beaten. if you just want to play for fun.ok.  but if you think you can make your fortune. it can not be done. do not buy any system. who would sell a winning system. . I am sure all the winners will attack this statement. there is no way to forecast what the next spin will be.

Willy Wonka Talking to pins! (nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ#)
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: psiho2209 on August 27, 2012, 04:33:26 PM
Quote from: pins on August 27, 2012, 07:59:11 AM
my advice. is roulette can not be beaten. if you just want to play for fun.ok.  but if you think you can make your fortune. it can not be done. do not buy any system. who would sell a winning system. . I am sure all the winners will attack this statement. there is no way to forecast what the next spin will be.

This is very wrong. It all depends how hard actualy you want to succeed... Simple as that.  :yes:


Cheers

Drazen



Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: Nathan Detroit on August 27, 2012, 05:35:19 PM
Pins knows his onions  when it pertains to roulette.

N.D.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: MiniBaccarat on August 27, 2012, 06:45:14 PM
G'day,

Quote from: Nathan Detroit on August 27, 2012, 05:35:19 PM
Pins knows his onions  when it pertains to roulette. N.D.

You could also use the words, Crackers, Nuts, Bananas, F.O.S..

Glenn.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: crackers on August 27, 2012, 06:54:18 PM
Quote from: pins on August 27, 2012, 07:59:11 AM
... there is no way to forecast what the next spin will be.

You DON'T need to see into the future to beat games of chance. You just have to quit while you are ahead. You also must avoid starting out in a hole. If you are in a hole, stop digging. If you reach a reasonable goal then get up and take it. If you can't do these simple things then do what pins suggest, don't even try.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: Nathan Detroit on August 27, 2012, 06:56:54 PM
This  honor was   bestowed upon me recently so I thought I shall pass it on  in  the same  spirit as it was given to me.

N.D.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: Nathan Detroit on August 27, 2012, 07:02:10 PM
I  would  interpret Cracker`s   post  as " Wins  OVER  Jackpot".

N.D.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: pins on August 28, 2012, 03:27:29 AM
play only the even money chances. if you can not win playing them what chance have you got.
greed . thats how people lose at roulette.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: wento on August 28, 2012, 04:12:40 AM
Back on topic for a min... Have you downloaded the free version of extreme roulette? It is pretty cool showing you bank roll history and graphs on everything. Check it out if you already havent
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: klw on August 29, 2012, 06:19:34 AM
Hi Wento -- Thanks for the back on topic reply.I was aware of it but haven't done yet. Will be doing it very shortly. Many thanks.


klw
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: Proofreaders2K on August 31, 2012, 12:57:08 AM
Hello klw welcome  :thumbsup:

Roulette isn't that hard to learn.  Three points I want to touch on.

1) Set Win-Targets & Stop-Losses for your bankroll (+20%/-20% of your original bankroll imo is a guideline for reference.)

2) Sufficient Bankroll--This is what snags most gamblers imo.  Three-hundred units per $1 base betting unit, Six-hundred per $2 base betting unit...

3) Remember the trend is your friend.

Take for example the last seven spin values.  If most of them are red, then in all likelyhood the red trend will continue.
Same with inside betting.  If a number repeats within say 12 spins, there's a good chance it will repeat within the next 12 spins.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: klw on August 31, 2012, 04:46:11 AM
Hi Proofreaders2k -- Thanks for the reply and interesting it is.I'm newish to roulette but not betting as I've traded the stock markets ( namely oil ) for years and a everything you've wriiten transposes itself over to roulette, however " the trend is your friend " whilst that is a must for us market traders why is it for roulette when it is a game of chance after all ? Now I'm not saying what you have typed is not true but the subject really intrigues me,it has been my biggest puzzle to solve since I first started looking at roulette ; do I go for the numbers that haven't appeared yet or do I go for the those that have.My first thoughts were to go for those that haven't appeared but I am now leaning the other way and what you have said endorses that,it's really got me thinking.Many thanks for that.

Cheers,

klw.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: Proofreaders2K on August 31, 2012, 09:29:47 AM
I played the stock market before coming to gambling games.  Hairline difference.
There are those stocks that are favorites in a sector and get the most variance versus those that hardly move at all.

With roulette each dealer has his/her favorite secton of the wheel (you have to observe closely).  Of that section two or three numbers will hit the most--it's just a matter of finding them before the dealer change.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: klw on August 31, 2012, 10:08:09 AM
Interesting , I'll keep an eye out for that as well.

Many thanks ,


klw
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: crackers on August 31, 2012, 12:51:56 PM
Quote from: Proofreaders2K on August 31, 2012, 09:29:47 AM
With roulette each dealer has his/her favorite secton of the wheel (you have to observe closely).  Of that section two or three numbers will hit the most--it's just a matter of finding them before the dealer change.

This is nothing more than "magical thinking." It's a common pitfall of inexperienced
gamblers. I have no plans on discussing this. It's just flat out wrong. When someone
falls for their own conclusions, based on incorrect assumptions, then they waste time
and possible treasure going in the wrong direction. Study randomness as it regards to
patterns, singles, sleeping groupings, and global effects that act like over all trends. Also
watch the trend for bet selection effectiveness. That's the only trend that matters in the
end.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: insidebet on August 31, 2012, 02:15:01 PM
Roulette and stock markets have absolutely nothing in common.  Uderpinning everymove in all different markets are fundamentals reasons and so called "fear and greed" of investors.  There are absolutely no fundamental reasons why a number should appear at any given time, and, trust me on that one, casinos have no fear whatsoever!  Maybe a little greed...

Insider
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: Proofreaders2K on August 31, 2012, 03:04:28 PM
Crackers, Insidebet you have no idea how much I've made in the stock market much less Roulette.  (I smell casino agents!)
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: crackers on August 31, 2012, 03:11:19 PM
Quote from: Proofreaders2K on August 31, 2012, 03:04:28 PM
Crackers, Insidebet you have no idea how much I've made in the stock market much less Roulette.  (I smell casino agents!)

I still don't give a rat's ass. When did I ever?
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: Proofreaders2K on August 31, 2012, 03:29:40 PM
Ahem...

Quote from: insidebet  on August 31, 2012, 02:15:01 PM
Roulette and stock markets have absolutely nothing in common.  Uderpinning everymove in all different markets are fundamentals reasons and so called "fear and greed" of investors.  There are absolutely no fundamental reasons why a number should appear at any given time, and, trust me on that one, casinos have no fear whatsoever!  Maybe a little greed...

Insider

Ok, here is a short analogy.  Reports show the telephone sector is hot (Outside bet) so you can bet the index (or a mutual fund heavy in that sector....
OR
You can find the largest undervalued stock in that sector (inside bet) say AT&T and bet moderate/heavy on it.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: insidebet on August 31, 2012, 03:51:15 PM
Makes perfect sense in markets.  None at all in roulette.  I rest my case.
Insider
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: Proofreaders2K on August 31, 2012, 04:33:39 PM
Sorry about all of this klw.  If you need me send a personal message.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: crackers on August 31, 2012, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: Proofreaders2K on August 31, 2012, 04:33:39 PM
Sorry about all of this klw.  If you need me send a personal message.

Klw, you are here to learn. I don't recommend taking advice from anyone
that attributes meaning for spin results from an almost fool proof random
generator such as the modern Roulette wheel. People do this because they can't
relate to the normal flow of random events. So they grasp at superstitious
cause and effect beliefs. They do this because they have yet to do the hard
work ahead of them. But that does not stop them from attempting to
recruit like minded others. In research this is referred to as confirmation bias.
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: Proofreaders2K on September 01, 2012, 01:33:38 AM
Moderators could you stop this minstrel show please??
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: cheEsteban on September 08, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
Hi, i am also starting (after a long time not playing) and i find dublinbet quite good so far.... i do not quite trust RNG though,....
Title: Re: Just getting started
Post by: qayotee on September 12, 2012, 05:31:13 PM
A nice strategy to play if you are starting is "Quad Double Single" which is a fun strategy with nice odds and the chance to win big